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Saw an interesting program on VH1 the other week about when this music started becoming mainstream in the early '80's.
Said that the song "Rappers Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang was considered the forerunner to this music with the track "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five (U Legs and I are very familiar with this number ) being considered the first mainstream track that was telling the world about the ills of inner city ghetto life in the US, although those of you who may remember Gil Scott-Heron could say that he was this type of artist in the early '70's.
Had some interesting stories on artists like LL Cool J, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, NWA, Public Enemy, Lionel Richie amongst others and also touched on the burgeoning influence of "sampling" in this period.

I believe that 'Rappers Delight' was featured on 'The Wedding Singer' movie.

Technically, the first recorded rap song was 'King Tim III (Personality Jock)' by the Fatback Band.

It's a popular misconception that 'Rapper's Delight' started it all. It was nothing more than a novelty disco record put together by Slyvia Robinson of Sugar Hill Records to cash in on the growing popularity of the late 1970s New York underground rap scene.

The three MCs - Big Bank Hank, Wonder Mike and Master Gee - had never rapped before. The rhymes were written by legendary old school MC Grandmaster Caz.

Hip-hop's modern roots (it goes way back through The Last Poets, call and response, toasting, signifying, Cab Calloway and so on) lie in the block parties thrown by DJs like Herc, Hollywood, Flash and Afrika Bambaataa. MCs would get on the mike and drop a verse over a breakbeat.

'Rapper's Delight' is as big a joke in the hip-hop world as Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer and Wil Smith.

Locally, we have even bigger jokes like Joel Turner, Figg Kidd and Weapon X and Ken Hell.

Magpiespower wrote:
Locally, we have even bigger jokes like Joel Turner, Figg Kidd and Weapon X and Ken Hell.

Weapon X and Ken Hell , have you even heard the Scar-non mixtapes?

Hip Hop Show with the Hilltop Hoods - Mon 21 August @ 10:00pm

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:Weapon X and Ken Hell , have you even heard the Scar-non mixtapes?

Nah, Sam, I haven't.

To be honest, I can't stand these wiggers.

The stuff they release is pretty crap, but the mixtapes are really good.

My Humps - My Subs
Drop it like its hot - Drive It Like Its Hot
Still Dre - Still HSV
Right Thurr - Nike Urr

its pretty funny stuff, im downloading the 3rd installment right now (released today), number 2 (Sickc*ntion Luncheon) is the better one of the 1st 2.

you can download them for free from http://www.illflow.com you have to register 1st though.

Gilly wrote:Hip Hop Show with the Hilltop Hoods - Mon 21 August @ 10:00pm

My old man is a muso in the Folk and Blues scene and he couldn't believe that the Hilltop Hoods got a gig at the Byron Bay Blues festival earlier this year. I asked him what they were like? ******* Shithouse. Money well saved I reckon.

regards,

REB

Hill Top Hoods are good - but where do they fit into folk?????

If you go through toasting as being the origin of Hip-hop, you might as well go right back to Africa where it all started!

Anyone wanna play the dozens??

I'm not all that keen on new American hip-hop right now, take me back to the days when NWA, Public Enemy and Ice Cube were king.

Doing real rap, not merged to make it sound urban.

Anyone remember Third Bass?

I've been listening to an Adelaide hip hop group of late who I like - A Devil Amongst the Tailors.

And if anyone mentions Black Eyed Peas as hip- hop, I'm a gonna hunt you down!

FYI, Ice Cube has released a new album in the last couple of months, not as good as the earlier stuff, but still worth a look.

OK, yo all want the best.This next one is the best rapper I've ever heard. Do a google on Denny Blaze. You won't be dissapointed. 'Average Homeboy' kiks sum serious ass!
HAHA. Go to his home page , click on - catch a sample. then click on 'Average Homeboy' not the remix. Yooooool luv it. Its TTM. (to the max!)

Yeah, Cube has released an album recently, as has PE. But.....they're not what they used to be. Gee I sound old!

Sorry, REB - no bogans allowed in this thread.

Dogwatcher wrote: I'm not all that keen on new American hip-hop right now, take me back to the days when NWA, Public Enemy and Ice Cube were king.

Ah yes...1988-1992, the Golden Age of hip-hop.

EPMD and the Hit Squad, LL, KRS and Boogie Down, Quest, De La, Kane, Eric B & Rakim, Slick Rick, Kool G. Rap...

Not a fan of the now school.

Prefer Aussie stuff at the moment.

Anyone remember Third Bass?

Gets the gas face!

BDP are the freshest thing...world wide

Two members of the Boo Ya Tribe are coming to play in Loxton next week - which is pretty cool.

Magpiespower wrote:Technically, the first recorded rap song was 'King Tim III (Personality Jock)' by the Fatback Band.

It's a popular misconception that 'Rapper's Delight' started it all. It was nothing more than a novelty disco record put together by Slyvia Robinson of Sugar Hill Records to cash in on the growing popularity of the late 1970s New York underground rap scene.

'Rapper's Delight' is as big a joke in the hip-hop world as Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer and Wil Smith.

Should have included the word "mainstream" about Rappers Delight.
Was touched upon in the show about being frowned upon by those in the industry.

ORDoubleBlues wrote:
Should have included the word "mainstream" about Rappers Delight.
Was touched upon in the show about being frowned upon by those in the industry.

Sold over two million records, making a $hitload of money, hardly any of which anyone outside Mr. and Mrs. Robinson saw.

Karma caught up with them in the end when Sugar Hill went broke.

'Rapper's Delight' has the distinction of being the first rap song to chart - #39 with a bullet!

Dogwatcher wrote: I'm not all that keen on new American hip-hop right now, take me back to the days when NWA, Public Enemy and Ice Cube were king.

Ah yes...1988-1992, the Golden Age of hip-hop.

EPMD and the Hit Squad, LL, KRS and Boogie Down, Quest, De La, Kane, Eric B & Rakim, Slick Rick, Kool G. Rap...

Not a fan of the now school.


thats cause the new school isnt rap is pop e.g. nelly and ja rule do duets,
as krs-one sings "nelly you anit for, you anit universal, you whole style sounds like a n-sync commerical"

Bliss N Eso will be @ Fowlers Live this Friday night on North Tce.

tickets from $16.80

anyone know what they are like on ID @ Fowlers?

Magpiespower wrote:Ah yes...1988-1992, the Golden Age of hip-hop.

EPMD and the Hit Squad, LL, KRS and Boogie Down, Quest, De La, Kane, Eric B & Rakim, Slick Rick, Kool G. Rap...

I was happy to see that "3 feet high and rising" by De La Soul made list in the Age newspaper of the 50 most influential albums of all time (Must admit I can't remember whose opinion it was but I'm pretty sure it wasn't just one person's opinion).
Their follow up to that (De La Soul is dead) seems to have gotten better with age as well.