Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby fisho mcspaz » Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:17 am

I seem to recall Tool playing a whole bunch of stuff I'd never heard before, but I just really like Tool regardless so I thought it was awesome.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Gozu » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:33 am

heater31 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Pat Malone wrote:Silverchair don't really do any frogstomp, smashing pumpkins at v festival didn't anything besides their new cd.

Yeah, is carp that they don't. It's heaps better than their more recent stuff.


Daniel Johns is on record somewhere that he doesn't like that stuff anymore. I think he has a point too they were 14/15 years old when that album was written/recorded and now their music has evolved with time.

The band have moved on from the hard grunge to more easy listening music and with most albums selling well they must have some people who like their music


I think Silverchair might still play Israel's Son from Frogstomp but they refuse to play Tomorrow. Stopped playing it in the late 90's. Unfortunately they're just a niche pop rock band these days and while still reasonably popular here are almost unknown overseas these days. Their most popular album was Frogstomp and each successive album has sold less than the previous one.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Q. » Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:42 am

Don't think much of silverchair, but I'll admit that I really like 'The Door'.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby RustyCage » Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:01 am

The Silverchair thing is a shame, it would be great to hear Madman, Findaway, Suicidal Dream, Shade......

http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/features/8451/

Young Modern definitely satisfies Johns’ goal of making an “eccentric, psychedelic pop album with rock and roll elements”. It’s light years ahead of the band’s teen angst-ridden records Frogstomp and Freak Show. “To me, I honestly feel like our first record was Neon Ballroom,” admits Johns. “I’ve never felt any different. I don’t feel like our first two albums were Silverchair: that’s our teenage high school band. I don’t like them at all. I listen to them and go ‘That’s cute’, especially the first one, because Frogstomp we were 14. But the second one we’re like 16, I’m like ‘You’re getting older. You’re running out of chances’. Everyone in any band, no matter how good or how cool they’re believed to be, has got some kind of dark, high school band skeleton in their closet


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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby The Dark Knight » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:01 pm

Gozu wrote:
heater31 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Pat Malone wrote:Silverchair don't really do any frogstomp, smashing pumpkins at v festival didn't anything besides their new cd.

Yeah, is carp that they don't. It's heaps better than their more recent stuff.


Daniel Johns is on record somewhere that he doesn't like that stuff anymore. I think he has a point too they were 14/15 years old when that album was written/recorded and now their music has evolved with time.

The band have moved on from the hard grunge to more easy listening music and with most albums selling well they must have some people who like their music


I think Silverchair might still play Israel's Son from Frogstomp but they refuse to play Tomorrow. Stopped playing it in the late 90's. Unfortunately they're just a niche pop rock band these days and while still reasonably popular here are almost unknown overseas these days. Their most popular album was Frogstomp and each successive album has sold less than the previous one.

Tomorrow was their first single and was overplayed IMO. Israel's Son is my favourite song of theirs and is a much better song than Tomorrow.

Silverchair has changed so much over the years and have gone through so many genres it's not funny-
Grunge/Hard Rock,
Rock,
Alternative Rock,
Alternative,
and now Pop.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby CK » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:15 pm

Gozu wrote:
heater31 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Pat Malone wrote:Silverchair don't really do any frogstomp, smashing pumpkins at v festival didn't anything besides their new cd.

Yeah, is carp that they don't. It's heaps better than their more recent stuff.


Daniel Johns is on record somewhere that he doesn't like that stuff anymore. I think he has a point too they were 14/15 years old when that album was written/recorded and now their music has evolved with time.

The band have moved on from the hard grunge to more easy listening music and with most albums selling well they must have some people who like their music


I think Silverchair might still play Israel's Son from Frogstomp but they refuse to play Tomorrow. Stopped playing it in the late 90's. Unfortunately they're just a niche pop rock band these days and while still reasonably popular here are almost unknown overseas these days. Their most popular album was Frogstomp and each successive album has sold less than the previous one.


I heartily wish that "Straight Lines" was among the songs they'd retire from their playlist, as well as radio :?
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby fisho mcspaz » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:36 pm

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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby mickey » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:53 pm

Pat Malone wrote:Silverchair don't really do any frogstomp, smashing pumpkins at v festival didn't anything besides their new cd.


At their concert here last year, Corgan basically abused the crowd who wanted the old hits played... was a disapointing concert, especially for some1 who isnt a die hard fan...
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Gozu » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:41 pm

CK wrote:I heartily wish that "Straight Lines" was among the songs they'd retire from their playlist, as well as radio :?


I started to lose interest in Silverchair around the time of Diorama but knew the band was dead to me as soon as I first heard Straight Lines. I still consider Freak Show an excellent album and there's some pretty good songs on Neon Ballroom. They're just the Daniel Johns Trio now anyway.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby southee » Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 pm

Silverchair now are one of the most self absurbed, pretentious artists of there.

I love the band The Church - who probably can be described the same......but they can pull it off. :prayer:

I remember when they released "Young Modern" I remember Molly Meldrum describing it as "better than Sgt. Pepper"....... :lol:

As soon as Paul Mac came into the picture with Siverchair it was the nail in their own coffin.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby CK » Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:04 pm

southee wrote:Silverchair now are one of the most self absurbed, pretentious artists of there.

I love the band The Church - who probably can be described the same......but they can pull it off. :prayer:

I remember when they released "Young Modern" I remember Molly Meldrum describing it as "better than Sgt. Pepper"....... :lol:

As soon as Paul Mac came into the picture with Siverchair it was the nail in their own coffin.


It's not even better than Dr Pepper.

"Young Modern" is far too overblown and heavily produced to be taken seriously, IMHO. "Diorama" was the last of their better material. How "Straight Lines" won ARIA Song Of The Year is completely beyond me, that's up there with Madison Avenue winning that same award.

Back to the topic at hand, Supertramp are not able to play some of their best known material, since Roger Hodgson left the band. "The Logical Song", "Take The Long Way Home" and "Give A Little Bit" are among those that the current lineup virtually never play, for a number of reasons.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Interceptor » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:28 pm

When Creedence Clearwater Revival broke up in 1972, John Fogerty still owed the label (Fantasy) that had royally screwed him over, a further 8 albums.
He eventually traded his rights to the CCR back catalog for a release to that contract in 1980.

Releasing solo albums in the 80's Fogerty refused to play the CCR songs that made him famous, partly blaiming performance royalties.
Unbelievably he was also sued by Fantasy for plagiarism, where they claimed "Old Man Down the Road" was a blatant rewrite of Fogerty's own song "Run Through the Jungle". Fogerty was cleared by a jury.

Fogerty ended his 15 year public ban on CCR songs in 1987.
He eventually regained the CCR rights in 2004 following the sale of Fantasy Records.

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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby CK » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:38 pm

Interceptor wrote:When Creedence Clearwater Revival broke up in 1972, John Fogerty still owed the label (Fantasy) that had royally screwed him over, a further 8 albums.
He eventually traded his rights to the CCR back catalog for a release to that contract in 1980.

Releasing solo albums in the 80's Fogerty refused to play the CCR songs that made him famous, partly blaiming performance royalties.
Unbelievably he was also sued by Fantasy for plagiarism, where they claimed "Old Man Down the Road" was a blatant rewrite of Fogerty's own song "Run Through the Jungle". Fogerty was cleared by a jury.
Fogerty ended his 15 year public ban on CCR songs in 1987.
He eventually regained the CCR rights in 2004 following the sale of Fantasy Records.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creedence#John_Fogerty


That case remains one of the most astonishing music legal cases to ever make it to court. As Fogerty said - you can't plagarise yourself.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby JAS » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:57 pm

Back home in the late '70s Scaffold put on an openair concert at the end of a big weekend charity fete/fair that I'd been working at as a volunteer.

They absolutely refused point blank to play their No 1 hit Lily The Pink even though the crowd were going nuts screaming for it...announced they'd become sick to death of playing it and that was it. Everyone, of course, thought they must be kidding and keeping it until the encore but nope they never played it...played their other well known one 'Thank You Very Much'.

I suppose you can't blame some artists for getting sick of their own material afterall how quickly do we getting sick of a new song we thought was great the first few times we heard it when it gets played repeatedly on the radio these days.

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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Leaping Lindner » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:15 pm

Chris Bailey with various incarnations of The Saints refused to play I'm Stranded for years. It got to the point where at a gig in Sydney in 1986 The Saints were supporting The Damned and Bailey got into a full blown verbal brawl with the audience. When The Damned heard this they opened their set with I'm Stranded 8) .
My wife and I saw them (well Chris Bailey and backing band ;) )at The Corner in 2005 and he played Stranded, Erotic Neurotic, Know your Product and all the classic old stuff, so that self imposed band seems to have been lifted.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby MatteeG » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:58 pm

Leaping Lindner wrote:My wife and I saw them (well Chris Bailey and backing band ;) )at The Corner in 2005 and he played Know your Product


Worth the price of admission just to see that one i reakon....
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Baron Greenback » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:55 am

Mr66 wrote:How often does Pearl Jam do "Alive"?


Quite often actually, thank god! :D
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby Baron Greenback » Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:56 am

Quichey wrote:Don't think much of silverchair, but I'll admit that I really like 'The Door'.


I reckon that's their best song Q-man.
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:15 pm

pafc1870 wrote:Foo Fighters don't play Big Me anymore

They don't play much from their first album "Foo Fighters" at all, apart from "This is a Call".
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Re: Artists that stop playing their most familiar material

Postby The Jack » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:29 pm

fisho mcspaz wrote:Bob Dylan


Were you at the Dylan concert at the Ent Cent around the time of the movie starring Denzel Washington, "Hurricane" came out, obviously featuring that song and he wouldn't play it? Or anything else that anyone knew! And if we did, it was re-arranged to the point of being almost unrecognizable. Paul Kelly supported, and he did the same thing! Most frustrating concert I've ever been to! Dylan gave the crowd absolutely nothing between songs as well. The guy behind me stood up and yelled out at one stage "Talk to us, you dickhead!" Very grumpy old man, only in it for the money now, was the impression I got. :-q
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