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Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:48 pm
by Esteban Vihaio
Harsh, but the top 7 teams for 2009 can be conceded in no particular order as Cove, M/Vale, Valley's, Reynella, Brighton, Porties, and Edwardstown. Now, with all these elite teams maintaining strong juniors and financial position, what chances are there for the remainder of the teams not just battling for 8th this year, but for the next three to five years?
Here's my three to five year prognostications for those on struggle street
Morphetville Park - Yeah, it's a great place for a drink, but you've only got mini's
=> Best Case - 6th to 8th - Denham street bar opens, players stay for the nigthlife
=> Worst Case - Praying for div 2 - One of any number of things fall over, and it's 2007 all over again
Flagstaff Hill
Flagstaff - dougie houser
=> Best Case - 4th to 8th - The kids grow up
=> Worst Case - 8th - 9th - Richmond - 8th in SFL = 9th in AFL
Marion - The Rosemont
=> Best Case - 8th - 9th - Pokies bonanza fuels Excelby recruiting spree
=> Worst Case - See Morphetville Park or merge with and start wearing green, yellow and red kits
The Beach - Numbers without quality
=> Best Case - 8th - 10th - See this year
=> Worst Case - 8th - 10th - See this year
Noarlunga - Good juniors + no neighbours = bright future
=> Best Case - 6th - 10th - Slow but steaty rise to eventually crack the elite 7
=> Worst Case - Turn into Flagstaff hill
Aldinga - Distinctive Homes, are they all playing soccer?
=> Best Case - 8th - 11th - Keep the faith whilst the cash rolls in
=> Worst Case - Willunga charter a bus every hour on sat to pick up their juniors
OSB - Lonsdale - Forget keeping up with the jonses
=> Best Case - 9th - 11th - Tread water and rebuild juniors
=> Worst Case - Passed by hackham, all neighbouring side fill two junior teams per grade, they fill none
Hackham - Powerball anyone?
=> Best Case - 11-12th - Mass arrests decimate M/vale, players flock to Doctors road
=> Worst Case - Does it need to be said
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:45 pm
by Mr Bean
[quote="Esteban Vihaio"]Harsh, but the top 7 teams for 2009 can be conceded in no particular order as Cove, M/Vale, Valley's, Reynella, Brighton, Porties, and Edwardstown. Now, with all these elite teams maintaining strong juniors and financial position, what chances are there for the remainder of the teams not just battling for 8th this year, but for the next three to five years? quote]
Interesting that you mention that the above clubs are in a strong financial position.
It appears that this may not be the case at Emu Park.
MVFC AGM reveals, as I understand it, that they have $20K in cash but owe ATO $14K and Trade Creditors $44K.
It seems that monies are still owed to trainers etc for last season?
Doesn't look good but apparently only one member made any queries regarding financials!!!!
Should the SFL be worried about this powerhouse of the league?
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:48 pm
by the big bang
Mr Bean wrote:Esteban Vihaio wrote:Harsh, but the top 7 teams for 2009 can be conceded in no particular order as Cove, M/Vale, Valley's, Reynella, Brighton, Porties, and Edwardstown. Now, with all these elite teams maintaining strong juniors and financial position, what chances are there for the remainder of the teams not just battling for 8th this year, but for the next three to five years? quote]
Interesting that you mention that the above clubs are in a strong financial position.
It appears that this may not be the case at Emu Park.
MVFC AGM reveals, as I understand it, that they have $20K in cash but owe ATO $14K and Trade Creditors $44K.
It seems that monies are still owed to trainers etc for last season?
Doesn't look good but apparently only one member made any queries regarding financials!!!!
Should the SFL be worried about this powerhouse of the league?
the league will probably bail them out, while the little fish keep struggling along.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:11 pm
by GO THE PUNT
Hey E.V. i'm thinking that you must be involved with every club in the sfl as you know how well their finances are and what they are doing with the playing groups. Yeh your allowed to have your thoughts but me thinks you didn't think to hard about them. I think a few clubs may suprise you over the next 2 to 3 years but time will tell.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:00 am
by Sorry Dude
It just comes down to either being on holidays for work or he has far to much time on his hands. but keep us all amused with your left field antics EV
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:49 am
by SSS
Mr Bean wrote:Esteban Vihaio wrote:Harsh, but the top 7 teams for 2009 can be conceded in no particular order as Cove, M/Vale, Valley's, Reynella, Brighton, Porties, and Edwardstown. Now, with all these elite teams maintaining strong juniors and financial position, what chances are there for the remainder of the teams not just battling for 8th this year, but for the next three to five years? quote]
Interesting that you mention that the above clubs are in a strong financial position.
It appears that this may not be the case at Emu Park.
MVFC AGM reveals, as I understand it, that they have $20K in cash but owe ATO $14K and Trade Creditors $44K.
It seems that monies are still owed to trainers etc for last season?
Doesn't look good but apparently only one member made any queries regarding financials!!!!
Should the SFL be worried about this powerhouse of the league?
This doesn't sound too good at all.
Mex were you at the AGM?
What's going on? Surely they won't fold.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:52 am
by MatteeG
Wouldnt be the first time a powerhouse got into trouble- remember Christies circa 94 (I think?). Won the lot then couldnt pay anyone...
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:33 pm
by asert
wasnt that cos they closed the bar at like 7pm night of the grand final so everyone left to porties
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:36 pm
by shoe boy
asert wrote:wasnt that cos they closed the bar at like 7pm night of the grand final so everyone left to porties
And put bouncers on the door to keep their own players and members out???
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:55 pm
by cyclops
Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:01 pm
by asert
or a decent accountant/treasurer
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:16 pm
by Mr Bean
cyclops wrote:Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
You have to wonder don't you Cyclops, but i wouldn't be giving any money until I found out what the hell is going on there.
asert wrote:or a decent accountant/treasurer
asert you could be on to something!!!!!
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:49 pm
by the big bang
asert wrote:or a decent accountant/treasurer
makes perfect sense!!
aldinga has fixed up their financial woes thanxs largely to having Rossdale Homes' accountant keep our books for the last 2 years. he done a mighty job. definetly makes a difference having a "professional" put there hand up to do that sorta thing.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:40 am
by Iron Fist
the_big_bang wrote:asert wrote:or a decent accountant/treasurer
makes perfect sense!!
aldinga has fixed up their financial woes thanxs largely to having Rossdale Homes' accountant keep our books for the last 2 years. he done a mighty job. definetly makes a difference having a "professional" put there hand up to do that sorta thing.
good ol matty groves?
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:51 am
by rodney fox
Iron Fist wrote:the_big_bang wrote:asert wrote:or a decent accountant/treasurer
makes perfect sense!!
aldinga has fixed up their financial woes thanxs largely to having Rossdale Homes' accountant keep our books for the last 2 years. he done a mighty job. definetly makes a difference having a "professional" put there hand up to do that sorta thing.
good ol matty groves?
He's our man.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:05 pm
by DILLIGAF
cyclops wrote:Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
maybe the players are getting to much
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:44 pm
by cyclops
DILLIGAF wrote:cyclops wrote:Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
maybe the players are getting to much
Mate i wish so much that this was true,but you are so far from the truth.If m/vale players were getting paid so much then we wouldnt have to worry bout blokes like Zac Ewer and Hodgey playn anywhere else.But u cant blame them for goin.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:03 pm
by SSS
cyclops wrote:DILLIGAF wrote:cyclops wrote:Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
maybe the players are getting to much
Mate i wish so much that this was true,but you are so far from the truth.If m/vale players were getting paid so much then we wouldnt have to worry bout blokes like Zac Ewer and Hodgey playn anywhere else.But u cant blame them for goin.
Not the case DILLIGAF. Average player payments only $68 according to financials. Players also pay pretty high subs. I wish I knew where all the money is going.
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:06 pm
by DILLIGAF
SSS wrote:cyclops wrote:DILLIGAF wrote:cyclops wrote:Im not sure if this issue with M/Vale is correct or not,but one thing is for sure our club never seems to have any money,wot the hell is going on,i would doubt wether any other clubs would get as many to game days or prezos and have as many numbers playing(a grade-mini league)for the club as wot m/vale do.Im confused when it comes to the financial position.Not too mention GF nights for the past 8 yrs or so,you cant move in the club.Bingo twice a week,raffles every week.Maybe we need to get sum1 finding sponsors 24/7.If i had enough cash i would definately giv it too the club.How do other local clubs make cash-anyone.
maybe the players are getting to much
Mate i wish so much that this was true,but you are so far from the truth.If m/vale players were getting paid so much then we wouldnt have to worry bout blokes like Zac Ewer and Hodgey playn anywhere else.But u cant blame them for goin.
Not the case DILLIGAF. Average player payments only $68 according to financials. Players also pay pretty high subs. I wish I knew where all the money is going.
fair enough maybe some one is pocketing the cash ya never know
Re: Struggle street - the bottom 8 of the SFL

Posted:
Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:00 pm
by cyclops
fair enough maybe some one is pocketing the cash ya never know[/quote]
mmmm i wonder