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File-sharing can be expensive....

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:30 am
by JAS
You know sometimes it might be better just to admit your guilt and pay up...bit of difference between a bill for £1500 and one for £1.2m...

Regards
JAS

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/techn ... 108589.stm

A woman has been ordered to pay $1.9 million (£1.2m) in the only file-sharing case to go to trial in the US.

A jury in Minnesota ruled Jammie Thomas-Rasset, 32, had violated music copyright and must pay damages to the record industry.

The mother of four from Minnesota was accused of illegally sharing 24 songs from artists including Sheryl Crow and Green Day.

Outside the courtroom Thomas-Rasset said the damages were "ridiculous".

It was the second time record companies had taken Thomas-Rasset to court. The first trial ended without a verdict.

A spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America said the companies were willing to settle out of court for a much smaller amount.

"Since day one we have been willing to settle this case and we remain willing to do so," said Cara Duckworth from the RIAA.

Previous cases

Most people targeted by the music industry had settled for around £1,500 each.

It is not clear if Thomas-Rasset plans to appeal against the decision.

This case was the only one of more than 30,000 similar lawsuits to make it to trial.

Record companies accused Thomas-Rasset of uploading 1,700 songs to the Kazaa file-sharing site before it became a legal service.

In court she described herself as a "huge music fan".

Defence lawyers argued companies could not prove that she was sharing the songs, suggesting her children or ex-husband may have done it.

Companies including Sony, BMI, Universal and Warner Music say they are now concentrating on working with internet service providers to crack down on the worst offenders of file-sharing.

Online piracy has been blamed for a decline in music sales in recent years.

Thomas-Rasset said she has no means of paying the fine: "There's no way they're ever going to get that.

"I'm a mom, limited means, so I'm not going to worry about it now."

Re: File-sharing can be expensive....

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:06 am
by gadj1976
hence I've started using Legalsounds.com... but I can't for the life of me see how you can be charged that amount. The way I see it, if manufacturers of products that allow taping/recording or reproducing music, video, anything, create these products, then they are more liable than we are.

Re: File-sharing can be expensive....

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:34 am
by Interceptor
A sad reflection really on the clowns in the jury who decided the "damages" were worth that much :roll:
Not to mention the RIAA themselves.

Locally, we may see an attempt at a shake up of file sharing activities as a result of industry and government action.
ISP iiNet are in the middle of a court case brought on by a media industry group.
They are attempting to make iiNet liable for their customers activities, which is like trying to make Telstra liable for conversations over the phone about illegal activities.
Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

Re: File-sharing can be expensive....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:09 am
by JAS
...and another one gets stung...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8177285.stm

Not $1.9million this time but he's a student so probably might as well be.

Regards
JAS

Re: File-sharing can be expensive....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:34 am
by zipzap
gadj1976 wrote:hence I've started using Legalsounds.com...


But from what I understand there is nothing 'legal' about it, the artists don't get paid, it doesn't have support of artists or labels and you're effectively paying for files that are no more legit than those nicked off Limewire. Legalsounds exists because of a loophole in Russian law (man, I don't want to give my CC details to a shady Russian company anyway, call me crazy) which makes it legal there but not necessarily so in the countries it services. Use iTunes or something similar if you want to sleep well at night.