Manchester United Season 2008/2009

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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby Bully » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:54 am

devilsadvocate wrote:Man U haven't beaten Spurs in open play this year.
Spurs absolutely battered Newcastle, just didn't quite have the final product to show it on the scoreboard. 1-0 still gets you 3 points though!
Spurs are the form side in the come since Feb. We've taken 19 of a possible 24 points in our last 6, with only a 10 minute slip up against Bastards after one of the most atrocious refereeing decisions you'll see this year.

IMO, Fergie will be more than a touch concerned about playing Spurs at Old Toilet this week. A slip here and the pressure is all on them in the title race. Spurs defence is rock solid at the moment and with Jermaine Defoe back in action, Utd's current frailties at the back could be exposed.

Personally, I can't wait. It's going to be a ripper and I honestly feel we'll at least get a point out of it.



as i said before the only time i want the spuds to win anything is against that team from OT. Hope you can stick it up fergie and his men!! Watched the highlights of when they lost to Everton in FA cup on weekend, as i dont have Setanta :( , god fergie wasnt to happy when he didnt get his usual penalty every game. sucked in to them. Im happy in a way, well not that we lost to chelsea, but happier that its not man united in the final of something for a change.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:15 am

Man USA fans HATE Berbatov:

http://www.redcafe.net/f6/official-d...thread-244605/

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is this how our in-house Utd fans feel?

The funny thing is with most of those rants, they go on about him being lazy etc. WTF did they expect. They should have known from watching him for 2 seasons at Spurs that he's a lazy, moody wanker who doesn't care about the team or the fans. He produces moments of absolute genius, but the rest of the team he's a useless sack of cowdung.

The funniest thing is that 90% of Spurs fans now wouldn't have him back, simply because his attitude and behaviour was a detriment to the team.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby BALLHOG » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:16 am

3 Pts to Man U 2-0 winners over Pompey. Well done to Scholes on his 600th appearance what a star he has been over the years. After they knock Spurs off on the weekend they will pretty much have the title in the bag. Hope they destroy the Spurs and big Arry. Fantastic to see Giggs turning back the clock as he has done for most of the season. :twisted:
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby Tooting Bec » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:33 am

Should be a ripper game at old trafford this weekend. two form teams of the competition. Only a tottenham win will keep the rest of the competition in with a sniff!
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby BALLHOG » Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:48 am

Tooting Bec wrote:Should be a ripper game at old trafford this weekend. two form teams of the competition. Only a tottenham win will keep the rest of the competition in with a sniff!


I would say Tottenham have been in the better form for the last few weeks. Even against Pompey Man U didn't look convincing. But am very confident that will change this weekend against your mob Tooting.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:53 am

Man USA's latest signing:

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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby RoosterMarty » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:12 pm

Give it a rest mate. If you think he handed us 3 points you are joking, it was 5... yes 5 goals to 2 in the end and you should have been down to 10 men about 10 minutes into the contest.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby johntheclaret » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:07 am

Sorry marty but that penalty was a shocker and competely changed the game

Everyone knows it including you I bet. Even the tv pundis were chomping on it changing the game.
Spuds were two up and playing the better footy. United needed something to spark them into life and the red duly obliged. The penalty had the complete opposite effect on spurs and as arry said in the post match interval, spurs lost their heads. Like he also said though, they are professionals and should have jut got on with it.

Professionl or not, it's easier said than done when the ref has just given you a kick in the bollocks. Incidentally the red apologised to spurs after the game. Well durr lot of help that was. But no don't spurs will feel much better for hearing it ( not )
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:51 am

RoosterMarty wrote:Give it a rest mate. If you think he handed us 3 points you are joking, it was 5... yes 5 goals to 2 in the end and you should have been down to 10 men about 10 minutes into the contest.


You're kidding right? It was NOT a penalty. Even Fergie the red nosed twat himself said it was a terrible decision:

Courtesy of Sky Sports:

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted his side were 'a bit fortunate' as they overcame Tottenham Hotspur on Saturday.

The Red Devils looked to be staring defeat in the face when Spurs took a two-goal lead at Old Trafford.

But referee Howard Webb's decision to award a debatable penalty handed United the momentum and they went on to record a remarkable comeback, winning the match 5-2.

"We were a bit fortunate but football is a funny game," said Ferguson. "You get terrible decisions. We got one last week. You have to deal with them and get on with it."


Maybe you need to watch the game again and realise that when you are dominating like that and some cock with a whislte rips your heart out, momentum changes. Yes it was 5 goals, but after such an injustice, you'd be pissed off too as a player.

I acknowledged that we played badly after the decision. Maybe you should open your eyes and see that Utd were gifted a win due to Webb's disgraceful behaviour. Man Utd are a blight on world football the way they carry on.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby hazza11 » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:21 am

devilsadvocate wrote:
RoosterMarty wrote:Give it a rest mate. If you think he handed us 3 points you are joking, it was 5... yes 5 goals to 2 in the end and you should have been down to 10 men about 10 minutes into the contest.


You're kidding right? It was NOT a penalty. Even Fergie the red nosed twat himself said it was a terrible decision:

Courtesy of Sky Sports:

Manchester United boss Sir Alex Ferguson admitted his side were 'a bit fortunate' as they overcame Tottenham Hotspur on Saturday.

The Red Devils looked to be staring defeat in the face when Spurs took a two-goal lead at Old Trafford.

But referee Howard Webb's decision to award a debatable penalty handed United the momentum and they went on to record a remarkable comeback, winning the match 5-2.

"We were a bit fortunate but football is a funny game," said Ferguson. "You get terrible decisions. We got one last week. You have to deal with them and get on with it."


Maybe you need to watch the game again and realise that when you are dominating like that and some cock with a whislte rips your heart out, momentum changes. Yes it was 5 goals, but after such an injustice, you'd be pissed off too as a player.

I acknowledged that we played badly after the decision. Maybe you should open your eyes and see that Utd were gifted a win due to Webb's disgraceful behaviour. Man Utd are a blight on world football the way they carry on.

Couldn't agree with you more! Terrible decision. Also in the first half I believe the 2 yellow cards given out to
Tottenham players were a joke! Soft. Ronaldo early in the 2nd half hacks a player from behind nowehere near the ball
and gets a way with it. United always get the better off referee decisions especially at home!
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:08 am

hazza11 wrote:United always get the better off referee decisions especially at home!


Yep and therin lies the problem. The longer the FA lets it continue, the worse it will become. It's almost unbearable as it is at the moment.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby johntheclaret » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:38 am

Thing is DA, it is not just Man U. Chelski, Liverpool and Arsenal all get the decisions.

Agree though that Man U currently think they are bigger thena football itself, mostly fuelled by Fergusson. Although I remeber the 70's and 80's when Liverpool got all the calls.

Thinking about it, psychologically the ref's are almost pre-programmed into giving the top sides the free's and penalties, in the way that SANFL teams who are 1st to the ball usually get the decisions. They are automatically assuming that the "top" players were fouled. The problem is that EPL players are mostly cheats, particularly the top Europeans like Ronaldo etc.

You want to try watching a lower league side play an EPL side in a cup game. Some of the decisions that go against the underdogs are a disgrace.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby BALLHOG » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:55 am

You need to move on DA still a massive turn around from being 2 nil down. At the level they play at Spurs should have been more proffesional and got on with the job at hand. It's like any sport you take the good with the bad even though Man U seem to have most of the good.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby RoosterMarty » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:03 am

I never said it was a penalty... also Palacios' dirty tackle went unpunished and that could have changed the game too.

Spurs wanted to shut up shop in the second half and that is suicide at Old Trafford. In the first half they attacked and put United under pressure but they were happy to sit back for the second half. That was pretty stupid and United were dominating the second half up until the penalty. I still think we would have won if the penalty hadn't been given, I mean 5 goals.. that is a lot in a second half. Gomes proved what a clown he can be, brilliant first half... absolutely abysmal second half.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby Bully » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:47 pm

lets see i bet if the shoe had have been on the other foot AGAINST man united then the talk would have been different on here.

Felt sorry for you DA was really hoping you beat that team but wasnt to be. Lets hope the gunners can make up for it on wednesday. Not counting my chickens as will be a good test for us against them.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:00 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:Spurs wanted to shut up shop in the second half and that is suicide at Old Trafford. In the first half they attacked and put United under pressure but they were happy to sit back for the second half. That was pretty stupid and United were dominating the second half up until the penalty.


Spurs came out with the same attacking mentality in the second half. The difference was that Fergie introduced Tevez, who hassled and hurried our midfielders. Spurs definitely weren't sitting back until the penalty was given. After the penalty though, we were a complete rabble.

RoosterMarty wrote:I still think we would have won if the penalty hadn't been given, I mean 5 goals.. that is a lot in a second half.


I totally disagree as does almost all of the football world. Spurs were all over Utd like a rash until the Penalty. Even big red nose himself said the penalty was the catalyst for Utd turning it around. Take back the pen and Utd would have got a point at best.

RoosterMarty wrote:Gomes proved what a clown he can be, brilliant first half... absolutely abysmal second half.


How did he prove he's a clown? Yes the Rooney goal was bad positioning and loss of concentration, but he was probably stil fuming at the injustice of Webb the Wanker. Gomes is one of the few that could walk off the pitch with his head held high that he truly put in 100% after the pen.

If you want to call a Spurs player abysmal, take a look at the way Corluka defended in the 2nd half. I don't blame him though, as Utd had 12 players on the pitch.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:02 pm

Bulldog wrote:lets see i bet if the shoe had have been on the other foot AGAINST man united then the talk would have been different on here.

Felt sorry for you DA was really hoping you beat that team but wasnt to be. Lets hope the gunners can make up for it on wednesday. Not counting my chickens as will be a good test for us against them.


It pains me to say, but I actually want the Goons to do Utd in the Champions League I'm that angry after the weekend.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby RoosterMarty » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:21 pm

He could have done better for Rooney's second even though the defending didn't help, Rooney was wide open... Ronaldo was also open when he nodded home the 3rd... the effort on Berbatov for the 5th was comical at best.

Also here is Palacios' tackle. Tell me he shouldn't have been shown a straight red. That could have changed the game well before Spurs even got going.

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Disgusting tackle and action should be taken against him.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby devilsadvocate » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:38 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:Disgusting tackle and action should be taken against him.


Seriously, you are a hypocrite. You highlight 1 moment, which I've already acknowledged in another thread was a bad tackle.

Take a look in your own back yard before pulling up shite like this.

Vidic hacked Bent in the first half. the result - **** all.
Woodgate and Jenas were both shown yellows for NOTHING. NOTHING.....
Scoles was worthy of a yellow in the 2nd half too, but nothing.

Then there's last year at the Lane - Ronaldo kicked at Dawson while he was on the ground and what happened....NOTHING.

Utd are a ******* disgrace.
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Re: Manchester United Season 2008/2009

Postby RoosterMarty » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:02 pm

Yeah and? I'm sure Spurs have received penalties over the years that weren't there...

The reason I highlight that is because everybody is going on about the penalty yet ignoring the red card non-decision. That could have changed the game completely, and also ruined Ronaldo's career.

I know you are upset that your club bent over and gave up 5 goals but it is not the ref's fault, he made two bad decisions which went both ways... blaming the ref is just a cop out. I mean 5 goals in a single half is pretty poor.
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