Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:i cannot stand any of that gothic miserable punk type music.

Gothic & Punk together? Like Nuts & Gum! (The Simpsons- In reply to the fact that Homer is a White Middle Class Male, aged 18-39, everyone listens to him- he supports this by producing a snack pack that says "Nuts & Gum together at last!") Get some proper punk in ya Sam! Start off with The Clash (Punk in style & ethos), Rancid (although many will debate this), Dead Kennedys ("True" Punk- anti establishment), Misfits (Punk because they didn't fit any other category), Germs (Darby Crash say no more) & of course GG Allin (similar to Darby Crash). Goth music is crap. Many late nights at the Proscenium (RIP) confirmed this for me. Some songs you can start with Sam.... Rancid- Time Bomb, Maxwell Murder, Disgruntled, Corruption, Black Lung. Misfits- All Hell Breaks Loose, Die, Die My Darling, Death Comes Ripping, Bullett, Horror Business. Dead Kennedys- Chemical Warfare, actually, grab the In God We Trust, Inc./Plastic Surgery Disasters cd. GG Allin- God Of Fire In Hell, I Wanna F**k Your Brains Out (both off "EMF"- it stands for Eat My F***....). Perhaps Leaping Lindner could also help to steer you in wise directions...