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SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:41 pm
by The Poacher
I have heard that a clearances will "NOT" be granted to any junior player in the SFL wishing to transfer from one of the lower struggling clubs, to one of the stronger clubs if the stronger club has both a saturday and sunday team. Apparently this is because they already have the numbers and do not need the players, also has something to do with some 3 year rule [this one I'm not sure about]. This also applies to teams that only have a sunday team and/or participate in a different sunday league [this last one wouldn't happen in the SFL would it]. Check the clearances that are pending on the SFL teams clearance listings.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:14 pm
by 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR
Not sure where you heard that one? But its not written in any SFL rule book

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:15 pm
by Mister Footy
The Poacher wrote:I have heard that a clearances will "NOT" be granted to any junior player in the SFL wishing to transfer from one of the lower struggling clubs, to one of the stronger clubs if the stronger club has both a saturday and sunday team. Apparently this is because they already have the numbers and do not need the players, also has something to do with some 3 year rule [this one I'm not sure about]. This also applies to teams that only have a sunday team and/or participate in a different sunday league [this last one wouldn't happen in the SFL would it]. Check the clearances that are pending on the SFL teams clearance listings.


How do you access this SFL clearance list?

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:30 pm
by Waterboy
The Poacher wrote:I have heard that a clearances will "NOT" be granted to any junior player in the SFL wishing to transfer from one of the lower struggling clubs, to one of the stronger clubs if the stronger club has both a saturday and sunday team. Apparently this is because they already have the numbers and do not need the players, also has something to do with some 3 year rule [this one I'm not sure about]. This also applies to teams that only have a sunday team and/or participate in a different sunday league [this last one wouldn't happen in the SFL would it]. Check the clearances that are pending on the SFL teams clearance listings.


Regulation 1 1.2 iii) A Player wishing to be cleared from one a team to a two team club within the S.F.L. can do so with the agreement of his current club only, and the clearance can be referred to the Investigations Committee.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:37 pm
by vics01
WATERBOY
Regulation 1 1.2 iii) A Player wishing to be cleared from one a team to a two team club within the S.F.L. can do so with the agreement of his current club only, and the clearance can be referred to the Investigations Committee.


What about the new issue of clubs fielding 3 teams will the same rule apply???? with 1 to 3 and 2 to 3????

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:43 pm
by The Poacher
vics01 wrote:
WATERBOY
Regulation 1 1.2 iii) A Player wishing to be cleared from one a team to a two team club within the S.F.L. can do so with the agreement of his current club only, and the clearance can be referred to the Investigations Committee.


What about the new issue of clubs fielding 3 teams will the same rule apply???? with 1 to 3 and 2 to 3????

only informing you of a conversation that I had with a high up board member of one of these clubs, if its not accurate then I will apoligies.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:38 pm
by The Poacher
Mister Footy wrote:
The Poacher wrote:I have heard that a clearances will "NOT" be granted to any junior player in the SFL wishing to transfer from one of the lower struggling clubs, to one of the stronger clubs if the stronger club has both a saturday and sunday team. Apparently this is because they already have the numbers and do not need the players, also has something to do with some 3 year rule [this one I'm not sure about]. This also applies to teams that only have a sunday team and/or participate in a different sunday league [this last one wouldn't happen in the SFL would it]. Check the clearances that are pending on the SFL teams clearance listings.


How do you access this SFL clearance list?


go to the menu.
go to LINKS FOR SOUTHERN RESULTS/CLEARANCES.
go to the 1st post.
click on the link for any club.[try the brighton link 1st.].
If you look at the right [from] club you will see about 5 clearances all u16's from the 1 club, these have all gone from pending to denied as of 23.03.2011.
this is what I was told would happen.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:12 pm
by Mister Footy
In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:47 pm
by vics01
MF
In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?


The SFL are HUA with regards to a number of important issues pertaining to the running of the league.

They put their head where the sun dont shine. The SFL board rave on about the Community Football Board not operating within their constitution then do exactly the same thing, or apply the rules as they see not in the true meaning of the rule.

PS: I think they call the new 3rd version junior draw better. I think this was done in the dark as well.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:02 am
by The Poacher
Mister Footy wrote:In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?

I dont know about individual players, I was told, what I thought was something interesting and thought it would be a good subject to bring up on this forum, what I was told is that NO JUNIOR PLAYER would be cleared. All I can say is what I was told seems to be happening, if the clubs board in question has a history of not clearing people on the 1st clearance application, or that the player still owe subs, or that they just like to be difficult, that is a story for another time. I have the same situation as you have stated above coming my way with one of the members of my family. He played for the team, went to another league for a year, wants to now play with his mates at another club, clearance needs to be lodged this week, not expecting it will go easy for him either. [he's 15]

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:10 am
by White Line Fever
Mister Footy wrote:In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?


Tony Lynch played for Marion last year in A grade.
He was contracted so financials I'd assume are not a problem.

Why would his clearance be refused?

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:02 am
by Specky McGee
White Line Fever wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?


Tony Lynch played for Marion last year in A grade.
He was contracted so financials I'd assume are not a problem.

Why would his clearance be refused?


Without knowing the specifics, I can only assume he is being held under the "A junior player must give 3 years senior service before being cleared to another club within the same league" rule.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:37 pm
by woodublieve12
Specky McGee wrote:
White Line Fever wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?


Tony Lynch played for Marion last year in A grade.
He was contracted so financials I'd assume are not a problem.

Why would his clearance be refused?


Without knowing the specifics, I can only assume he is being held under the "A junior player must give 3 years senior service before being cleared to another club within the same league" rule.


worst rule ever... so you'd want someone at your club who doesnt want to be ther??

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 1:58 pm
by Mister Footy
woodublieve12 wrote:
Specky McGee wrote:
White Line Fever wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:In regards to Tony Lynch who has played 1 season in the Under 18s for Marion and then went to play in another league and he now has been refused clearance to Happy Valley. He says he would rather not play than play for Marion. Is the SFL going to insist a player doesnt play or plays in another league? And what happens if Marion cant get enough players for a B grade team? They shouldnt be allowed to put any senior teams in if I am interpretting the rule correctly? What happens to Tony Lynch then?

Tony Lynch played for Marion last year in A grade.
He was contracted so financials I'd assume are not a problem.
Why would his clearance be refused?

Without knowing the specifics, I can only assume he is being held under the "A junior player must give 3 years senior service before being cleared to another club within the same league" rule.

worst rule ever... so you'd want someone at your club who doesnt want to be ther??


I am going to go out on a limb here and say the SFL would rather lose Lynch to another competition than let him play for Valley - maybe they should look at why he doesnt want to be there and jump in to help clubs before it gets to crisis point - maybe Marion also should be looking at seeking help before they get to this position where they are expecting other clubs to bare the consequences of their previous bad decisions and club culture

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:42 pm
by turning circle
Dont know the ins and outs of the Tony Lynch situation.
But i know last year Flagstaff Hill held Adam Stone under the 3 year rule until Marion played them, about round 9, then cleared him.
Marion also have a record of using this rule. With Josh Black wanting to go to Brighton after playing all juniors at Marion. In turn forcing Josh to play at Victor Harbor for 3 years.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:19 pm
by reppoh_eht
turning circle wrote:Dont know the ins and outs of the Tony Lynch situation.
But i know last year Flagstaff Hill held Adam Stone under the 3 year rule until Marion played them, about round 9, then cleared him.
Marion also have a record of using this rule. With Josh Black wanting to go to Brighton after playing all juniors at Marion. In turn forcing Josh to play at Victor Harbor for 3 years.


Adam only had to have a meeting with the A Grade Coach, and he would have been cleared much earlier. He chose not to, and hence was cleared at the latest date possible.

Re: SFL junior clearances

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:52 pm
by Mister Footy
turning circle wrote:Dont know the ins and outs of the Tony Lynch situation.
But i know last year Flagstaff Hill held Adam Stone under the 3 year rule until Marion played them, about round 9, then cleared him.
Marion also have a record of using this rule. With Josh Black wanting to go to Brighton after playing all juniors at Marion. In turn forcing Josh to play at Victor Harbor for 3 years.



Lets hope for Tony Lynch's sake that Marion dont do that as Valley dont play them until mid July
Cmon we are not talking AFL here