Round 12 Trades and Discussion

[whufc]

Goose out for a month

Might be time for a Hodge upgrade

Whose Goose!

[JK]

Goose out for a month

Might be time for a Hodge upgrade

Whose Goose!

Matt Maguire

[Rik E Boy]

Maguire???

Enright got off at the tribunal, didnt realise he was injured either?

Enright is not injured. Niether is Pods.

regards,

REB

[Q.]

Maguire???

Enright got off at the tribunal, didnt realise he was injured either?

Enright is not injured. Niether is Pods.

regards,

REB

Groin?

[whufc]

What should i do?

I have 12 trades left and have MaGuire in my side, i can use two trades and end up swapping J.Trengove for a player of $100,000 and then MaGuire for Hodge.

Should i do that now or save the 12 trades?

Other catch is this week im playing the second to bottom side who is averaging around 1700 per week while im currently averaging 2100 a week and have a full side playing except MaGuire so i should win you would think.

What do i do?

[Q.]

Get Hodge. You can spare the trades.

[White Line Fever]

I've got 7 trades left, and my aim is to get to Hogg Div V.
To do that, i need to have the highest overall score as possible as REB states (please correct me if i'm wrong here mate) only Premier to Div III is relegation, the rest gets sorted by total points.

So i'm thinking about the following:
LeCras OUT
Daniel Stewart IN (with Tredders out he will play, as my emergency though)
Dangerfield moves from bench to starter.

Maguire OUT
Hodge IN
So i'm getting rid of injured player and upgrading to premium.
Need points NOW and if i run out of trades i won't die wondering!!

[whufc]

I've got 7 trades left, and my aim is to get to Hogg Div V.
To do that, i need to have the highest overall score as possible as REB states (please correct me if i'm wrong here mate) only Premier to Div III is relegation, the rest gets sorted by total points.

So i'm thinking about the following:
LeCras OUT
Daniel Stewart IN (with Tredders out he will play, as my emergency though)
Dangerfield moves from bench to starter.

Maguire OUT
Hodge IN
So i'm getting rid of injured player and upgrading to premium.
Need points NOW and if i run out of trades i won't die wondering!!

Oh really i have just been going for wins week by week not overall score. I thought GF spot gets you promoted.

[White Line Fever]

This is from another thread, i hope i interpreted in right.

You need to make the Grand Final of Hogg II to be promoted to Hogg I. The Hogg is a head to head competition whereas SuperCoach as a whole is a rankings comp. Seeing as the majority of us mere mortals aren't really in the running for the 50k (well, the Mozzies and darcy might be!) it's all about winning your league.

The reason I am keeping a track of overall rankings is for next year. The Piglet will be Division VI at the very highest and a number of coaches will drop out so the rankings will help me decide who goes into some of the middle divisions next year. The only way to get into Hogg Premier, I and II next season is to qualify. We have to show some loyalty to Hogg coaches who have played every season.


regards,

REB

and

If you make the Div V granny you may qualify for Div III if the promoted Piglet coaches do not accept the promotion - this is a fair chance as most of the coaches in that league are not eligible for promotion and it's more of a 'participation' type of league. It also depends on numbers. For example some Div III coaches from last year are now in Hogg Division I.

regards,

REB

Also, thanks Q for showing me how to do this, it's great!

[Rik E Boy]

Maguire???

Enright got off at the tribunal, didnt realise he was injured either?

Enright is not injured. Niether is Pods.

regards,

REB

Groin?

Pods is fine mate. Heard it from the man himself during On the Slouch on Monday. He'll be right to go against the Bombers.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

This is from another thread, i hope i interpreted in right.

You need to make the Grand Final of Hogg II to be promoted to Hogg I. The Hogg is a head to head competition whereas SuperCoach as a whole is a rankings comp. Seeing as the majority of us mere mortals aren't really in the running for the 50k (well, the Mozzies and darcy might be!) it's all about winning your league.

The reason I am keeping a track of overall rankings is for next year. The Piglet will be Division VI at the very highest and a number of coaches will drop out so the rankings will help me decide who goes into some of the middle divisions next year. The only way to get into Hogg Premier, I and II next season is to qualify. We have to show some loyalty to Hogg coaches who have played every season.


regards,

REB

and

If you make the Div V granny you may qualify for Div III if the promoted Piglet coaches do not accept the promotion - this is a fair chance as most of the coaches in that league are not eligible for promotion and it's more of a 'participation' type of league. It also depends on numbers. For example some Div III coaches from last year are now in Hogg Division I.

regards,

REB

Also, thanks Q for showing me how to do this, it's great!

A bit more info. Div III 2010 will be...

2 teams relegated from Div II
Teams ranked 3-12 in this years Div III
Winners of relegation finals (i.e. Round 19: 13 vs. 16 and 14 vs. 15)
2 Highest eligible Div IV teams unless they have not accepted promotion which would then equate to the highest RANKING sides from teams in Division V and Division VI.


regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

According to the rules above the teams vying for Division III promotion would be

Kiwi Krappers (2nd in Piglet)
The Underdogs (4th in Piglet, ranked in the top ten overall)

With

Cork in the Ocean
Longwood Lions

to be promoted to Division III if Krappers and Underdogs chose not to be promoted.

regards,

REB

[cossi11]

i missed out on joining a DT league from this site but want to get in on it next season, how are the divs worked out?? do i need to start at the bottom and work my way up?

[White Line Fever]

According to the rules above the teams vying for Division III promotion would be

Kiwi Krappers (2nd in Piglet)
The Underdogs (4th in Piglet, ranked in the top ten overall)

With

Cork in the Ocean
Longwood Lions

to be promoted to Division III if Krappers and Underdogs chose not to be promoted.

regards,

REB

So the highest I could possibly go, assuming I start going abit better than now, is Div V (i'm in VI now) and what do I need to do to achieve that?

[Rik E Boy]

According to the rules above the teams vying for Division III promotion would be

Kiwi Krappers (2nd in Piglet)
The Underdogs (4th in Piglet, ranked in the top ten overall)

With

Cork in the Ocean
Longwood Lions

to be promoted to Division III if Krappers and Underdogs chose not to be promoted.

regards,

REB

So the highest I could possibly go, assuming I start going abit better than now, is Div V (i'm in VI now) and what do I need to do to achieve that?

All of Div V is going to be dropped to about Div VI so that make Div IV your next target if you can't catch Corky or the Lions. The way to do that mate is score points!

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

i missed out on joining a DT league from this site but want to get in on it next season, how are the divs worked out?? do i need to start at the bottom and work my way up?

Gidday cossi. The problem with an established divisional system is where to place new coaches who have had some previous experience. What I did this year was to get people to send me their rankings from the previous season and I would try to match them up with others of the same ability.

The only thing is that loyalty must be shown to existing Hogg coaches who have had to win their way into a particular league. If say we get two new leagues next season experienced coaches would go in one league and the newbies in the next.

One thing that will never happen is that a new coach will be sent an invite to join Hogg Premier League. Next year perhaps the highest a new coach could expect to be invited to would be Hogg Division II.

BTW, Hogg Shield is SuperCoach and not Dream Team. As far as the Dream Team is sorted it's first come first served with no rankings system. A Mum runs that one.

regards,

REB

[Q.]

With Ben Howlett omitted (not even an emergency this week!) it makes the call trade him out for Gysberts a little easier - if Gysberts is selected.

[Dutchy]

Hooray Shoey, Kennelly and Hitchy all back....no Hargrave though

[Dutchy]

ROUND 12

All times local

Friday June 11
North Melbourne v Carlton at Etihad Stadium, 7.40pm

Saturday June 12
Hawthorn v Adelaide at Aurora Stadium, 2.10pm
Essendon v Geelong Cats at Etihad Stadium, 7.10pm
Port Adelaide v Sydney Swans at AAMI Stadium, 7.10pm

Sunday June 13
Richmond v West Coast at the MCG, 1.10pm
Western Bulldogs v Brisbane Lions at Etihad Stadium, 2.10pm
Fremantle v St Kilda at Subiaco Oval, 2.40pm

Monday June 14
Melbourne v Collingwood at the MCG, 2.10pm

NORTH MELBOURNE v CARLTON
North Melbourne
B: Michael Firrito, Scott Thompson, Brady Rawlings
HB: Scott McMahon, Nathan Grima, Daniel Pratt
C: Jack Ziebell, Cruize Garlett, Ryan Bastinac
HF: Ben Cunnington, Lachlan Hansen, Brent Harvey
F: Daniel Wells, Todd Goldstein, Lindsay Thomas
Foll: Hamish McIntosh, Andrew Swallow, Levi Greenwood
I/C: Ed Lower, Matt Campbell, Ben Warren, Sam Wright
Emg: Nathan O'Keefe, Gavin Urquhart, Aaron Edwards

In: Warren
Out: David Hale (back)

Carlton
B: Aaron Joseph, Michael Jamison, Bret Thornton
HB: Jordan Russell, Andrew Walker, Steven Browne
C: Kade Simpson, Chris Judd, Heath Scotland
HF: Jeff Garlett, Jarrad Waite, Ryan Houlihan
F: Matthew Kreuzer, Setanta O'hAilpin, Eddie Betts
Foll: Sam Jacobs, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy
I/C: Dennis Armfield, Andrew Carrazzo, Richard Hadley, Mitch Robinson
Emg: Lachie Henderson, Kane Lucas, Brock McLean

In: Armfield
Out: Joe Anderson

HAWTHORN v ADELAIDE
Hawthorn
B: Brent Guerra, Stephen Gilham, Thomas Murphy
HB: Rick Ladson, Ben Stratton, Grant Birchall
C: Jordan Lewis, Sam Mitchell, Xavier Ellis
HF: Shaun Burgoyne, Lance Franklin, Michael Osborne
F: Carl Peterson, Jarryd Roughead, Cyril Rioli
Foll: Brent Renouf, Luke Hodge, Brad Sewell
I/C: Beau Muston, Ryan Schoenmakers, Wayde Skipper, Brendan Whitecross
Emg: Jordan Lisle, Garry Moss, Matt Suckling

In: Franklin, Muston, Schoenmakers
Out: Chance Bateman (susp), Clinton Young (quad), Liam Shiels (quad)

Adelaide
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Brad Symes
HB: Michael Doughty, Nathan Bock, Simon Goodwin
C: Rory Sloane, Nathan van Berlo, David Mackay
HF: Jared Petrenko, Taylor Walker, Richard Douglas
F: Patrick Dangerfield, Kurt Tippett, Scott Stevens
Foll: Ivan Maric, Scott Thompson, Brent Reilly
I/C: Jonathon Griffin, Tony Armstrong, Jason Porplyzia, Ricky Henderson
Emg: Myke Cook, James Sellar, Chris Schmidt

In: Bock, Symes, Henderson
Out: Phil Davis (shoulder), Andrew McLeod (knee), Tyson Edwards (retired)

ESSENDON v GEELONG CATS
Essendon
B: Henry Slattery, Tayte Pears, David Myers
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Dustin Fletcher, Mark McVeigh
C: Heath Hocking, Jobe Watson, Jason Winderlich
HF: Brent Stanton, Scott Gumbleton, Sam Lonergan
F: Leroy Jetta, Michael Hurley, David Zaharakis
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Andrew Welsh, Jake Melksham
I/C: Alwyn Davey, Thomas Bellchambers, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Ricky Dyson
Emg: Brent Prismall, Bachar Houli, Jarrod Atkinson

In: Bellchambers, Dyson, Stanton, Slattery, Fletcher
Out: David Hille (hamstring), Angus Monfries (hamstring), Ben Howlett, Jarrod Atkinson, Brent Prismall

Geelong Cats
B: Josh Hunt, Tom Lonergan, Andrew Mackie
HB: Corey Enright, Harry Taylor, Darren Milburn
C: James Kelly, Cameron Ling, Jimmy Bartel
HF: Steve Johnson, James Podsiadly, Travis Varcoe
F: Mathew Stokes, Trent West, Gary Ablett
Foll: Mark Blake, Joel Selwood, Paul Chapman
I/C: Shannon Byrnes, Taylor Hunt, David Wojcinski, Simon Hogan
Emg: Ryan Gamble, Mitch Duncan, Tom Gillies

In: West, Ling
Out: Cameron Mooney (ankle), Dawson Simpson

PORT ADELAIDE v SYDNEY SWANS
Port Adelaide
B: Jacob Surjan, Alipate Carlile, Troy Chaplin
HB: Paul Stewart, Chad Cornes, Steven Salopek
C: Jay Nash, Domenic Cassisi, Travis Boak
HF: Matt Thomas, Jack Trengove, David Rodan
F: Brett Ebert, Daniel Motlop, Tom Logan
Foll: Dean Brogan, Danyle Pearce, Kane Cornes
I/C: Jason Davenport, Hamish Hartlett, Daniel Stewart, Cameron Hitchcock
Emg: Matthew Lobbe, Danny Meyer, Josh Carr

In: Hitchcock
Out: Matthew Broadbent

Sydney Swans
B: Rhyce Shaw, Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Nick Smith
HB: Martin Mattner, Heath Grundy, Tadhg Kennelly
C: Nick Malceski, Brett Kirk, Gary Rohan
HF: Ryan O'Keefe, Adam Goodes, Josh Kennedy
F: Daniel Hannebery, Jesse White, Kieren Jack
Foll: Shane Mumford, Jude Bolton, Jarrad McVeigh
I/C: Paul Bevan, Craig Bird, Ben McGlynn, Mike Pyke
Emg: Matt O'Dwyer, Ted Richards, Patrick Veszpremi

In: Kennelly, McGlynn
Out: Henry Playfair (soreness), Lewis Jetta





RICHMOND v WEST COAST
Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Jake King
HB: Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio, Daniel Connors
C: Ben Cousins, Daniel Jackson, Shane Edwards
HF: Matt White, Jack Riewoldt, Ben Nason
F: Richard Tambling, Ben Griffiths, David Astbury
Foll: Angus Graham, Trent Cotchin, Dustin Martin
I/C (from): Mitch Farmer, Jeromey Webberley, Will Thursfield, Andrew Collins, Tyrone Vickery, Robin Nahas, Kelvin Moore

In: Moore, Jackson, Connors, Vickery, Griffiths
Out: Mitch Morton, Troy Simmonds (retired)

West Coast
B: Scott Selwood, Eric Mackenzie, Will Schofield
HB: Beau Waters, Beau Wilkes, Shannon Hurn
C: Andrew Embley, Matt Priddis, Bradd Dalziell
HF: Brad Sheppard, Josh Kennedy, Ben McKinley
F: Nic Naitanui, Mitchell Brown, Mark LeCras
Foll: Dean Cox, Brad Ebert, Tom Swift
I/C (from): Brett Jones, Quinten Lynch, Patrick McGinnity, Mark Nicoski, Matt Rosa, Adam Selwood, Lewis Stevenson

In: Lynch, Nicoski, Jones, McGinnity
Out: Sam Butler (foot)

WESTERN BULLDOGS v BRISBANE LIONS
Western Bulldogs
B: Jarrod Harbrow, Dale Morris, Tom Williams
HB: Easton Wood, Brian Lake, Lindsay Gilbee
C: Ryan Griffen, Matthew Boyd, Liam Picken
HF: Brennan Stack, Mitch Hahn, Robert Murphy
F: Jarrad Grant, Barry Hall, Daniel Giansiracusa
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Daniel Cross
I/C (from): Dylan Addison, Nathan Eagleton, Andrejs Everitt, Josh Hill, Will Minson, Brodie Moles, Sam Reid

In: Everitt, Reid, Wood, Murphy
Out: Shaun Higgins (ankle)

FREMANTLE v ST KILDA
Fremantle
B: Byron Schammer, Chris Tarrant, Kepler Bradley
HB: Antoni Grover, Adam McPhee, Roger Hayden
C: Garrick Ibbotson, David Mundy, Anthony Morabito
HF: Jay van Berlo, Matthew Pavlich, Stephen Hill
F: Ryan Crowley, Alex Silvagni, Hayden Ballantyne
Foll: Aaron Sandilands, Michael Barlow, Paul Duffield
I/C (from): Nick Suban, Nathan Fyfe, Clancee Pearce, Rhys Palmer, Zac Clarke, Tim Ruffles, Matthew de Boer

In: Schammer, Ruffles, Silvagni, Pearce, Clarke
Out: Steven Dodd, Chris Mayne (ankle)

St Kilda
B: Steven Baker, Jason Blake, Sam Gilbert
HB: Raphael Clarke, Sam Fisher, James Gwilt
C: Brendon Goddard, Nick Dal Santo, Farren Ray
HF: Clinton Jones, Justin Koschitzke, Adam Schneider
F: Brett Peake, Ben McEvoy, Stephen Milne
Foll: Michael Gardiner, Lenny Hayes, Leigh Montagna
I/C (from): Robert Eddy, Jarryn Geary, Andrew McQualter, Alistair Smith, Adam Pattison, Nick Heyne, Rhys Stanley

In: Pattison, Heyne, Smith
Out: -

New: Alistair Smith (Perth)

MELBOURNE v COLLINGWOOD
Melbourne
B: Clint Bartram, Matthew Warnock, James Frawley
HB: Cameron Bruce, Jared Rivers, Jack Grimes
C: Colin Sylvia, Jack Trengove, Tom Scully
HF: Neville Jetta, Matthew Bate, Lynden Dunn
F: Brad Green, Brad Miller, Aaron Davey
Foll: Mark Jamar, Brent Moloney, Jordie McKenzie
I/C (from): Colin Garland, Cale Morton, Jordan Gysberts, Nathan Jones, Jack Watts, Paul Johnson, Jamie Bennell

In: Johnson, Dunn, Frawley, McKenzie
Out: James McDonald (hamstring)

Collingwood
B: Heath Shaw, Simon Prestigiacomo, Leigh Brown
HB: Harry O’Brien, Nick Maxwell, Alan Toovey
C: Sharrod Wellingham, Dane Swan, Steele Sidebottom
HF: Paul Medhurst, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak
F: Dayne Beams, Brent Macaffer, Leon Davis
Foll: Darren Jolly, Scott Pendlebury, Dale Thomas
I/C (from): Jaxson Barham, Chris Dawes, Josh Fraser, Tyson Goldsack, Tarkyn Lockyer, Shane O'Bree, Ben Reid

In: Barham, Dawes, Goldsack, Lockyer, O’Bree
Out: Luke Ball (groin), Ben Johnson (ankle)

Richmond, West Coast, the Western Bulldogs, the Brisbane Lions, Fremantle and St Kilda will name their final sides (22 plus three emergencies) from 5pm AEST on Friday.

Melbourne and Collingwood will name theirs at 4pm AEST on Saturday.
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[CoverKing]

Kennelly back in saves me from a zero this week! With 9 trades left im considering downgrading Lewis Jetta to Gysberts but unsure of that. Will give me 100k or there abouts, enough to allow me to upgrade both Maguire and Kennelly to Heath Shaw and Carrazzo, or upgrade one of them to Enright or someone around that price!