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Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:15 pm
by Hondo
Reverseable trades (right up until lockout) AKA the Heath Shaw trade rule:

http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/?p=205

This will raise some strong debate. Personally I am strongly in favour of it. I think it will reward those coaches who are diligent enough to pay attention to the news wires on Friday afternoons.

Thoughts?

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:52 am
by Alaska
I quite like it. It enables me in my own time to set the three teams up Thursday night/Friday mornings, and still check the media Friday nights and make any changes that may be needed. Rather than have my changes written down taken to the pub, shopping, lost, etc on Fridays and having to ensure that last hour before lockout is again spent on the PC.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:54 am
by Hondo
Exactly, that's why I like it too. It's so frustrating not being able to see trade scenarios in your on-screen team. We are forced off onto spreadsheets or pieces of paper.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:03 pm
by CoverKing
I personally don't like it

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:08 pm
by Rik E Boy
CoverKing wrote:I personally don't like it


Then it must be a good thing. I'm all for it. :lol:

regards,

REB

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:29 am
by macca26
CoverKing wrote:I personally don't like it


Yep, same here. I don't like it.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:06 pm
by CoverKing
Rik E Boy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:I personally don't like it


Then it must be a good thing. I'm all for it. :lol:

regards,

REB


May help you get close to beating me on overall points :lol:

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:32 pm
by Rik E Boy
CoverKing wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
CoverKing wrote:I personally don't like it


Then it must be a good thing. I'm all for it. :lol:

regards,

REB


May help you get close to beating me on overall points :lol:


That's right I knocked you out last year didn't I? ;)

regards,

REB

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:31 am
by Alaska
Cahnege to the time teams will be released next year.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/t ... 1oh70.html

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 1:18 pm
by Q.
Hondo wrote:Reverseable trades (right up until lockout) AKA the Heath Shaw trade rule:

http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/?p=205

This will raise some strong debate. Personally I am strongly in favour of it. I think it will reward those coaches who are diligent enough to pay attention to the news wires on Friday afternoons.

Thoughts?


It's okay, makes the game a bit more idiot-proof.

I'd like to see some sort of visual tool for trading scenarios. Means I could put away the calculator.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:15 pm
by Hondo
I paid the $20 for the SC Gold last year. One of the alleged benefits was a "trade wizard" that was nowhere near as useful as they claimed.

To me a trade wizard allows you to trial trades and have trades suggested in an on-screen mock up. What SC Gold provided was far from that. It was a useless tool.

Other parts of SC Gold were good, just not that part.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:29 pm
by Rik E Boy
Hondo wrote:I paid the $20 for the SC Gold last year. One of the alleged benefits was a "trade wizard" that was nowhere near as useful as they claimed.

To me a trade wizard allows you to trial trades and have trades suggested in an on-screen mock up. What SC Gold provided was far from that. It was a useless tool.

Other parts of SC Gold were good, just not that part.


I've got this Nigerian mate of mine who wants to have a talk with you............ :lol:

regards,

REB

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:56 am
by Hondo
Too late I just ordered SC Platinum sourced from Nigeria for $50 plus $19,950 I agreed to pay to help his son and family get flights to Australia. He will pay me back when he arrives so all is good.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:30 pm
by mickey
Surely the can add an extra sub so u have 1 sub on each line..

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:13 am
by Q.
SuperCoach 2012 rules revealed

SUPERCOACH will be bigger and better than ever in 2012 with a series of new rules to deal with an 18-team competition.

SuperCoaches will have more flexibility than ever to manage their team with reversible trades for the first time, and the ability to trade for players in other positions.

Squads will return to 30 players after a year of expansion to cope with the weekly bye. But coaches will retain the 24 trades they had last season at a maximum of two per week - with one exception. More on that below.

As the AFL expands to 18 teams with the introduction of Greater Western Sydney, SuperCoach private leagues will also feature 18 teams allowing you to take on more mates and win bigger bragging rights.

Private league matches will start in Round 3, allowing two weeks to get your team settled before the real battle begins.

League matches will run from Round 3-19 without a break, with the finals over the last four weeks of the home-and-away season.

That means leagues will continue playing during the AFL bye rounds 11-13, presenting a challenge for coaches with six teams having a rest in each of those weeks.

To help, coaches can make a maximum of three trades during each of these rounds.

In 2012 coaches will also be able be able to hit the "undo" button and reverse trades right up to lockout.

This "Heath Shaw rule" will save coaches from situations like last year's suspension of the Collingwood defender, which occurred on Friday afternoon and caught out thousands of coaches who had traded him in the night before.

Hitting the undo button will reset your squad to its status at the last lockout.

Another innovation will be a big help for coaches especially during the bye rounds.

Coaches will be able to complete two trades at a time - three during the bye rounds. This will come into its own with the use of dual-position players.

Many coaches jumped on board dual-position players (DPP) last season - that is, players who can be selected in more than one position and can be moved on the field during the week.

Next season the new trade screen will allow coaches to swap DPP players for a replacement in any of their available positions, provided you have another DPP player to cover them.

For example, if Brendon Goddard (listed as a midfielder and defender) is in your midfield and you want to trade him out, until now you only had the option of swapping him for another midfielder.

Next year you can trade out Goddard from your midfield, switch another mid/def player (say, Bryce Gibbs) into the middle and trade in a defender.

This presents a whole new set of possibilities and opportunities for smart coaches.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:20 pm
by Trader
Quichey wrote:Next season the new trade screen will allow coaches to swap DPP players for a replacement in any of their available positions, provided you have another DPP player to cover them.

For example, if Brendon Goddard (listed as a midfielder and defender) is in your midfield and you want to trade him out, until now you only had the option of swapping him for another midfielder.

Next year you can trade out Goddard from your midfield, switch another mid/def player (say, Bryce Gibbs) into the middle and trade in a defender.

This presents a whole new set of possibilities and opportunities for smart coaches.


Are they for real? In the above example, last year all you did was swap Goddard and Gibbs around, then trade Goddard out for a defender. The above change does absolutely nothing for added flexability!!!

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:44 pm
by Hondo
Trader wrote:Are they for real? In the above example, last year all you did was swap Goddard and Gibbs around, then trade Goddard out for a defender. The above change does absolutely nothing for added flexability!!!


I think that is a bad example they used. The example I read was somthing like this:

Grimes (def) is injured
You have Heppell (def/mid) in your mids
Under this new rule, with one trade you could effectively trade Grimes to Bartel

1 - press trade button on Grimes
2 - switch Heppell from mid to the blank spot you now have in defence
3 - trade in Bartel in the blank spot you now have in your mids

That needed 2 trades this season.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:46 pm
by Hondo
I guess its not a very realistic example though ... I mean what are the chances of Grimes really getting injured?

:d

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:43 pm
by Alaska
The Dream Team example is:

Most interestingly, after coaches became more familiar with the role of the dual position player (DPP) in 2011, coaches will be allowed to move DPPs as part of a trade without having a matching DPP in the other position.

For instance, coaches can elect to trade out a midfielder, such as Collingwood star Dane Swan. If they have a DPP in their group of defenders who is also a midfielder, like St Kilda's Brendon Goddard was in 2011, Goddard can be moved into Swan's position as a midfielder, meaning coaches can effectively trade a defender to replace a midfielder.

Re: Possible rule changes for 2012

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:14 pm
by Sorry Dude
Dustin Martin will be a FWD/MID in season 2012 :lol: