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Postby Il Duce » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:54 am

The A-League doesn’t care about active fans

http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/07/23/th ... tive-fans/

Football Federation Australia’s latest advertising campaign focuses heavily on fan participation. But while FFA officials publicly spruik the wares of active fans, it seems that they’re busy trying to restrict that very same participation behind closed doors.

One of the A-League’s new “fan-made” ads shows an elderly shop assistant unrolling metres of sky blue fabric, before the cutaway reveals the spectacular sight of Sydney FC fans flying their impressive Skyline banner before an A-League match.

That’s a sight you won’t see ahead of the much-anticipated Grand Final rematch between Sydney FC and Melbourne Victory on August 7, if word trickling through from Sydney FC fans is anything to go by.

Following consultation with private security firm Hatamoto, FFA officials have allegedly decided to slap a ban on banner pullovers at “high risk” games, presumably due to the potential risk posed by fans lighting flares underneath flammable material.

But what rankles Sydney supporters is the complete lack of consultation between themselves and the FFA, with members of Sydney’s popular supporters group The Cove accusing “non-football” people of making decisions which clearly affect their matchday affairs.

It’s a trend that we’ve seen across the board in the A-League, and the shadowy involvement of security firm Hatamoto deserves further scrutiny.

In a fabulous piece posted on his blog The Accidental Australian last September, Melbourne Victory supporter Guido wondered if the FFA understands football fans, or whether they’re so caught up in protecting the “brand” that they are at risk of alienating genuine supporters.

It’s those supporters who invest their time and money into creating banners in the first place, but because of the actions of an unruly few, the majority of law-abiding fans – many of whom despise the use of flares – are now being punished.

And it’s not just active fans who lose, but those who turn out at A-League games in part because of the atmosphere, as well as those who tune in to watch the games live on Fox Sports.

I know how much effort goes into producing an atmosphere at games because I stood with The Cove throughout Sydney FC’s inaugural campaign, and like most reasonable supporters, I believe that the decision to ban pullover banners at so-called “high risk” games smacks of hypocrisy.

Surely it’s the use of flares which poses the real problem; so why does the FFA employ Hatamoto simply to record fans with video cameras, while little is done to stop fringe elements from bringing flares in to begin with?

My friend and colleague Jesse Fink was scathing in his criticism of the decision in his column for ESPN Star during the week, and I’m inclined to agree with his claim that “FFA will soon be selling a product no one wants to buy.”

At the end of the day, the FFA advocates fan culture through their slick advertisements, yet punishes fans for trying to engage in the real thing come matchday.

And this from a league which has been bleeding fans for the past three seasons, with many active supporters fed up with being treated with disdain by officials happy to take their money so long as their style of support conforms to the template laid down by the likes of Hatamoto.

The whole thing must be desperately frustating for Sydney FC officials, who have worked hard to re-engage with supporters under the auspices of CEO Edwin Lugt.

The experienced Dutchman is a genuine football man, and his backroom staff have worked closely with Sydney supporters to foster the kind of mutually beneficial relations needed for A-League clubs to survive well into the future.

That’s a lesson the FFA would do well to learn, because in their current guise they’re turning away the very same supporters whom they expect to show loyalty to their “product.”
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Re: The A-League doesn’t care about active fans

Postby The Angry Bull » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:05 am

Il Duce wrote:The A-League doesn’t care about active fans

Football Federation Australia’s latest advertising campaign focuses heavily on fan participation. But while FFA officials publicly spruik the wares of active fans, it seems that they’re busy trying to restrict that very same participation behind closed doors.

One of the A-League’s new “fan-made” ads shows an elderly shop assistant unrolling metres of sky blue fabric, before the cutaway reveals the spectacular sight of Sydney FC fans flying their impressive Skyline banner before an A-League match.

That’s a sight you won’t see ahead of the much-anticipated Grand Final rematch between Sydney FC and Melbourne Victory on August 7, if word trickling through from Sydney FC fans is anything to go by.

Following consultation with private security firm Hatamoto, FFA officials have allegedly decided to slap a ban on banner pullovers at “high risk” games, presumably due to the potential risk posed by fans lighting flares underneath flammable material.

But what rankles Sydney supporters is the complete lack of consultation between themselves and the FFA, with members of Sydney’s popular supporters group The Cove accusing “non-football” people of making decisions which clearly affect their matchday affairs.

It’s a trend that we’ve seen across the board in the A-League, and the shadowy involvement of security firm Hatamoto deserves further scrutiny.

In a fabulous piece posted on his blog The Accidental Australian last September, Melbourne Victory supporter Guido wondered if the FFA understands football fans, or whether they’re so caught up in protecting the “brand” that they are at risk of alienating genuine supporters.

It’s those supporters who invest their time and money into creating banners in the first place, but because of the actions of an unruly few, the majority of law-abiding fans – many of whom despise the use of flares – are now being punished.

And it’s not just active fans who lose, but those who turn out at A-League games in part because of the atmosphere, as well as those who tune in to watch the games live on Fox Sports.

I know how much effort goes into producing an atmosphere at games because I stood with The Cove throughout Sydney FC’s inaugural campaign, and like most reasonable supporters, I believe that the decision to ban pullover banners at so-called “high risk” games smacks of hypocrisy.

Surely it’s the use of flares which poses the real problem; so why does the FFA employ Hatamoto simply to record fans with video cameras, while little is done to stop fringe elements from bringing flares in to begin with?

My friend and colleague Jesse Fink was scathing in his criticism of the decision in his column for ESPN Star during the week, and I’m inclined to agree with his claim that “FFA will soon be selling a product no one wants to buy.”

At the end of the day, the FFA advocates fan culture through their slick advertisements, yet punishes fans for trying to engage in the real thing come matchday.

And this from a league which has been bleeding fans for the past three seasons, with many active supporters fed up with being treated with disdain by officials happy to take their money so long as their style of support conforms to the template laid down by the likes of Hatamoto.

The whole thing must be desperately frustating for Sydney FC officials, who have worked hard to re-engage with supporters under the auspices of CEO Edwin Lugt.

The experienced Dutchman is a genuine football man, and his backroom staff have worked closely with Sydney supporters to foster the kind of mutually beneficial relations needed for A-League clubs to survive well into the future.

That’s a lesson the FFA would do well to learn, because in their current guise they’re turning away the very same supporters whom they expect to show loyalty to their “product.”


Fantastic Il Duce... spot on. I love the atmosphere at Hindmarsh on a friday night... until weslo comes along... two games in a row a mate had been booted from the stadium for holding up a banner, mind you he was questioning all things aurelio at the time (But who wasnt)... the next week brought another banner "This is not a protest sign" and was promptly removed and had his season ticket torn up!!!!! Absolute shiv if you ask me.
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Re: The A-League doesn’t care about active fans

Postby Il Duce » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:07 am

Yeah, does you mate happen to be oli who sits down the south end lol
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Re: The A-League doesn’t care about active fans

Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:12 pm

Having seen Hatamoto in action at various Melbourne vs Sydney matches, its a disgrace that the FFA has employed such an organisation, their ridiculously heavy handed tactics are more of a problem and blight on the game than the ''problems'' they are supposed to be preventing ever were, are or will be.
Initially the partnership was top secret but a few people were able to link some thinks up through facebook accounts, trading names and postal addresses etc, then Hatamoto became public knowledge, one of these people who is quite a good mate of mine is currently serving a life ban from FFA events all because he let a few Victory supporters know to watch their behaviour when you notice an idiot in camouflaged cargo shorts nearby.
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