With Nigel taking over at Derby, following in the footsteps of "ol big ead" I thought it would be "appropriate" to post a top ten fottballing father and sons.
Brian and Nigel Clough
The late Brian Clough remains a legend. As a player, he was a prolific goalscorer for his hometown club Middlesbrough and also North East rivals Sunderland. As a manager, he was eulogised. Controversial, yet absorbingly charismatic, he enjoyed terrific success. His achievement of lifting back-to-back European Cups with Nottingham Forest was a remarkable feat. His son, Nigel, graced Forest during his playing days, also proving lethal in front of goal. He had spells at Liverpool and Manchester City before taking up a player-manager role at Burton Albion. He spent 11 years at Pirelli Stadium, lifting the side to the Blue Square Premier and also famously holding Manchester United in the FA Cup. Nigel recently took over at Championship club Derby County.
Cesare and Paolo Maldini
Cesare Maldini was an uncompromising centre-half. The Italian played out the majority of his career at AC Milan, tallying over 300 appearances. He represented his country at the 1962 and 1966 World Cups. The former defender coached the Italian Under 21 side for 10 years before he was appointed manager of the senior side. Cesare, who has also coached Paraguay, led Italy to the 1998 World Cup, with the team captained by his son, Paolo, at the time. Paolo has spent the whole of his career at AC Milan. He is also the most capped player for the Italian national team with 126 appearances. Paolo, whose son Christian currently plays for Milan's youth side, has had outstanding success at Stadio Giuseppe Meazza. He has lifted seven Serie A titles and also captained Milan to European Cup glory in 2003, 40 years after his father had achieved the same feat.
Harry and Jamie Redknapp
The much-travelled Harry Redknapp began his playing career at West Ham United and made 149 top flight appearances for the Hammers. He then moved to South Coast side Bournemouth. Harry went on to coach the Cherries in 1983, and spent nine years in charge before heading back to his beloved West Ham, where he helped bring through a number of talented Englishman, including his nephew Frank Lampard. Harry then managed Portsmouth, before moving to bitter rivals Southampton and then making a shock return to Fratton Park. He lifted the FA Cup with Pompey in 2008 and has since taken over at Tottenham Hotspur. Jamie, meanwhile, has yet to venture into management following a successful playing career at Liverpool. The former England international also spent time at Bournemouth, Tottenham and Southampton and is now a television pundit for Sky Sports.
Peter and Kasper Schmeichel
One of the world's greatest goalkeepers, Peter Schmeichel was an imposing figure between the sticks. The 6ft 4in Dane made his name at Manchester United, where he recorded 292 appearances. Amongst his many, many highlights, Peter lifted five Premier League titles and also captained the side during their 1999 UEFA Champions League success. His son, Kasper, is currently 22-years-old and is also a shot-stopper. In 2002, Kasper signed a long-term contract with Manchester City - his father's final club before retirement. The young keeper has struggled to make an impact at Eastlands, and has spent much of his short career on loan away from the club. Kasper has demonstrated glimpses of his father's ability, but has a long way to go if he is to mirror Peter's marvellous time as a player.
Johan and Jordi Cruyff
Johan Cruyff was a glorious footballer. The Dutchman enjoyed superb success, beginning his career at Ajax, where he was classy and composed in front of goal. A switch to Barcelona soon beckoned, while he shone on the international stage. Embodied by 'Total Football', Johan was named European Footballer of the Year on three occasions. Johan, remembered for his brilliant 'Cruyff turn' also enjoyed impressive success as a manager, thriving in charge of Ajax and then Barcelona. His son, Jordi, started out at Barcelona, and Johan handed him his Primera Division debut in 1994. Jordi signed for Manchester United in 1996 and, while he shone in flashes, his time at Old Trafford was disrupted by injury. Jordi's final club was Metalurh Donetsk. On the international stage, Jordi played for both the Catalan XI and the Netherlands.
Alex and Darren Ferguson
Sir Alex Ferguson is arguably one of the best managers in the history of world football. The fiery Scot, who was a striker during his playing days, represented a number of clubs, including Rangers, Dunfermline Athletic and Falkirk. His first coaching job came at East Stirlingshire before he headed to St Mirren and then Aberdeen, where he won several trophies. He took over at Manchester United in 1986, although the early stages of his tenure saw him come under weighty pressure. But a decisive FA Cup triumph over Forest proved a turning point. His unbelievable glory at United, including two Champions League trophies merely scratches the surface of his success. Darren Ferguson has much to live up to. Darren started out at United and his father handed him his debut in 1990. He later transferred to Wolves and then Wrexham. He landed his first managerial post in 2007 at Peterborough United. In his first full season at the helm he guided the club to promotion to League One.
Frank and Frank Lampard
Frank Lampard senior is hailed as a West Ham legend. The gifted left-back tallied over 500 appearances for the Hammers, while he lifted two FA Cup trophies. He managed two England caps and also had a spell at Southend United before announcing his retirement in 1986. From 1994 to 2001 he returned to West Ham to serve as assistant manager under his brother-in-law, Harry Redknapp. Frank Lampard senior is currently a football consultant to Watford manager Brendan Rodgers. Frank Lampard junior is a sharp-shooting midfielder for Chelsea. He also started at West Ham and spent seven years at Upton Park. In 2001 he signed for Chelsea for a fee of £11million. He has proved a superb success at Stamford Bridge and is the club's highest scoring midfielder. He has claimed two Premier League titles with the Blues, and also an FA Cup trophy. Lampard is a regular international for England.
Kenny and Paul Dalglish
An outstanding player and manager, Kenny Dalglish claimed glory on and off the field. Kenny was a prolific goalscorer, netting over 100 goals in both the English and Scottish leagues. He averaged an impressive goal ever 1.6 games for Celtic. After his time with the Hoops, he moved to Liverpool for a then record £440,000 transfer fee. Dalglish shone at Anfield, lifting numerous trophies. The former Scotland international then became player-manager of the club and guided them to their first ever 'double'. Kenny then famously usurped Manchester United in the race for the Premier League title while at Blackburn, and also enjoyed a period in charge of Newcastle. Paul Dalglish was signed by his father for the Magpies. Paul has played for several clubs, with his most recent, Kilmarnock, proving to be his final side before retirement.
Steve and Alex Bruce
Steve Bruce was turned down by a number of clubs, including Newcastle United, Sunderland, Derby County and Southport, before he was handed the break he desired. Gillingham offered him an apprenticeship, and he went on to play more than 200 games for the club before joining Norwich City in 1984. In 1987, he signed for Manchester United, with whom he achieved great success, winning the Premier League, the FA Cup and the League Cup. The former defender captained the Red Devils to a 'double' but was never selected to play for England. Steve began his managerial career with Sheffield United, and spent short periods of time managing Huddersfield Town, Wigan Athletic and Crystal Palace before joining Birmingham City in 2001. He twice led Birmingham to promotion to the Premier League during his tenure of nearly six years, but resigned in 2007 to begin a second spell as manager of Wigan. His son, Alex, plays for Ipswich Town. The Republic of Ireland international previously played under his father's management at Birmingham City, but left the club in 2006, in part due to accusations of nepotism levelled at his father. The 24-year-old has 11 Championship appearances for Ipswich so far this season.
Miguel and Jose Reina
Goalkeeper Miguel Reina played for Cordoba CF, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid, and also recorded five caps for Spain. He reached the European Cup in 1974, but his side, Atletico, drew their first meeting with Bayern Munich and ultimately lost the rematch. His son, Jose, followed in his father's footsteps by becoming a top shot-stopper. Jose began his career with Barca and then signed for Villarreal. Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez swooped for Reina in 2005, with the Spanish tactician labelling his compatriot as 'the best goalkeeper in Spain'. Jose has since landed the Premier League's Golden Glove award three times, while also breaking the Reds' consecutive clean sheet record with 11 successive stop-outs between October and December 2005. Jose has lifted the FA Cup with Liverpool, while he is renowned for his ability to deny from spot-kicks.
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Re: Top Tens
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:18 pm
Now that the January window is closed shut, I thought it would be a good time to look back at some of the more dubius purchases that have taken place of the years.
so here is the "How much !!!!"list
or
(as they are techincally known as) "What a waste of money"
Jean-Alain Boumsong - Rangers to Newcastle (£8m) 2005
If ever there was doubt that the French and Scottish top-flights might, perhaps, not always be as strong as the English Premier League, Boumsong provides proof.
The Cameroon-born centre-back arrived at St James' Park with a strong reputation as impressive spells at Auxerre and Rangers caught the eye of Graeme Souness.
Boumsong, a France international, earned a five-and-a-half-year contract on Tyneside, but lasted only 19 months and 47 games.
Newcastle quickly sold to Juventus - who were then in Serie B - for a hit of around £5m and the Italians cunningly agreed added payments to the Magpies based upon performances, was anyone on the Toon holding their breath?
Boumsong made 33 appearances for Juventus and has now returned to France with champions Lyon.
Fernando Morientes - Real Madrid to Liverpool (£6.3m) 2005
Liverpool chief Rafa Benitez has a far from polished record in the winter transfer window, let us not forget Mauricio Pellegrino and Jan Kromkamp. However, Morientes is the leading offender.
The former Real Madrid star pitched up to a wave of excitement on Merseyside, hailed as one of the best strikers in the world and the man to fire the Reds onwards and upwards.
A UEFA Champions League trophy made its way to Anfield at the end of the 2004/05 season but, interestingly, Morientes was cup tied in the competition.
While another Spanish Fernando, Torres, has since proved a smash hit in England, Morientes lacked the pace and fitness to prove a success.
A return of eight goals in 32 league outings failed to justify an outlay of £6.3m and Benitez cut his loses and sold Morientes to Valencia for £3m in May 2006.
Afonso Alves - Heerenveen to Middlesbrough (£12m) 2008
Benitez's record in the mid-season market may need a little polish, but Middlesbrough's requires an entire aerosol of Mr Sheen.
Selecting the rogue from a batch of poor value signings at The Riverside is a difficult task. Dong Gook-Lee, Michael Ricketts and Malcolm Christie (both signed on deadline day in 2003 *insert a diplomatic pause*) all deserve dishonourable mention, but Alves is the most dubious.
An £12m arrival from Heerenveen was always going to be a massive gamble, but when the Brazilian striker was unveiled to an over-the-top warm welcome, concerns increased.
Manager Gareth Southgate and Alves sandwiched between two Samba girls, who had apparently ransacked Dame Edna Everage's wardrobe, offered a perfect reason never to hold a stag do on Teesside, and things have not improved.
At the time of writing, the man from Belo Horizonte has netted 10 goals in 25 league games and has blazed chance after chance. A return of 1.2 goals per £1m is not the exactly the sale of the century.
Georgios Samaras - Heerenveen to Manchester City (£6m) 2006
An unlikely event, but if you are ever approached by a door-to-door salesperson from Heerenveen, tread with caution. The Dutch city appears to breed top-notch negotiators.
Two years prior to selling Alves to Middlesbrough, Heerenveen flogged up-and-coming striker Samaras to Manchester City for £6m (a tidy overall profit of £18m for both players).
The Greece international had looked a star in Holland and was seen as an investment by then City manager Stuart Pearce, but the youngster never lived up to his billing.
Samaras now finds himself at Celtic after a loan switch was made permanent in 2008 following a return of eight goals in 55 games in England.
Scott Parker - Charlton to Chelsea (£10m) 2004
On paper, Parker's move to Chelsea - who also have Jiri Jarosik on their list of January offences - appeared excellent, but the move was a not a success for either party.
The midfielder was a star at Charlton and pivotal in a hard-working and efficient side, understandably attracting attention from Stamford Bridge and wealthy owner Roman Abramovich.
But having captured their man, the Blues - as if hiding a pair of expensive shoes, which had looked sharp in the shop but failed to fit and only resulted in blisters, under the bed - cast Parker aside.
Eight league starts in 15 months before a move to Newcastle was not Parker's fault and only really benefited a Charlton side who found themselves £10m better off.
Tomasz Frankowski - Elche to Wolves (£1.4m) 2006
Frankowski arrived at Wolves from Spanish outfit Elche for a not-at-all-hefty fee, but every penny counts.
The Poland international was a hero for his country in their journey to the finals of the 2006 World Cup, and scored against England at Old Trafford in the qualifying campaign. Wolves, therefore, gladly took a low-price punt.
Frankowski, though, did not even justify a price tag of £1.4m, earning the nickname 'the Pole with no goal' as he failed to hit the back of the net in his time at Molineux.
To make matters worse for the striker, his dip in form saw a slip from hero to zero at international level and cost him a place in Poland's 2006 World Cup finals squad.
After a loan move to Tenerife and a nasty injury, Frankowski's Wolves contract was terminated by mutual consent in August 2007.
Hossam Ghaly - Feyenoord to Tottenham (Undisclosed) 2006
The Egyptian midfielder enjoyed a bright opening to his time at Tottenham following a switch from Feyenoord for fee which remains a mystery.
But things soon plummeted for Ghaly at White Hart Lane, where Andy Reid has also proved a disappointing January arrival in seasons gone by.
Having arrived in north London in October last year, current Spurs boss Harry Redknapp pleaded with fans to give Ghaly a second chance after the player angered boo-boys in May 2007 by throwing his shirt to the ground when substituted.
There was, however, to be no reprieve for the player, who was to never feature for Tottenham again after a loan stint at Derby was followed by a recent move to Saudi Arabian outfit Al-Nasr.
Aleksandar Rodic - NK Gorcia to Portsmouth (Undisclosed) 2005
Like adventurous souls who have handed over only a few pence for those unlabeled cans on the reduced to clear shelf in the supermarket recognise, an undisclosed fee for a far-from-famous player tends to be a bit of a worry.
So it proved for Portsmouth four years ago. Rodic was an idol in Slovenia, but the international forward failed to make an impact at Fratton Park.
Redknapp, then in charge on the south coast, did not find the former Nk Gorcia player a reliable selection and moved the player on to pastures new after a mere three appearances and no goals.
Yaniv Katan - Maccabi Haifa to West Ham (£100,000) 2006
A far from expensive purchase for the Hammers three years ago, but Katan still managed to appear overpriced.
As anyone who has 'umm-ed' and 'ah-ed' over which DVD to rent on a Friday night before plumping for any comedy starring Adam Sandler knows, no matter how good the deal, sometimes it is better to keep your hands in your pockets.
The pacey Israel forward penned a four-year deal at West Ham, but stayed for just six months.
Katan made eight appearances, six coming from the bench, for the Upton Park outfit before a loan return to Maccabi Haifa was made permanent.
Marlon King - Watford to Wigan (£4m) 2008
King was a crucial player in Watford's Championship play-off winning campaign in 2005/06, but the powerful striker missed the majority of the following, forgettable, Premier League season due to a serious knee injury.
Wigan boss Steve Bruce, however, remained convinced regarding the Jamaica international's ability and handed the Hornets £4m last year.
King, though, did not produce the goods and was sent to Hull City on loan at the beginning of 2008/09 following one goal in 15 league starts.
Tigers boss Phil Brown has been equally unimpressed following reports of a bust-up with the 28-year-old and he has now been loaned to ever-reliable January wheeler dealers Middlesbrough.
Don't you just love the "Undisclosed" price tag. Could it be that clubs are embarrassed by the fee and prefer not to tell the fans. Hmmmmm. Still, it doesn't stop a player being over priced, what ver that price might be
so here is the "How much !!!!"list
or
(as they are techincally known as) "What a waste of money"
Jean-Alain Boumsong - Rangers to Newcastle (£8m) 2005
If ever there was doubt that the French and Scottish top-flights might, perhaps, not always be as strong as the English Premier League, Boumsong provides proof.
The Cameroon-born centre-back arrived at St James' Park with a strong reputation as impressive spells at Auxerre and Rangers caught the eye of Graeme Souness.
Boumsong, a France international, earned a five-and-a-half-year contract on Tyneside, but lasted only 19 months and 47 games.
Newcastle quickly sold to Juventus - who were then in Serie B - for a hit of around £5m and the Italians cunningly agreed added payments to the Magpies based upon performances, was anyone on the Toon holding their breath?
Boumsong made 33 appearances for Juventus and has now returned to France with champions Lyon.
Fernando Morientes - Real Madrid to Liverpool (£6.3m) 2005
Liverpool chief Rafa Benitez has a far from polished record in the winter transfer window, let us not forget Mauricio Pellegrino and Jan Kromkamp. However, Morientes is the leading offender.
The former Real Madrid star pitched up to a wave of excitement on Merseyside, hailed as one of the best strikers in the world and the man to fire the Reds onwards and upwards.
A UEFA Champions League trophy made its way to Anfield at the end of the 2004/05 season but, interestingly, Morientes was cup tied in the competition.
While another Spanish Fernando, Torres, has since proved a smash hit in England, Morientes lacked the pace and fitness to prove a success.
A return of eight goals in 32 league outings failed to justify an outlay of £6.3m and Benitez cut his loses and sold Morientes to Valencia for £3m in May 2006.
Afonso Alves - Heerenveen to Middlesbrough (£12m) 2008
Benitez's record in the mid-season market may need a little polish, but Middlesbrough's requires an entire aerosol of Mr Sheen.
Selecting the rogue from a batch of poor value signings at The Riverside is a difficult task. Dong Gook-Lee, Michael Ricketts and Malcolm Christie (both signed on deadline day in 2003 *insert a diplomatic pause*) all deserve dishonourable mention, but Alves is the most dubious.
An £12m arrival from Heerenveen was always going to be a massive gamble, but when the Brazilian striker was unveiled to an over-the-top warm welcome, concerns increased.
Manager Gareth Southgate and Alves sandwiched between two Samba girls, who had apparently ransacked Dame Edna Everage's wardrobe, offered a perfect reason never to hold a stag do on Teesside, and things have not improved.
At the time of writing, the man from Belo Horizonte has netted 10 goals in 25 league games and has blazed chance after chance. A return of 1.2 goals per £1m is not the exactly the sale of the century.
Georgios Samaras - Heerenveen to Manchester City (£6m) 2006
An unlikely event, but if you are ever approached by a door-to-door salesperson from Heerenveen, tread with caution. The Dutch city appears to breed top-notch negotiators.
Two years prior to selling Alves to Middlesbrough, Heerenveen flogged up-and-coming striker Samaras to Manchester City for £6m (a tidy overall profit of £18m for both players).
The Greece international had looked a star in Holland and was seen as an investment by then City manager Stuart Pearce, but the youngster never lived up to his billing.
Samaras now finds himself at Celtic after a loan switch was made permanent in 2008 following a return of eight goals in 55 games in England.
Scott Parker - Charlton to Chelsea (£10m) 2004
On paper, Parker's move to Chelsea - who also have Jiri Jarosik on their list of January offences - appeared excellent, but the move was a not a success for either party.
The midfielder was a star at Charlton and pivotal in a hard-working and efficient side, understandably attracting attention from Stamford Bridge and wealthy owner Roman Abramovich.
But having captured their man, the Blues - as if hiding a pair of expensive shoes, which had looked sharp in the shop but failed to fit and only resulted in blisters, under the bed - cast Parker aside.
Eight league starts in 15 months before a move to Newcastle was not Parker's fault and only really benefited a Charlton side who found themselves £10m better off.
Tomasz Frankowski - Elche to Wolves (£1.4m) 2006
Frankowski arrived at Wolves from Spanish outfit Elche for a not-at-all-hefty fee, but every penny counts.
The Poland international was a hero for his country in their journey to the finals of the 2006 World Cup, and scored against England at Old Trafford in the qualifying campaign. Wolves, therefore, gladly took a low-price punt.
Frankowski, though, did not even justify a price tag of £1.4m, earning the nickname 'the Pole with no goal' as he failed to hit the back of the net in his time at Molineux.
To make matters worse for the striker, his dip in form saw a slip from hero to zero at international level and cost him a place in Poland's 2006 World Cup finals squad.
After a loan move to Tenerife and a nasty injury, Frankowski's Wolves contract was terminated by mutual consent in August 2007.
Hossam Ghaly - Feyenoord to Tottenham (Undisclosed) 2006
The Egyptian midfielder enjoyed a bright opening to his time at Tottenham following a switch from Feyenoord for fee which remains a mystery.
But things soon plummeted for Ghaly at White Hart Lane, where Andy Reid has also proved a disappointing January arrival in seasons gone by.
Having arrived in north London in October last year, current Spurs boss Harry Redknapp pleaded with fans to give Ghaly a second chance after the player angered boo-boys in May 2007 by throwing his shirt to the ground when substituted.
There was, however, to be no reprieve for the player, who was to never feature for Tottenham again after a loan stint at Derby was followed by a recent move to Saudi Arabian outfit Al-Nasr.
Aleksandar Rodic - NK Gorcia to Portsmouth (Undisclosed) 2005
Like adventurous souls who have handed over only a few pence for those unlabeled cans on the reduced to clear shelf in the supermarket recognise, an undisclosed fee for a far-from-famous player tends to be a bit of a worry.
So it proved for Portsmouth four years ago. Rodic was an idol in Slovenia, but the international forward failed to make an impact at Fratton Park.
Redknapp, then in charge on the south coast, did not find the former Nk Gorcia player a reliable selection and moved the player on to pastures new after a mere three appearances and no goals.
Yaniv Katan - Maccabi Haifa to West Ham (£100,000) 2006
A far from expensive purchase for the Hammers three years ago, but Katan still managed to appear overpriced.
As anyone who has 'umm-ed' and 'ah-ed' over which DVD to rent on a Friday night before plumping for any comedy starring Adam Sandler knows, no matter how good the deal, sometimes it is better to keep your hands in your pockets.
The pacey Israel forward penned a four-year deal at West Ham, but stayed for just six months.
Katan made eight appearances, six coming from the bench, for the Upton Park outfit before a loan return to Maccabi Haifa was made permanent.
Marlon King - Watford to Wigan (£4m) 2008
King was a crucial player in Watford's Championship play-off winning campaign in 2005/06, but the powerful striker missed the majority of the following, forgettable, Premier League season due to a serious knee injury.
Wigan boss Steve Bruce, however, remained convinced regarding the Jamaica international's ability and handed the Hornets £4m last year.
King, though, did not produce the goods and was sent to Hull City on loan at the beginning of 2008/09 following one goal in 15 league starts.
Tigers boss Phil Brown has been equally unimpressed following reports of a bust-up with the 28-year-old and he has now been loaned to ever-reliable January wheeler dealers Middlesbrough.
Don't you just love the "Undisclosed" price tag. Could it be that clubs are embarrassed by the fee and prefer not to tell the fans. Hmmmmm. Still, it doesn't stop a player being over priced, what ver that price might be
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Re: Top Tens
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johntheclaret wrote:As anyone who has 'umm-ed' and 'ah-ed' over which DVD to rent on a Friday night before plumping for any comedy starring Adam Sandler knows, no matter how good the deal, sometimes it is better to keep your hands in your pockets.
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:03 am
Not particularly topical, but here is a Daily Mail "experts" poll on the top ten goal poachers
10. Andrew Cole (Arsenal, Fulham (loan), Bristol City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham, Manchester City, Portsmouth, Birmingham (loan), Sunderland, Burnley (loan), Nottingham Forest
9. Allan Clarke (Walsall, Fulham, Leicester, Leeds, Barnsley)
8. Alan Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)
7. Robbie Fowler (Liverpool, Leeds, Man City, Liverpool, Cardiff City, Blackburn)
6. Michael Owen (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle)
5. Denis Law (Huddersfield, Man City, Torino, Man United, Man City)
4. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Den Bosch, Heerenveen, PSV, Man United, Real Madrid)
3. Jimmy Greaves (Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
2. Ian Rush (Chester, Liverpool, Juventus, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield United (loan), Wrexham)
1. Gary Lineker (Leicester, Everton, Barcelona, Spurs, Nagoya Grampus Eight)
10. Andrew Cole (Arsenal, Fulham (loan), Bristol City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham, Manchester City, Portsmouth, Birmingham (loan), Sunderland, Burnley (loan), Nottingham Forest
9. Allan Clarke (Walsall, Fulham, Leicester, Leeds, Barnsley)
8. Alan Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)
7. Robbie Fowler (Liverpool, Leeds, Man City, Liverpool, Cardiff City, Blackburn)
6. Michael Owen (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle)
5. Denis Law (Huddersfield, Man City, Torino, Man United, Man City)
4. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Den Bosch, Heerenveen, PSV, Man United, Real Madrid)
3. Jimmy Greaves (Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
2. Ian Rush (Chester, Liverpool, Juventus, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield United (loan), Wrexham)
1. Gary Lineker (Leicester, Everton, Barcelona, Spurs, Nagoya Grampus Eight)
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:14 am
With the League Cup done and dusted and ading a bit more silverware to the United trophy cabinet it is fair to say that this years effort wasn't exactly a classic.
Why ? Probably because United wasn't playing the right team, and ex b4st4rd "Betnley" was feeling so guilty that it should have been a Utd v Claret final.
Anyway don't get me started on that, back to the topic at hand so here it is
Top Ten League Cup finals
or
2 f^%king minutes from history
1 - 1961: Aston Villa 3-2 Rotherham United (on agg).
The very first final took place at the start of the 1961-62 season after delays in the tournament, which was originally designed as a midweek affair to take advantage of the fact that most football grounds could now boast floodlights.
After claiming a 2-0 win in the first-leg, the minnows from Yorkshire looked on course for an upset, but it was not to be.
Villa came back to level matters and sent the game into extra time and the home fans were sent into raptures as Northern Ireland international Peter McParland fired home from Joe Mercer's cross.
2 - 1967: QPR 3-2 West Brom
The first ever League Cup final staged at Wembley meant the end of the two-legged finals.
It also made its mark as Queens Park Rangers of the third division - as it was - defeated West Brom 3-2 to deny The Baggies the chance to retain the trophy after they had beaten West Ham the year before.
Rangers, who were making their first appearance at Wembley, were 2-0 down at half-time as Clive Clark scored twice.
But the West London outfit battled back with Roger Morgan grabbing one back before the brilliant Rodney Marsh waltzed his way through a flurry of challenges before firing home the equaliser.
The winner came with just nine minutes left as Mark Lazarus pounced to the delight of the thousands of Rangers fans.
3 - 1972: Chelsea 0-1 Stoke
A huge upset in '72 saw Stoke City beat Chelsea in the final.
Chelsea came into the game having won the FA Cup and Uefa Cup winners' Cup in the previous two seasons - but Stoke were on a high after beating the mighty West Ham in the semi-finals and Gordon Banks inspired his team to victory in-front of nearly 100,000 fans.
The winner came late on as 35-year-old George Eastham fired home to give Stoke their first major honour in their history. Over a quarter of million people turned out on the streets of Stoke to welcome back their heroes to the City.
4 - 1978: Liverpool 0-1 Nottingham Forest (replay)
Nottingham Forest captured the trophy for the first time in a final which also marked Liverpool's first ever appearance in the Football League showpiece event. Both would go on to become two of the most successful teams in the competition's history.
Liverpool went into the game as European champions, against a Forest side who were on their way to claiming the league title later in the season.
Forest would go on to succeed Liverpool as European champions - so the tie was a mouthwatering prospect by anybody's standards, indeed it is arguably the most high-profile final ever seen.
Two footballing legends were at the respective helms in the shape of Brian Clough and Bob Paisley and it was the Forest boss who won out on this occasion.
The first game ended in a 0-0 draw at Wembley, which meant a replay at Old Trafford. There Forest claimed victory thanks to a penalty from John Robertson.
5 - 1984: Everton 0-1 Liverpool (replay)
This was the last of Liverpool's historic quartet of straight victories, a feat which has never been close to being matched.
Now the Milk Cup after the League Cup name was dropped, the game also marked the first ever local derby and the only one to this date as Everton set-up an all Merseyside affair.
It was the first meeting between the two rivals at Wembley, although the tie was decided away from London as the first match ended goalless which meant a replay at Manchester City's Maine Road.
The only goal was a special one as captain Graeme Souness fired home from long-range.
6 - 1988: Arsenal 2-3 Luton
This marked Luton's first major trophy. The previous years had seen the likes of Norwich and Oxford succeed in similar fashion, but Luton's victory was extra special as they overcame the mighty Arsenal.
The Littlewoods Cup triumph for The Hatters is remembered as one of the great finals.
Brian Stein gave the underdogs the lead, but goals from Martin Hayes and Alan Smith looked to have set up victory for George Graham's outfit.
Then Nigel Winterburn saw a penalty saved by Andy Dibble - this proved the turning point. Danny Wilson leveled matters with a scrambled effort before a late volley from Stein secured victory for Ray Harford's men.
7 - 1991: Man Utd 0-1 Sheffield Wednesday
Sheffield Wednesday had pulled of a major achievement by making the Rumbelows Cup final and their ambition for the season remained promotion to the top-flight - which they achieved.
The opponents were Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson's side were red hot favourites having won the FA Cup the year before and were well in contention for the Uefa Cup Winners Cup - which they went on to win.
But Ron Atkinson, against his former club, masterminded victory. The hero was John Sheridan as The Owls claimed a memorable win.
8 - 1997: Leicester 1-0 Middlesbrough (replay)
1997 was the first time in over ten years that one of the country's top teams had not made it to the final as Leicester City met Middlesbrough.
Boro were one of the country's top-footballing sides with millions spent on the likes of Juninho, Emerson and Fabrizio Ravanelli - but Martin O'Neill had created one of the toughest sides in the Premiership and it was the Foxes who were victorious.
The match at Wembley went to extra-time and Ravanelli looked to have grabbed the winner, but in the final minute Emile Heskey scored to take the game to a replay at Hillsborough.
The replay again went to extra-time - this time there was only one goal in it and it was Steve Claridge who scored to seal a memorable triumph for The Foxes.
Boro also went on to lose the FA Cup final, get relegated and also lose the League Cup final to Chelsea the following year.
9 - 2004: Bolton 1-2 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough - Boro suffered agony in the 1990s with two successive cup final defeats, but they finally ended their 128-year wait for a trophy in 2004.
They faced Sam Allardyce's Bolton in the final and it was a thrilling affair from first to last.
Indeed Boro had taken the lead within two minutes as Joseph Desire Job converted the fastest goal in League Cup final history, although that record lasted just 12 months when John Arne Riise scored for Liverpool in their defeat against Chelsea.
Just five minutes later Bolo Zenden's controversial penalty - replays showed he kicked the ball twice - doubled Boro's advantage.
Mark Schwarzer's blunder then gifted Kevin Davies a goal but Boro managed to hang-on and seal victory.
10 - 2007: Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea
The last final at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium was a pulsating and in the end controversial one as Chelsea claimed their third League Cup in nine-years.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger continued with his decision to field his youthful second-string side, which had played in every round.
Wenger's decision looked more than worthwhile as Theo Walcott fired them ahead, but Chelsea soon levelled when Didier Drogba struck.
The second half is when the match erupted. Chelsea skipper John Terry was accidentally kicked in the head by Abou Diaby and was rushed to hospital after being knocked unconscious.
This meant seven minutes of added time, but that was far from the finished strory as an additional five further minutes was needed as Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Adebayor and John Obi Mikel were all sent off following a mass fracas.
The 'Snarling' Cup final as it was later referred to, was seen as a less than fitting end to life at The Millennium Stadium which admirably hosted England's second showpiece event.
Why ? Probably because United wasn't playing the right team, and ex b4st4rd "Betnley" was feeling so guilty that it should have been a Utd v Claret final.
Anyway don't get me started on that, back to the topic at hand so here it is
Top Ten League Cup finals
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2 f^%king minutes from history
1 - 1961: Aston Villa 3-2 Rotherham United (on agg).
The very first final took place at the start of the 1961-62 season after delays in the tournament, which was originally designed as a midweek affair to take advantage of the fact that most football grounds could now boast floodlights.
After claiming a 2-0 win in the first-leg, the minnows from Yorkshire looked on course for an upset, but it was not to be.
Villa came back to level matters and sent the game into extra time and the home fans were sent into raptures as Northern Ireland international Peter McParland fired home from Joe Mercer's cross.
2 - 1967: QPR 3-2 West Brom
The first ever League Cup final staged at Wembley meant the end of the two-legged finals.
It also made its mark as Queens Park Rangers of the third division - as it was - defeated West Brom 3-2 to deny The Baggies the chance to retain the trophy after they had beaten West Ham the year before.
Rangers, who were making their first appearance at Wembley, were 2-0 down at half-time as Clive Clark scored twice.
But the West London outfit battled back with Roger Morgan grabbing one back before the brilliant Rodney Marsh waltzed his way through a flurry of challenges before firing home the equaliser.
The winner came with just nine minutes left as Mark Lazarus pounced to the delight of the thousands of Rangers fans.
3 - 1972: Chelsea 0-1 Stoke
A huge upset in '72 saw Stoke City beat Chelsea in the final.
Chelsea came into the game having won the FA Cup and Uefa Cup winners' Cup in the previous two seasons - but Stoke were on a high after beating the mighty West Ham in the semi-finals and Gordon Banks inspired his team to victory in-front of nearly 100,000 fans.
The winner came late on as 35-year-old George Eastham fired home to give Stoke their first major honour in their history. Over a quarter of million people turned out on the streets of Stoke to welcome back their heroes to the City.
4 - 1978: Liverpool 0-1 Nottingham Forest (replay)
Nottingham Forest captured the trophy for the first time in a final which also marked Liverpool's first ever appearance in the Football League showpiece event. Both would go on to become two of the most successful teams in the competition's history.
Liverpool went into the game as European champions, against a Forest side who were on their way to claiming the league title later in the season.
Forest would go on to succeed Liverpool as European champions - so the tie was a mouthwatering prospect by anybody's standards, indeed it is arguably the most high-profile final ever seen.
Two footballing legends were at the respective helms in the shape of Brian Clough and Bob Paisley and it was the Forest boss who won out on this occasion.
The first game ended in a 0-0 draw at Wembley, which meant a replay at Old Trafford. There Forest claimed victory thanks to a penalty from John Robertson.
5 - 1984: Everton 0-1 Liverpool (replay)
This was the last of Liverpool's historic quartet of straight victories, a feat which has never been close to being matched.
Now the Milk Cup after the League Cup name was dropped, the game also marked the first ever local derby and the only one to this date as Everton set-up an all Merseyside affair.
It was the first meeting between the two rivals at Wembley, although the tie was decided away from London as the first match ended goalless which meant a replay at Manchester City's Maine Road.
The only goal was a special one as captain Graeme Souness fired home from long-range.
6 - 1988: Arsenal 2-3 Luton
This marked Luton's first major trophy. The previous years had seen the likes of Norwich and Oxford succeed in similar fashion, but Luton's victory was extra special as they overcame the mighty Arsenal.
The Littlewoods Cup triumph for The Hatters is remembered as one of the great finals.
Brian Stein gave the underdogs the lead, but goals from Martin Hayes and Alan Smith looked to have set up victory for George Graham's outfit.
Then Nigel Winterburn saw a penalty saved by Andy Dibble - this proved the turning point. Danny Wilson leveled matters with a scrambled effort before a late volley from Stein secured victory for Ray Harford's men.
7 - 1991: Man Utd 0-1 Sheffield Wednesday
Sheffield Wednesday had pulled of a major achievement by making the Rumbelows Cup final and their ambition for the season remained promotion to the top-flight - which they achieved.
The opponents were Manchester United and Sir Alex Ferguson's side were red hot favourites having won the FA Cup the year before and were well in contention for the Uefa Cup Winners Cup - which they went on to win.
But Ron Atkinson, against his former club, masterminded victory. The hero was John Sheridan as The Owls claimed a memorable win.
8 - 1997: Leicester 1-0 Middlesbrough (replay)
1997 was the first time in over ten years that one of the country's top teams had not made it to the final as Leicester City met Middlesbrough.
Boro were one of the country's top-footballing sides with millions spent on the likes of Juninho, Emerson and Fabrizio Ravanelli - but Martin O'Neill had created one of the toughest sides in the Premiership and it was the Foxes who were victorious.
The match at Wembley went to extra-time and Ravanelli looked to have grabbed the winner, but in the final minute Emile Heskey scored to take the game to a replay at Hillsborough.
The replay again went to extra-time - this time there was only one goal in it and it was Steve Claridge who scored to seal a memorable triumph for The Foxes.
Boro also went on to lose the FA Cup final, get relegated and also lose the League Cup final to Chelsea the following year.
9 - 2004: Bolton 1-2 Middlesbrough
Middlesbrough - Boro suffered agony in the 1990s with two successive cup final defeats, but they finally ended their 128-year wait for a trophy in 2004.
They faced Sam Allardyce's Bolton in the final and it was a thrilling affair from first to last.
Indeed Boro had taken the lead within two minutes as Joseph Desire Job converted the fastest goal in League Cup final history, although that record lasted just 12 months when John Arne Riise scored for Liverpool in their defeat against Chelsea.
Just five minutes later Bolo Zenden's controversial penalty - replays showed he kicked the ball twice - doubled Boro's advantage.
Mark Schwarzer's blunder then gifted Kevin Davies a goal but Boro managed to hang-on and seal victory.
10 - 2007: Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea
The last final at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium was a pulsating and in the end controversial one as Chelsea claimed their third League Cup in nine-years.
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger continued with his decision to field his youthful second-string side, which had played in every round.
Wenger's decision looked more than worthwhile as Theo Walcott fired them ahead, but Chelsea soon levelled when Didier Drogba struck.
The second half is when the match erupted. Chelsea skipper John Terry was accidentally kicked in the head by Abou Diaby and was rushed to hospital after being knocked unconscious.
This meant seven minutes of added time, but that was far from the finished strory as an additional five further minutes was needed as Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Adebayor and John Obi Mikel were all sent off following a mass fracas.
The 'Snarling' Cup final as it was later referred to, was seen as a less than fitting end to life at The Millennium Stadium which admirably hosted England's second showpiece event.
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:53 am
Apparently there is a bit of a match on this week-end at Old Trafford. Again it it being tlked up by both managers in the usual vein of I hate you more than you hate me. Even Rooney has jumped on the bandwagon.
So this weeks offering is about the players for a change.
Top 10 Utd-Reds love to hate
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Who's the bastard in the Red
Manchester United players
Gary Neville
Gary is not everyone's cup of tea. His infamous and over-zealous celebration directed at Liverpool fans when United netted a late winner at Old Trafford in 2006 landed the Bury-born defender in hot water with the Football Association. It also sparked supporter outrage. Stricken with passion, the kissing of the badge made Liverpool blood boil. However, if rumour is to be believed, builders have had their own back by burying a Liverpool shrine under the swimming pool of his current home. A certain terrace chant goes: "Gary Neville is a red, is a red, is a red. Gary Neville is a red, he hates Scousers."
Wayne Rooney
A former Everton star and current Red Devil is never likely to have many doors opened for him during a night on the tiles in Concert Square. Rooney emerged as an exciting talent at Goodison Park and was brought to Old Trafford in 2004 for a hefty fee. Rooney partook, albeit nowhere near as controversially, in on-camera celebrations in the aforementioned late win over Liverpool, affirming his joy at defeating his rivals while also deepening the rift he shares with the red half of Merseyside. Scoring in front of the Kop and a hands-to-the-ears celebration as United made off with a 1-0 win in 2005 also ruffled a few feathers. Oh, and there is the small matter of his recent 'hate' revelation.
Roy Keane
On the field, Roy Keane was an angry son of a gun. Full-blooded, he gave his all and let emotion rule his playing style. The former midfielder's football path started against Liverpool, as he made his professional debut versus the Reds during his time at Nottingham Forest. It was almost written that the Irishman would skipper United against arch-rivals Liverpool for years to come. Also, and somewhat fittingly, Keane's last competitive game for Manchester United came against Liverpool. It is of no surprise that a player that spent 12 years at Old Trafford, and took no prisoners, is not flavour of the month with the Anfield faithful.
Eric Cantona
It is reported that in 1991 then Liverpool manager Graeme Souness was informed that 'King Eric' had told French compatriot Michel Platini of his desire to play for Liverpool. Souness declined. Collared-up Cantona signed for Leeds United instead and fired home a hat-trick in their 4-3 Charity Shield victory over the Reds in 1992. The ghost of Cantona would again haunt Liverpool as he slotted home from the penalty spot against the Reds on his return from suspension. The nonchalant playmaker then struck one of the finest goals of his career in the 1996 FA Cup final. His sumptuous volley sucked every ounce of happiness from Liverpool hearts as his 85th minute goal sealed the trophy for the Red Devils.
David Beckham
Beckham spent 10 years at Old Trafford and is a United favourite - and therefore his poster is not on few (male) Liverpool fans' bedroom walls. Perhaps it is his playboy image or memory of that low drive in off the foot of the post in 1996, but Beckham would struggle for a seat in an Anfield directors' box. His on and off-field persona largely differs to that of Keane and Neville, yet his love for all things Red Devils makes him a Liverpool adversary.
Liverpool players
Jamie Carragher
Is Carragher Liverpool's Gary Neville? That's the suggestion of one forum thread this impartial scribe stumbled across when compiling this top 10. Workmanlike and professional in his approach but just does not sit well with United fans. However, said Carragher of fierce rivals Manchester United: "I've never hated Man United. I've always had respect for them. They're a proper club, like us, and they should have respect for us as well." That probably does little to alter opinion though. Carragher lives and breathes Liverpool football club and, with that in mind, is never likely to be top of Red Devil supporters' Christmas card list.
Graeme Souness
The fiery, moustachioed Scot spent six years at Anfield as a player before managing the club from 1991 to 1994. His first goal for the Reds, back in 1978, came against Manchester United at Anfield. Furthermore, Souness had a rather bitey playing style that, from an outsider's perspective, was a little over the top and did not earn him many admirers, especially from the Red Devils contingent.
Steven Gerrard
Like Carragher, Gerrard is Liverpool to the very core, which means dislike from United. The box-to-box midfielder is sure to be met with a shower of boos when in possession against the Red Devils. There is little debating that Gerrard is a quality player, arguably Liverpool's most influential player. And for this reason he will bear the brunt of verbal stick. Also, the England international has scored twice versus United. The first in 2001 when Liverpool recorded a 2-0 Premier League triumph. The second came in the Reds' 2-0 League Cup final victory over their rivals as Gerrard opened the scoring to set his side on their way.
Robbie Fowler
Clinical striker Fowler is a Liverpool darling, and a United foe. Fowler spent a total of 10 years at Anfield, netting a frightening amount of goals. However, the forward could not call on his predatory instincts when United lifted the FA Cup in 1996 courtesy of that Cantona effort. Fowler then completed a double-hit of United rivalry clubs when he signed for Manchester City in 2003. During his time at Eastlands, and much to his delight no doubt, he scored City's third goal in their 3-1 victory in 2006. It has also been rumoured that United - perish the thought - were once interested in signing the forward. Now how would that have sat with Red Devils...
Phil Thompson
'Thommo' spent 13 years at Anfield and makes no secret of his love for the club. The former defender made his Reds debut against Manchester United in 1972, a game that Liverpool won 3-0. Thompson, who also coached at Anfield, is well-known for his public displays of emotion when commentating on Sky Sports' Soccer Saturday. His let's say leaning-towards-Liverpool views can sometimes rub fans, including those who follow Manchester United, up the wrong way. That said, the nature of his joyous and heartbroken displays provide comical entertainment.
So this weeks offering is about the players for a change.
Top 10 Utd-Reds love to hate
or
Who's the bastard in the Red
Manchester United players
Gary Neville
Gary is not everyone's cup of tea. His infamous and over-zealous celebration directed at Liverpool fans when United netted a late winner at Old Trafford in 2006 landed the Bury-born defender in hot water with the Football Association. It also sparked supporter outrage. Stricken with passion, the kissing of the badge made Liverpool blood boil. However, if rumour is to be believed, builders have had their own back by burying a Liverpool shrine under the swimming pool of his current home. A certain terrace chant goes: "Gary Neville is a red, is a red, is a red. Gary Neville is a red, he hates Scousers."
Wayne Rooney
A former Everton star and current Red Devil is never likely to have many doors opened for him during a night on the tiles in Concert Square. Rooney emerged as an exciting talent at Goodison Park and was brought to Old Trafford in 2004 for a hefty fee. Rooney partook, albeit nowhere near as controversially, in on-camera celebrations in the aforementioned late win over Liverpool, affirming his joy at defeating his rivals while also deepening the rift he shares with the red half of Merseyside. Scoring in front of the Kop and a hands-to-the-ears celebration as United made off with a 1-0 win in 2005 also ruffled a few feathers. Oh, and there is the small matter of his recent 'hate' revelation.
Roy Keane
On the field, Roy Keane was an angry son of a gun. Full-blooded, he gave his all and let emotion rule his playing style. The former midfielder's football path started against Liverpool, as he made his professional debut versus the Reds during his time at Nottingham Forest. It was almost written that the Irishman would skipper United against arch-rivals Liverpool for years to come. Also, and somewhat fittingly, Keane's last competitive game for Manchester United came against Liverpool. It is of no surprise that a player that spent 12 years at Old Trafford, and took no prisoners, is not flavour of the month with the Anfield faithful.
Eric Cantona
It is reported that in 1991 then Liverpool manager Graeme Souness was informed that 'King Eric' had told French compatriot Michel Platini of his desire to play for Liverpool. Souness declined. Collared-up Cantona signed for Leeds United instead and fired home a hat-trick in their 4-3 Charity Shield victory over the Reds in 1992. The ghost of Cantona would again haunt Liverpool as he slotted home from the penalty spot against the Reds on his return from suspension. The nonchalant playmaker then struck one of the finest goals of his career in the 1996 FA Cup final. His sumptuous volley sucked every ounce of happiness from Liverpool hearts as his 85th minute goal sealed the trophy for the Red Devils.
David Beckham
Beckham spent 10 years at Old Trafford and is a United favourite - and therefore his poster is not on few (male) Liverpool fans' bedroom walls. Perhaps it is his playboy image or memory of that low drive in off the foot of the post in 1996, but Beckham would struggle for a seat in an Anfield directors' box. His on and off-field persona largely differs to that of Keane and Neville, yet his love for all things Red Devils makes him a Liverpool adversary.
Liverpool players
Jamie Carragher
Is Carragher Liverpool's Gary Neville? That's the suggestion of one forum thread this impartial scribe stumbled across when compiling this top 10. Workmanlike and professional in his approach but just does not sit well with United fans. However, said Carragher of fierce rivals Manchester United: "I've never hated Man United. I've always had respect for them. They're a proper club, like us, and they should have respect for us as well." That probably does little to alter opinion though. Carragher lives and breathes Liverpool football club and, with that in mind, is never likely to be top of Red Devil supporters' Christmas card list.
Graeme Souness
The fiery, moustachioed Scot spent six years at Anfield as a player before managing the club from 1991 to 1994. His first goal for the Reds, back in 1978, came against Manchester United at Anfield. Furthermore, Souness had a rather bitey playing style that, from an outsider's perspective, was a little over the top and did not earn him many admirers, especially from the Red Devils contingent.
Steven Gerrard
Like Carragher, Gerrard is Liverpool to the very core, which means dislike from United. The box-to-box midfielder is sure to be met with a shower of boos when in possession against the Red Devils. There is little debating that Gerrard is a quality player, arguably Liverpool's most influential player. And for this reason he will bear the brunt of verbal stick. Also, the England international has scored twice versus United. The first in 2001 when Liverpool recorded a 2-0 Premier League triumph. The second came in the Reds' 2-0 League Cup final victory over their rivals as Gerrard opened the scoring to set his side on their way.
Robbie Fowler
Clinical striker Fowler is a Liverpool darling, and a United foe. Fowler spent a total of 10 years at Anfield, netting a frightening amount of goals. However, the forward could not call on his predatory instincts when United lifted the FA Cup in 1996 courtesy of that Cantona effort. Fowler then completed a double-hit of United rivalry clubs when he signed for Manchester City in 2003. During his time at Eastlands, and much to his delight no doubt, he scored City's third goal in their 3-1 victory in 2006. It has also been rumoured that United - perish the thought - were once interested in signing the forward. Now how would that have sat with Red Devils...
Phil Thompson
'Thommo' spent 13 years at Anfield and makes no secret of his love for the club. The former defender made his Reds debut against Manchester United in 1972, a game that Liverpool won 3-0. Thompson, who also coached at Anfield, is well-known for his public displays of emotion when commentating on Sky Sports' Soccer Saturday. His let's say leaning-towards-Liverpool views can sometimes rub fans, including those who follow Manchester United, up the wrong way. That said, the nature of his joyous and heartbroken displays provide comical entertainment.
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Re: Top Tens
by Bully » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:44 pm
yeah remember that goal the stevie gerrard scored in 2001 against man united, was great from memory was a fair way out on the run.
Re: Top Tens
by Bully » Sat Mar 14, 2009 4:45 pm
i also thought that Michael Owen would have been there...seen as from memory whilst he was at pool he said he would never consider playing for united??
Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:20 am
Bulldog wrote:i also thought that Michael Owen would have been there...seen as from memory whilst he was at pool he said he would never consider playing for united??
yeah, but it is only an opinionated top ten Bully.
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sat May 02, 2009 7:37 pm
We haven't had one of these for a while. With the League and world Club cups already in the bag, a 2nd leg semi final looming in the Champiions League and the title race just about sewn up, how do you rate Man U's current squad to some of these.
Top Ten Teams of all time...............
10 Spain (2008)Casillas, Ramos, Marchena, Puyol, Capdevila, Senna, Iniesta, Xavi, Silva, Villa, Torres
European champions
Discard the back four, and this is one of the most perfect line-ups imaginable. With David Villa and Fernando Torres in front of a mouth-watering midfield of Marcos Senna, Andres Iniesta, Xavi and David Villa, it's no wonder Spain swept away their tag of nearly men last year.
9 Holland (1974)
Jongbloed, Krol, Rijsbergen, Suurbier, Haan, Van Hanegem, Jansen, Neeskens, Cruyff, Rensenbrink, Rep
World Cup runners-up
With Johan Cruyff and the Total Football kings when Holland were conquered by West Germany in 1974. How could you resist those orange shirts.
8 Hungary (1954)
Grosics, Buzanszky, Lantos, Bozsik, Lorant, Zakarias, Toth, Czibor, Kocsis, Hidegkuti, Puskas
World Cup runners-up
The legendary Ferenc Puskas led the fabled Magnificent Magyars, with a fair bit of help from Sandor Kocsis, to within fingertips of ultimate glory. The attacking trailblazers were cruelly beaten by West Germany in the World Cup final, 16 years after suffering the same fate at the hands of Italy.
7 AC Milan (1989)
Galli, Tassotti, Costacurta, Baresi, Maldini, Ancelotti, Rijkaard, Colombo, Donadoni, Gullit, Van Basten
European Cup winners, Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup
The team with typically uncompromising Italian defenders, more than a flavour of Dutch flair - and an English name! This side - with the outstanding Marco van Basten and Ruud Gullit striking fear into the opposition - looked damn good in those rossoneri stripes, too.
6 England (1966)
Banks, Cohen, J Charlton, Moore, Wilson, Stiles, Ball, B Charlton, Peters, Hurst, Hunt
World champions
England's pride - yet not good enough to make the top of the list. Perhaps one day the Three Lions will win the top prize again, joining the legends of Banks, Charlton, Hurst and Moore as names etched on the hearts of a nation.
5 Arsenal (2004)
Lehmann, Lauren, Campbell, Toure, Cole, Ljungberg, Gilberto Silva, Vieira, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry
English League champions
The Invincibles. Need one say more? Arsenal took the moniker first given to Preston some 120 years earlier by going a whole season unbeaten on their way to lifting the League title. Arsene Wenger's finest moment - and one he is unlikely ever to match.
4 Liverpool (1984)
Grobbelaar, Neal, Kennedy, Hansen, Lawrenson, Whelan, Dalglish, Lee, Rush, Johnston, Souness
European Cup winners, English league champions, League Cup winners
It's hard to pick a fault in this Liverpool side. Deadly striker Ian Rush scored 47 goals as he led the side to a fantastic treble. Bruce 'Wobbly Legs' Grobbelaar was the hero in an memorable European Cup final penalty shoot-out in Rome.
3 Real Madrid (1960)
Dominguez, Marquitos, Santamari, Pachin, Vidal, Zarraga, Canario, Del Sol, Di Stefano, Puskas, Gento
European Cup winners, Intercontinental Cup winners
Ferenc Puskas makes his second appearance in this top 10, this time in the iconic white of Real Madrid. The 1960 side claimed Los Merengues' fifth successive European Cup - as well as being crowned kings of the world - with Madrid's finest: Alfredo di Stefano banging in the goals.
2 Manchester United (1999)
Schmeichel, Neville, Stam, Johnsen, Irwin, Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Yorke, Cole
Champions League winners, English league champions, FA Cup winners
Reached new heights with their fantastic Treble-winning achievement. The closing moments of that night in Barcelona turned a rather drab European Cup final into arguably the most dramatic of all time - and made legends of Sir Alex Ferguson's XI.
1 Brazil (1970)
Felix, Brito, Piazza, Carlos Alberto, Everaldo, Clodoaldo, Gerson, Jairzinho, Tostao, Pele, Rivelino
World champions
Sublime, inventive, breath-taking... words which fail to do justice to the beauty which Brazil's heroes of 1970 gave the world on the biggest stage. This was futebol-arte, this was Pele in his last World Cup, this was the side that produced perhaps the finest team goal of all time in the final against Italy. No wonder they let them keep the trophy.
Top Ten Teams of all time...............
10 Spain (2008)Casillas, Ramos, Marchena, Puyol, Capdevila, Senna, Iniesta, Xavi, Silva, Villa, Torres
European champions
Discard the back four, and this is one of the most perfect line-ups imaginable. With David Villa and Fernando Torres in front of a mouth-watering midfield of Marcos Senna, Andres Iniesta, Xavi and David Villa, it's no wonder Spain swept away their tag of nearly men last year.
9 Holland (1974)
Jongbloed, Krol, Rijsbergen, Suurbier, Haan, Van Hanegem, Jansen, Neeskens, Cruyff, Rensenbrink, Rep
World Cup runners-up
With Johan Cruyff and the Total Football kings when Holland were conquered by West Germany in 1974. How could you resist those orange shirts.
8 Hungary (1954)
Grosics, Buzanszky, Lantos, Bozsik, Lorant, Zakarias, Toth, Czibor, Kocsis, Hidegkuti, Puskas
World Cup runners-up
The legendary Ferenc Puskas led the fabled Magnificent Magyars, with a fair bit of help from Sandor Kocsis, to within fingertips of ultimate glory. The attacking trailblazers were cruelly beaten by West Germany in the World Cup final, 16 years after suffering the same fate at the hands of Italy.
7 AC Milan (1989)
Galli, Tassotti, Costacurta, Baresi, Maldini, Ancelotti, Rijkaard, Colombo, Donadoni, Gullit, Van Basten
European Cup winners, Super Cup, Intercontinental Cup
The team with typically uncompromising Italian defenders, more than a flavour of Dutch flair - and an English name! This side - with the outstanding Marco van Basten and Ruud Gullit striking fear into the opposition - looked damn good in those rossoneri stripes, too.
6 England (1966)
Banks, Cohen, J Charlton, Moore, Wilson, Stiles, Ball, B Charlton, Peters, Hurst, Hunt
World champions
England's pride - yet not good enough to make the top of the list. Perhaps one day the Three Lions will win the top prize again, joining the legends of Banks, Charlton, Hurst and Moore as names etched on the hearts of a nation.
5 Arsenal (2004)
Lehmann, Lauren, Campbell, Toure, Cole, Ljungberg, Gilberto Silva, Vieira, Pires, Bergkamp, Henry
English League champions
The Invincibles. Need one say more? Arsenal took the moniker first given to Preston some 120 years earlier by going a whole season unbeaten on their way to lifting the League title. Arsene Wenger's finest moment - and one he is unlikely ever to match.
4 Liverpool (1984)
Grobbelaar, Neal, Kennedy, Hansen, Lawrenson, Whelan, Dalglish, Lee, Rush, Johnston, Souness
European Cup winners, English league champions, League Cup winners
It's hard to pick a fault in this Liverpool side. Deadly striker Ian Rush scored 47 goals as he led the side to a fantastic treble. Bruce 'Wobbly Legs' Grobbelaar was the hero in an memorable European Cup final penalty shoot-out in Rome.
3 Real Madrid (1960)
Dominguez, Marquitos, Santamari, Pachin, Vidal, Zarraga, Canario, Del Sol, Di Stefano, Puskas, Gento
European Cup winners, Intercontinental Cup winners
Ferenc Puskas makes his second appearance in this top 10, this time in the iconic white of Real Madrid. The 1960 side claimed Los Merengues' fifth successive European Cup - as well as being crowned kings of the world - with Madrid's finest: Alfredo di Stefano banging in the goals.
2 Manchester United (1999)
Schmeichel, Neville, Stam, Johnsen, Irwin, Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Yorke, Cole
Champions League winners, English league champions, FA Cup winners
Reached new heights with their fantastic Treble-winning achievement. The closing moments of that night in Barcelona turned a rather drab European Cup final into arguably the most dramatic of all time - and made legends of Sir Alex Ferguson's XI.
1 Brazil (1970)
Felix, Brito, Piazza, Carlos Alberto, Everaldo, Clodoaldo, Gerson, Jairzinho, Tostao, Pele, Rivelino
World champions
Sublime, inventive, breath-taking... words which fail to do justice to the beauty which Brazil's heroes of 1970 gave the world on the biggest stage. This was futebol-arte, this was Pele in his last World Cup, this was the side that produced perhaps the finest team goal of all time in the final against Italy. No wonder they let them keep the trophy.
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sat May 09, 2009 6:17 am
As the season comes to a close, here's a nice simple one. the top 10 value for money signings this year
Not every club can splash the cash to land a big name when the transfer window opens but, every now and again, the beautiful game serves us with a reminder that money isn't everything.
Who has been the signing of the season?
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Gizzus a job
10 James Milner (Newcastle - Aston Villa, £10m)
9 Ross McCormack (Motherwell - Cardiff, free)
8 Wilson Palacios (Wigan - Tottenham, £12m)
7 Geovanni (Manchester City - Hull, free)
6 Brad Friedel (Blackburn - Aston Villa, free)
5 Luka Modric (Dinamo Zagreb - Tottenham, £16.5m)
4 Mark Schwarzer (Middlesbrough - Fulham, free)
3 Marouane Fellaini (Standard Liege - Everton, £15m)
2 Andrey Arshavin (Zenit St Petersburg - Arsenal, £15m)
1 James Beattie (Sheff Utd - Stoke, £3.5m)
Of course it's all open to opinion
Not every club can splash the cash to land a big name when the transfer window opens but, every now and again, the beautiful game serves us with a reminder that money isn't everything.
Who has been the signing of the season?
or
Gizzus a job
10 James Milner (Newcastle - Aston Villa, £10m)
9 Ross McCormack (Motherwell - Cardiff, free)
8 Wilson Palacios (Wigan - Tottenham, £12m)
7 Geovanni (Manchester City - Hull, free)
6 Brad Friedel (Blackburn - Aston Villa, free)
5 Luka Modric (Dinamo Zagreb - Tottenham, £16.5m)
4 Mark Schwarzer (Middlesbrough - Fulham, free)
3 Marouane Fellaini (Standard Liege - Everton, £15m)
2 Andrey Arshavin (Zenit St Petersburg - Arsenal, £15m)
1 James Beattie (Sheff Utd - Stoke, £3.5m)
Of course it's all open to opinion
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:21 am
Here's a blast from the past. Withh Sol Campbell's return to Arsenal imminent I thought i would bump this thread with a top ten returns
Teddy Sheringham
Sheringham enjoyed five years at Tottenham in the 1990s before switching to Manchester United in 1997 for £3.5million as the Red Devils sought to replace the iconic Eric Cantona. After a somewhat shaky start Sheringham eventually won over the United faithful and a trophy-laden spell at Old Trafford ensued. The England international wound back up at White Hart Lane in 2001 and managed a respectable tally of 27 goals in 80 appearances - proving that talent doesn't necessarily dwindle with age.
Juninho
The diminutive Brazilian arrived on Teeside looking like a trembling schoolboy back in 1995 but the midfielder grew accustomed to the cold and soon proved he had the feistiness to mix it in the Premier League and the talent to wow the Middlesbrough support. Following Boro's relegation from the top flight in 1997 Juninho joined Atletico Madrid but was soon back in the North East two years later, this time on loan from the Spanish side. Further loans with Vasco da Gama and Flamengo ensued before Boro stumped up £6million to bring the playmaker back for a third spell. It was to prove arguably his most successful as he helped the club to the League Cup in 2004 before ending his final stint at the club with a record of 12 goals in 48 appearances.
Robbie Fowler
Labelled 'God' by Liverpool fans during his prolific spell at the club in the 1990s Fowler returned to Anfield in January 2006. Many feared the signing was based on nostalgia rather than current form with critics of the opinion that that various knee injuries were beginning to take their toll on the striker. Reds fans needn't have worried as the former England international ended the 2005/06 season with five goals in 14 games while his final full season at the club brought a respectable seven goals in 23 games.
Jermain Defoe
The most recent of our returning stars quickly became a fans' favourite at Tottenham having signed for £7million from West Ham in 2004. However opportunities began to dry up for the England international under Juande Ramos and he was allowed to join Portsmouth four years later to join up with his former Hammers boss Harry Redknapp. The 27-year-old lasted less than a year at Fratton Park before Spurs and Redknapp, who succeeded Ramos in the White Hart Lane hot-seat, came calling. The decision to re-sign the striker looks inspired with Defoe currently topping the Premier League scoring charts with 14.
David Dunn
The midfielder came through the ranks at Blackburn with many tipping the 30-year-old for future England glory. However injury was to disrupt his progress at Ewood Park and a move to Birmingham soon materialised in summer 2003. To Blues fans' disappointment Dunn was to suffer more injury heartache at St Andrews, making just 58 league appearances in three and a half seasons. Former club Rovers were not to be perturbed and re-signed Dunn for £2.2million in January 2007. The Blackburn-born ace appears to have put his injury problems behind him, Dunn has already surpassed his league appearances for Birmingham with a season to spare, and has managed to add goals to his game with six already this term.
Jurgen Klinsmann
Yet another Tottenham striker to make the list, Klinsmann made an instant impact at White Hart Lane and the Premier League as a whole when he signed from Monaco for a snip price £2million in 1994. The striker only stayed for a season but made sure he would remain in Spurs' fans memory for many more to come as he claimed 21 league goals and picked up the Football Writers' Player of the Year. The Germany international left for Bayern Munich but rejoined Spurs on loan from Sampdoria in December 1997. Then aged 33 Klinsmann defied the critics and managed nine goals in just 15 appearances.
Peter Beardsley
Beardsley signed for Newcastle in 1983 for a paltry £150,000 from Vancouver Whitecaps and quickly made a name for himself on Tyneside. 61 league goals in 147 games ensured that Liverpool came calling. However six years after leaving the forward rejoined the Magpies from Everton in 1993, becoming a vital member of the Kevin Keegan side that finished runners-up to Manchester United in the Premier League in 1997. The former England man left St James' Park at the end of that season having scored 47 league goals in 129 games during his second spell.
Ian Rush
The Welshman scored goals for fun at Liverpool in the 1980s before trying his luck abroad when he signed for Juventus in 1986. However, after an unhappy season in Serie A, Rush was back to Merseyside and, once back on familiar ground, continued where he had left off. During his second spell at the club Rush bagged 182 goals in 368 games in all competitions.
David Batty
Having won the First Division, now the Premier League, with Leeds in 1992 you would have been forgiven for asking why Batty decided to return to Yorkshire having already achieved the pinnacle of any player's career with the club. But after stints at Blackburn, where he won another league crown, and Newcastle, the tenacious midfielder rejoined the Whites for £4.4million in 1998. The signing was to prove vital as the former England international provided the experience for David O'Leary's fledglings during their incredible run to the UEFA Champions League semi-finals in 2001.
Duncan Ferguson
The giant Scotsman signed for Everton from Rangers for £4million, after an initial loan spell, in 1994 and quickly became a firm favourite with the Goodison Park faithful for his no-nonsense style of play. However four years later Newcastle decided to stump up a whopping £7million for the striker, but just 10 goals in 41 appearances meant the 38-year-old was allowed to rejoin the Toffees for a cut-price £3.75million. Six years and a further 140 appearances later, Ferguson eventually decided to hang up his boots to the relief of Premier League defenders up and down the land.
Teddy Sheringham
Sheringham enjoyed five years at Tottenham in the 1990s before switching to Manchester United in 1997 for £3.5million as the Red Devils sought to replace the iconic Eric Cantona. After a somewhat shaky start Sheringham eventually won over the United faithful and a trophy-laden spell at Old Trafford ensued. The England international wound back up at White Hart Lane in 2001 and managed a respectable tally of 27 goals in 80 appearances - proving that talent doesn't necessarily dwindle with age.
Juninho
The diminutive Brazilian arrived on Teeside looking like a trembling schoolboy back in 1995 but the midfielder grew accustomed to the cold and soon proved he had the feistiness to mix it in the Premier League and the talent to wow the Middlesbrough support. Following Boro's relegation from the top flight in 1997 Juninho joined Atletico Madrid but was soon back in the North East two years later, this time on loan from the Spanish side. Further loans with Vasco da Gama and Flamengo ensued before Boro stumped up £6million to bring the playmaker back for a third spell. It was to prove arguably his most successful as he helped the club to the League Cup in 2004 before ending his final stint at the club with a record of 12 goals in 48 appearances.
Robbie Fowler
Labelled 'God' by Liverpool fans during his prolific spell at the club in the 1990s Fowler returned to Anfield in January 2006. Many feared the signing was based on nostalgia rather than current form with critics of the opinion that that various knee injuries were beginning to take their toll on the striker. Reds fans needn't have worried as the former England international ended the 2005/06 season with five goals in 14 games while his final full season at the club brought a respectable seven goals in 23 games.
Jermain Defoe
The most recent of our returning stars quickly became a fans' favourite at Tottenham having signed for £7million from West Ham in 2004. However opportunities began to dry up for the England international under Juande Ramos and he was allowed to join Portsmouth four years later to join up with his former Hammers boss Harry Redknapp. The 27-year-old lasted less than a year at Fratton Park before Spurs and Redknapp, who succeeded Ramos in the White Hart Lane hot-seat, came calling. The decision to re-sign the striker looks inspired with Defoe currently topping the Premier League scoring charts with 14.
David Dunn
The midfielder came through the ranks at Blackburn with many tipping the 30-year-old for future England glory. However injury was to disrupt his progress at Ewood Park and a move to Birmingham soon materialised in summer 2003. To Blues fans' disappointment Dunn was to suffer more injury heartache at St Andrews, making just 58 league appearances in three and a half seasons. Former club Rovers were not to be perturbed and re-signed Dunn for £2.2million in January 2007. The Blackburn-born ace appears to have put his injury problems behind him, Dunn has already surpassed his league appearances for Birmingham with a season to spare, and has managed to add goals to his game with six already this term.
Jurgen Klinsmann
Yet another Tottenham striker to make the list, Klinsmann made an instant impact at White Hart Lane and the Premier League as a whole when he signed from Monaco for a snip price £2million in 1994. The striker only stayed for a season but made sure he would remain in Spurs' fans memory for many more to come as he claimed 21 league goals and picked up the Football Writers' Player of the Year. The Germany international left for Bayern Munich but rejoined Spurs on loan from Sampdoria in December 1997. Then aged 33 Klinsmann defied the critics and managed nine goals in just 15 appearances.
Peter Beardsley
Beardsley signed for Newcastle in 1983 for a paltry £150,000 from Vancouver Whitecaps and quickly made a name for himself on Tyneside. 61 league goals in 147 games ensured that Liverpool came calling. However six years after leaving the forward rejoined the Magpies from Everton in 1993, becoming a vital member of the Kevin Keegan side that finished runners-up to Manchester United in the Premier League in 1997. The former England man left St James' Park at the end of that season having scored 47 league goals in 129 games during his second spell.
Ian Rush
The Welshman scored goals for fun at Liverpool in the 1980s before trying his luck abroad when he signed for Juventus in 1986. However, after an unhappy season in Serie A, Rush was back to Merseyside and, once back on familiar ground, continued where he had left off. During his second spell at the club Rush bagged 182 goals in 368 games in all competitions.
David Batty
Having won the First Division, now the Premier League, with Leeds in 1992 you would have been forgiven for asking why Batty decided to return to Yorkshire having already achieved the pinnacle of any player's career with the club. But after stints at Blackburn, where he won another league crown, and Newcastle, the tenacious midfielder rejoined the Whites for £4.4million in 1998. The signing was to prove vital as the former England international provided the experience for David O'Leary's fledglings during their incredible run to the UEFA Champions League semi-finals in 2001.
Duncan Ferguson
The giant Scotsman signed for Everton from Rangers for £4million, after an initial loan spell, in 1994 and quickly became a firm favourite with the Goodison Park faithful for his no-nonsense style of play. However four years later Newcastle decided to stump up a whopping £7million for the striker, but just 10 goals in 41 appearances meant the 38-year-old was allowed to rejoin the Toffees for a cut-price £3.75million. Six years and a further 140 appearances later, Ferguson eventually decided to hang up his boots to the relief of Premier League defenders up and down the land.
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Re: Top Tens
by Il Duce » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:15 am
johntheclaret wrote:Not particularly topical, but here is a Daily Mail "experts" poll on the top ten goal poachers
10. Andrew Cole (Arsenal, Fulham (loan), Bristol City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham, Manchester City, Portsmouth, Birmingham (loan), Sunderland, Burnley (loan), Nottingham Forest
9. Allan Clarke (Walsall, Fulham, Leicester, Leeds, Barnsley)
8. Alan Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)
7. Robbie Fowler (Liverpool, Leeds, Man City, Liverpool, Cardiff City, Blackburn)
6. Michael Owen (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle)
5. Denis Law (Huddersfield, Man City, Torino, Man United, Man City)
4. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Den Bosch, Heerenveen, PSV, Man United, Real Madrid)
3. Jimmy Greaves (Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
2. Ian Rush (Chester, Liverpool, Juventus, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield United (loan), Wrexham)
1. Gary Lineker (Leicester, Everton, Barcelona, Spurs, Nagoya Grampus Eight)
I know its only opion based but how is filippo inzaghi not in here or is this an english thing only.
The problem with Barcelona is that I like fish and chips but they had to turn it into calamari and patatas
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Re: Top Tens
by devilsadvocate » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 am
johntheclaret wrote:Jurgen Klinsmann
Yet another Tottenham striker to make the list, Klinsmann made an instant impact at White Hart Lane and the Premier League as a whole when he signed from Monaco for a snip price £2million in 1994. The striker only stayed for a season but made sure he would remain in Spurs' fans memory for many more to come as he claimed 21 league goals and picked up the Football Writers' Player of the Year. The Germany international left for Bayern Munich but rejoined Spurs on loan from Sampdoria in December 1997. Then aged 33 Klinsmann defied the critics and managed nine goals in just 15 appearances.
The reason I started supporting Spurs.
What a legend.
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Re: Top Tens
by devilsadvocate » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 am
Il Duce wrote:johntheclaret wrote:Not particularly topical, but here is a Daily Mail "experts" poll on the top ten goal poachers
10. Andrew Cole (Arsenal, Fulham (loan), Bristol City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham, Manchester City, Portsmouth, Birmingham (loan), Sunderland, Burnley (loan), Nottingham Forest
9. Allan Clarke (Walsall, Fulham, Leicester, Leeds, Barnsley)
8. Alan Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)
7. Robbie Fowler (Liverpool, Leeds, Man City, Liverpool, Cardiff City, Blackburn)
6. Michael Owen (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle)
5. Denis Law (Huddersfield, Man City, Torino, Man United, Man City)
4. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Den Bosch, Heerenveen, PSV, Man United, Real Madrid)
3. Jimmy Greaves (Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
2. Ian Rush (Chester, Liverpool, Juventus, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield United (loan), Wrexham)
1. Gary Lineker (Leicester, Everton, Barcelona, Spurs, Nagoya Grampus Eight)
I know its only opion based but how is filippo inzaghi not in here or is this an english thing only.
Never played in England mate.
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Re: Top Tens
by The Jack » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:18 am
Looks fairly English to me ID, but you're right that little weasel from Milan sure knows where to be for a tap-in!
Re: Top Tens
by Il Duce » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:29 am
yeah no shit tell me about it, cant stand him, but I will give him his due, he has made a whole carrer out of putting in for no more than 6 yards out then again thats what he is paid to do.
The problem with Barcelona is that I like fish and chips but they had to turn it into calamari and patatas
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Re: Top Tens
by Pidge » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:07 pm
devilsadvocate wrote:Il Duce wrote:johntheclaret wrote:Not particularly topical, but here is a Daily Mail "experts" poll on the top ten goal poachers
10. Andrew Cole (Arsenal, Fulham (loan), Bristol City, Newcastle United, Manchester United, Blackburn Rovers, Fulham, Manchester City, Portsmouth, Birmingham (loan), Sunderland, Burnley (loan), Nottingham Forest
9. Allan Clarke (Walsall, Fulham, Leicester, Leeds, Barnsley)
8. Alan Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)
7. Robbie Fowler (Liverpool, Leeds, Man City, Liverpool, Cardiff City, Blackburn)
6. Michael Owen (Liverpool, Real Madrid, Newcastle)
5. Denis Law (Huddersfield, Man City, Torino, Man United, Man City)
4. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Den Bosch, Heerenveen, PSV, Man United, Real Madrid)
3. Jimmy Greaves (Chelsea, AC Milan, Tottenham Hotspur, West Ham United)
2. Ian Rush (Chester, Liverpool, Juventus, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Sheffield United (loan), Wrexham)
1. Gary Lineker (Leicester, Everton, Barcelona, Spurs, Nagoya Grampus Eight)
I know its only opion based but how is filippo inzaghi not in here or is this an english thing only.
Never played in England mate.
This is a list that must have Dirk Kuyt on it.
It's Somma Time!
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Re: Top Tens
by devilsadvocate » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:26 pm
Pidge wrote:This is a list that must have Dirk Kuyt on it.
Goal poacher yes, but 30 odd goals over nearly 5 seasons would hardly scrape him into the top 50
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Re: Top Tens
by johntheclaret » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:44 am
Chelsea's 7 - 2 demolition of Sunderland today gives rise to this week's top ten, as we look at the top ten thrshings in the EPL
Manchester United 9 Ipswich 0 - March 1995
The most comprehensive victory in Premier League history was secured by the most successful side in the competition's history when Manchester United destroyed Ipswich at Old Trafford towards the end of the 1994/95 campaign. A record-breaking afternoon saw Andy Cole become the first man to bag five goals in a Premier League fixture, while Mark Hughes (2), Paul Ince and Roy Keane also got in on the act. The victory was not enough to help United to the title that year - as they were pipped to the post by Blackburn - but it put a significant nail in Ipswich's coffin, as the Tractor Boys duly finished bottom and slipped into the second tier without so much as a whimper.
Tottenham 9 Wigan 1 - November 2009
A remarkable contest at White Hart Lane saw no less than nine goals scored during a pulsating second half, with a Peter Crouch effort all that separated the two teams at the interval. Jermain Defoe went on to bag five during the second 45 minutes, becoming the first man to achieve such a feat. A Chris Kirkland own goal, a deserved strike from Aaron Lennon and late rocket from Niko Kranjcar underlined Spurs' dominance. Paul Scharner grabbed the Latics' solitary reply, but even that should not have stood after the Austrian used his hand to control the ball before rifling home.
Newcastle 8 Sheffield Wednesday 0 - September 1999
St James' Park bore witness to another five-star show in 1999, with Toon hero Alan Shearer stealing the headlines on this occasion. The most fearsome frontman in the history of the Premier League enjoyed a memorable afternoon in front of his adoring Tyneside public as he cut the Owls to pieces. His five goals included two penalties, and five trademark one-armed celebrations. Aaron Hughes set the ball rolling in a one-sided contest, while Kieron Dyer and Gary Speed also netted in the second half.
Nottingham Forest 1 Manchester United 8 - February 1999
United, not happy with holding the overall biggest win record, also lay claim to the most comprehensive victory away from home. They made light work of a lacklustre Forest side in 1999, with the Reds eventually succumbing to the drop. Forest had threatened to make a contest of the City Ground encounter when Alan Rogers replied to an early strike from Dwight Yorke, but that was as good as it got for the hosts. Andy Cole went on to bag a brace, while Yorke grabbed his second of the game shortly after the hour mark to put United in complete control. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer then enjoyed the most spectacular of cameos as he stepped off the bench to grab four goals in the final 10 minutes.
Middlesbrough 8 Manchester City 1 - May 2008
Middlesbrough wrapped up their 2008/09 campaign in style with a resounding victory over City. Boro had given little indication over the course of the season that they were capable of such a feat, surprising even most of their own fans with their final day exploits. Stewart Downing bagged two, while Afonso Alves - in a rare display of class - went one better and claimed the match ball. Adam Johnson, Fabio Rochemback and Jeremie Aliadiere also found the target in the North East goal-fest. Elano's late effort for City counted for nothing, while Blues boss Sven Goran Eriksson was shown the door shortly after this humiliating defeat.
Arsenal 7 Everton 0 - May 2005
Arsenal were at their free-flowing best during this meeting with Everton, with six different players getting their name on the scoresheet. Dutch magician Dennis Bergkamp proved to the Toffees' tormentor in chief, as he scored one and laid on three others. Robert Pires (2), Robin van Persie, Patrick Vieira, Mathieu Flamini and an Edu penalty also breached a forlorn Everton defence. The Gunners went on to finish second in the table, but at least they gave the Highbury faithful plenty to shout about during their final home game of the season.
Blackburn 7 Nottingham Forest 0 - November 1995
Blackburn enjoyed playing against Forest during the 1995/96 campaign, scoring 12 goals over the course of their two meetings. The most comprehensive of their two successes came on home soil, as they eased to victory in the autumn of 1995. Alan Shearer was unsurprisingly among the goals for Rovers, with the England international grabbing an impressive hat-trick. Mike Newell and Graeme Le Saux also netted, while Lars Bohinen bagged a brace against his former employers.
Manchester United 7 Barnsley 0 - October 1997
Another entry from Manchester United on our list, with the Red Devils in seventh heaven during their meeting with Barnsley at the Theatre of Dreams in the 1997/98 campaign. Andy Cole was at his free-scoring best yet again, with his first-half hat-trick putting the game beyond the Tykes. Ryan Giggs found the target twice for Sir Alex Ferguson's side, while Paul Scholes and Karel Poborsky also boosted their goal account. Barnsley will hold plenty of fond memories from their one and only Premier League campaign, but it is safe to assume that this visit to Manchester will not be among them.
Arsenal 7 Middlesbrough 0 - January 2006
Another contest to feature hat-trick heroics, with the Gunners recording their second 7-0 success in the space of eight goal-laden months. Thierry Henry, the most celebrated striker in Arsenal's illustrious history, was the man to bag a treble, helping to inspire Wenger's men to glory. Robert Pires was also on target once again, while rare goals from Philippe Senderos, Gilberto Silva and Alexander Hleb rounded off the scoring.
Sheffield Wednesday 1 Nottingham Forest 7 - April 1995
Forest enjoyed a memorable return to the top flight in the 1994/95 campaign, securing a third placed finish in their first season back in the big time. One of their most impressive showings that term came at Hillsborough, as they decimated the beleaguered Owls. Stan Collymore, who was at the height of his powers at the time, was the key man for Forest as he bagged a brace. His strike partner in crime Bryan Roy also notched two, while Lars Bohinen, Ian Woan and Stuart Pearce also got their name on the scoresheet. Mark Bright found the target for Wednesday, but his effort was of scant consolation
Manchester United 9 Ipswich 0 - March 1995
The most comprehensive victory in Premier League history was secured by the most successful side in the competition's history when Manchester United destroyed Ipswich at Old Trafford towards the end of the 1994/95 campaign. A record-breaking afternoon saw Andy Cole become the first man to bag five goals in a Premier League fixture, while Mark Hughes (2), Paul Ince and Roy Keane also got in on the act. The victory was not enough to help United to the title that year - as they were pipped to the post by Blackburn - but it put a significant nail in Ipswich's coffin, as the Tractor Boys duly finished bottom and slipped into the second tier without so much as a whimper.
Tottenham 9 Wigan 1 - November 2009
A remarkable contest at White Hart Lane saw no less than nine goals scored during a pulsating second half, with a Peter Crouch effort all that separated the two teams at the interval. Jermain Defoe went on to bag five during the second 45 minutes, becoming the first man to achieve such a feat. A Chris Kirkland own goal, a deserved strike from Aaron Lennon and late rocket from Niko Kranjcar underlined Spurs' dominance. Paul Scharner grabbed the Latics' solitary reply, but even that should not have stood after the Austrian used his hand to control the ball before rifling home.
Newcastle 8 Sheffield Wednesday 0 - September 1999
St James' Park bore witness to another five-star show in 1999, with Toon hero Alan Shearer stealing the headlines on this occasion. The most fearsome frontman in the history of the Premier League enjoyed a memorable afternoon in front of his adoring Tyneside public as he cut the Owls to pieces. His five goals included two penalties, and five trademark one-armed celebrations. Aaron Hughes set the ball rolling in a one-sided contest, while Kieron Dyer and Gary Speed also netted in the second half.
Nottingham Forest 1 Manchester United 8 - February 1999
United, not happy with holding the overall biggest win record, also lay claim to the most comprehensive victory away from home. They made light work of a lacklustre Forest side in 1999, with the Reds eventually succumbing to the drop. Forest had threatened to make a contest of the City Ground encounter when Alan Rogers replied to an early strike from Dwight Yorke, but that was as good as it got for the hosts. Andy Cole went on to bag a brace, while Yorke grabbed his second of the game shortly after the hour mark to put United in complete control. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer then enjoyed the most spectacular of cameos as he stepped off the bench to grab four goals in the final 10 minutes.
Middlesbrough 8 Manchester City 1 - May 2008
Middlesbrough wrapped up their 2008/09 campaign in style with a resounding victory over City. Boro had given little indication over the course of the season that they were capable of such a feat, surprising even most of their own fans with their final day exploits. Stewart Downing bagged two, while Afonso Alves - in a rare display of class - went one better and claimed the match ball. Adam Johnson, Fabio Rochemback and Jeremie Aliadiere also found the target in the North East goal-fest. Elano's late effort for City counted for nothing, while Blues boss Sven Goran Eriksson was shown the door shortly after this humiliating defeat.
Arsenal 7 Everton 0 - May 2005
Arsenal were at their free-flowing best during this meeting with Everton, with six different players getting their name on the scoresheet. Dutch magician Dennis Bergkamp proved to the Toffees' tormentor in chief, as he scored one and laid on three others. Robert Pires (2), Robin van Persie, Patrick Vieira, Mathieu Flamini and an Edu penalty also breached a forlorn Everton defence. The Gunners went on to finish second in the table, but at least they gave the Highbury faithful plenty to shout about during their final home game of the season.
Blackburn 7 Nottingham Forest 0 - November 1995
Blackburn enjoyed playing against Forest during the 1995/96 campaign, scoring 12 goals over the course of their two meetings. The most comprehensive of their two successes came on home soil, as they eased to victory in the autumn of 1995. Alan Shearer was unsurprisingly among the goals for Rovers, with the England international grabbing an impressive hat-trick. Mike Newell and Graeme Le Saux also netted, while Lars Bohinen bagged a brace against his former employers.
Manchester United 7 Barnsley 0 - October 1997
Another entry from Manchester United on our list, with the Red Devils in seventh heaven during their meeting with Barnsley at the Theatre of Dreams in the 1997/98 campaign. Andy Cole was at his free-scoring best yet again, with his first-half hat-trick putting the game beyond the Tykes. Ryan Giggs found the target twice for Sir Alex Ferguson's side, while Paul Scholes and Karel Poborsky also boosted their goal account. Barnsley will hold plenty of fond memories from their one and only Premier League campaign, but it is safe to assume that this visit to Manchester will not be among them.
Arsenal 7 Middlesbrough 0 - January 2006
Another contest to feature hat-trick heroics, with the Gunners recording their second 7-0 success in the space of eight goal-laden months. Thierry Henry, the most celebrated striker in Arsenal's illustrious history, was the man to bag a treble, helping to inspire Wenger's men to glory. Robert Pires was also on target once again, while rare goals from Philippe Senderos, Gilberto Silva and Alexander Hleb rounded off the scoring.
Sheffield Wednesday 1 Nottingham Forest 7 - April 1995
Forest enjoyed a memorable return to the top flight in the 1994/95 campaign, securing a third placed finish in their first season back in the big time. One of their most impressive showings that term came at Hillsborough, as they decimated the beleaguered Owls. Stan Collymore, who was at the height of his powers at the time, was the key man for Forest as he bagged a brace. His strike partner in crime Bryan Roy also notched two, while Lars Bohinen, Ian Woan and Stuart Pearce also got their name on the scoresheet. Mark Bright found the target for Wednesday, but his effort was of scant consolation
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