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Down the hill football

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:11 am
by Esteban Vihaio
It is roughly 25 square kilometres around Cross Road, South, Sturt and Brighton Road and South Road. In that space, you have SHOC's, BDOS, Marion, Mitchell Park, Edwardstown, Plympton, PHOS, Kenilworth, Flinders University, and Westminster OS. In the early 90's, all these clubs were able to field sides in colts grades (bar Flinders Uni). This has not happened since. The number of kids in the area has certainaly decreased seeing Marion, Glengowrie and Vermont High Schools close.

Former powerhouse clubs like Morphetville Park, Marion, Kenilworth and Plympton are now struggling to compete with little to no juniors refreshing the senior ranks. It is a tough market and whilst all these clubs survive, most will will struggle for players, sponsors and competing against clubs in the sprawling south (SFL) and North (SAAFL). If one or two of these clubs fold or merge, the remaining will all benefit and will once again be competitive. However, everyone is proud and wants to go it alone.

- BDOS, PHOS and SHOCS are the strongest clubs, seniors and juniors wise.
- Edwardtown have competitive seniors and a good junior base that is just moving over from Metro South to SFL.
- Kenilworth and Plympton are in the lower grades of SAAFL, but have a good junior base.
- Morphetville Park are financially sound but struggle to field colts sides
- Mitcall Park have struggled in the Senior and Juniors.
- Marion are struggling with seniors and juniors but have the best facillities.
- Flinders Uni have struggled with their seniors, but have a fountain of youth at their doorstop.

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:50 pm
by AFLflyer
Esteban Vihaio wrote:It is roughly 25 square kilometres around Cross Road, South, Sturt and Brighton Road and South Road. In that space, you have SHOC's, BDOS, Marion, Mitchell Park, Edwardstown, Plympton, PHOS, Kenilworth, Flinders University, and Westminster OS. In the early 90's, all these clubs were able to field sides in colts grades (bar Flinders Uni). This has not happened since. The number of kids in the area has certainaly decreased seeing Marion, Glengowrie and Vermont High Schools close.

Former powerhouse clubs like Morphetville Park, Marion, Kenilworth and Plympton are now struggling to compete with little to no juniors refreshing the senior ranks. It is a tough market and whilst all these clubs survive, most will will struggle for players, sponsors and competing against clubs in the sprawling south (SFL) and North (SAAFL). If one or two of these clubs fold or merge, the remaining will all benefit and will once again be competitive. However, everyone is proud and wants to go it alone.

- BDOS, PHOS and SHOCS are the strongest clubs, seniors and juniors wise.
- Edwardtown have competitive seniors and a good junior base that is just moving over from Metro South to SFL.
- Kenilworth and Plympton are in the lower grades of SAAFL, but have a good junior base.
- Morphetville Park are financially sound but struggle to field colts sides
- Mitcall Park have struggled in the Senior and Juniors.
- Marion are struggling with seniors and juniors but have the best facillities.
- Flinders Uni have struggled with their seniors, but have a fountain of youth at their doorstop.


and.... so?? therefore .... etc

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:48 am
by LaughingKookaburra
might want to re check those facts mate. Square meters ect the facts are the SAaFL sides most likely never fielded sides in the early 90s. Also with double the grades now playing compared to then id suggest the numbers have increased

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:56 am
by LaughingKookaburra
also id never call us a powerhouse club mate. We havent played any higher than div 4 since 96 and we didnt have juniors then. We also have had very competative senior colts the last 3 years and are filtering into seniors. Probably the main reason why we won a reserves premiership this year plympton are pretty much in the same boat also

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:36 am
by Down the Hill
Do I get royalties for this thread.

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:41 am
by zedman
LaughingKookaburra wrote:also id never call us a powerhouse club mate. We havent played any higher than div 4 since 96 and we didnt have juniors then. We also have had very competative senior colts the last 3 years and are filtering into seniors. Probably the main reason why we won a reserves premiership this year plympton are pretty much in the same boat also


the 12 guys in your team who played A grade the year before won the final for you..the kids were good padding around the edges and most of them tasted senior football as well the year before but they werent the engine room..the rest of what you say is accurate..fwiw you would be unbackable odds on faves again this year..imo

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:43 pm
by MatteeG
Down the Hill wrote:Do I get royalties for this thread.


No. In fact naming a thread after yourself deserves a 2 week ban...

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:50 pm
by One Eyed
and we are just plugging along

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:25 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
zedman wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:also id never call us a powerhouse club mate. We havent played any higher than div 4 since 96 and we didnt have juniors then. We also have had very competative senior colts the last 3 years and are filtering into seniors. Probably the main reason why we won a reserves premiership this year plympton are pretty much in the same boat also


the 12 guys in your team who played A grade the year before won the final for you..the kids were good padding around the edges and most of them tasted senior football as well the year before but they werent the engine room..the rest of what you say is accurate..fwiw you would be unbackable odds on faves again this year..imo
id say eleven of the blokegs that played As the year before won it for us. One of those blokes is a dud.... A Dud with a premiership medal I might add ;)

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 2:13 pm
by zedman
fastest wingman i have ever seen.. :)

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:24 pm
by Lance's brother
zedman wrote:fastest wingman i have ever seen.. :)


Am I second then Zed?

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:31 pm
by zedman
Lance's brother wrote:
zedman wrote:fastest wingman i have ever seen.. :)


Am I second then Zed?


your the baldest i have ever seen :) you are a bit of a whippet though :P

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:49 am
by Down the Hill
MatteeG wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Do I get royalties for this thread.


No. In fact naming a thread after yourself deserves a 2 week ban...


How about a 2 week ban for shooting your mouth off. Go back and check who started the thread. Surprising coming from a Flaggies person. You guys are normally at your best in December.

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:06 pm
by MatteeG
Down the Hill wrote:
MatteeG wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Do I get royalties for this thread.


No. In fact naming a thread after yourself deserves a 2 week ban...


How about a 2 week ban for shooting your mouth off. Go back and check who started the thread. Surprising coming from a Flaggies person. You guys are normally at your best in December.


Gees sorry for having a laugh DTH. Maybe I needed to put a :lol: there to lighten the message?

Plus I was actually saying Esteban deserves the ban, but nevermind...

:roll:

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:16 pm
by the big bang
jeeeebus DTH!!!!

havn't got your latte today?

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:32 am
by White Line Fever
Esteban Vihaio wrote:It is roughly 25 square kilometres around Cross Road, South, Sturt and Brighton Road and South Road. In that space, you have SHOC's, BDOS, Marion, Mitchell Park, Edwardstown, Plympton, PHOS, Kenilworth, Flinders University, and Westminster OS. In the early 90's, all these clubs were able to field sides in colts grades (bar Flinders Uni). This has not happened since. The number of kids in the area has certainaly decreased seeing Marion, Glengowrie and Vermont High Schools close.

Former powerhouse clubs like Morphetville Park, Marion, Kenilworth and Plympton are now struggling to compete with little to no juniors refreshing the senior ranks. It is a tough market and whilst all these clubs survive, most will will struggle for players, sponsors and competing against clubs in the sprawling south (SFL) and North (SAAFL). If one or two of these clubs fold or merge, the remaining will all benefit and will once again be competitive. However, everyone is proud and wants to go it alone.

- BDOS, PHOS and SHOCS are the strongest clubs, seniors and juniors wise.
- Edwardtown have competitive seniors and a good junior base that is just moving over from Metro South to SFL.
- Kenilworth and Plympton are in the lower grades of SAAFL, but have a good junior base.
- Morphetville Park are financially sound but struggle to field colts sides
- Mitcall Park have struggled in the Senior and Juniors.
- Marion are struggling with seniors and juniors but have the best facillities.
- Flinders Uni have struggled with their seniors, but have a fountain of youth at their doorstop.


Massive problem and great post.

Marion area is a retirement village and every junior gets gobbled up by Brighton & SHOCS and can you blame them.

Will get worse before it gets better and over time if some of these clubs don't merge they will fold.

But as EV said all far too proud.

And DTH why are you posting at 12.49am on a Tuesday... :lol:

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:34 am
by Down the Hill
OK sorry guys, thats what happens when you are half asleep and still on the computer. This weather is upsetting all us Bomber boys. The spray on tans are still looking fake without the sun to make them golden, and its been too chilly for the designer tank top and denim shorts.

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:06 pm
by spanner
Down the Hill wrote:OK sorry guys, thats what happens when you are half asleep and still on the computer. This weather is upsetting all us Bomber boys. The spray on tans are still looking fake without the sun to make them golden, and its been too chilly for the designer tank top and denim shorts.



=))
Dont stress mate the latte's are still warm

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:01 pm
by LaughingKookaburra
Massive problem and great post.

Marion area is a retirement village and every junior gets gobbled up by Brighton & SHOCS and can you blame them.

Will get worse before it gets better and over time if some of these clubs don't merge they will fold.

But as EV said all far too proud.

And DTH why are you posting at 12.49am on a Tuesday... :lol:[/quote]

I can understand the points being made but seriously half of these statements are a tad glorified.

Marion and Morphettville Park have not been anything near a junior powerhouse in the last 15 years and in that time surrounding clubs from the SAAFL have established their juniors and have overtaken them. Powerhouses play in grand finals....How many grand finals have Morphettville Park,Marion and Keniilworth played in at Junior level in the past 20 years??
SAAFL clubs did not have juniors 15 years ago...... The main problem is that there are too many grades and not enough juniors. The player numbers have increased dramatically compared to even 10 years ago, the issue is that there are not enough players to play 1 different age group from U8s-u18s across all clubs.
Too many parents are precious and say they dont want their kids playing against kids sometimes 2 years older than them and they may get hurt. So then they turn to other sports. In fear to this some leagues have resorted to making age groups jump yearly rather than every 2 years.
Clubs dont have to merge, just need to have a more sustainable junior program to spread the juniors. But unfortunatly some parents are too precious and some leagues are getting the pressure to bend their rules to satisfy their issues.

Re: Down the hill football

PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:13 pm
by Jetters
EV - people at Metro South don't like hearing about Edwardstown's juniors moving to southern league. I believe they will be in MSJFL in 2011 and plan to stay there.

LK - I disagree, there is enough kids to play in single year age groups, gets a bit tougher in the older age groups though. The reason the MSJFL has turned to single year age groups is due to the increase in number of participants rather than out of fear of losing players.