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Postby thegossip » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:51 pm

yes did hear a old marion u18 coach was trying to take afew players to c.l. gardens. Have to agree with the top sides about div 2. Morphy parks i would rate about div 5, southeren hawks and aldinga about div 6 or 7. Did watch afew mithcell park games last year and except for about 4 players standard not great. Never gauge a team in a trail game never a good reading of any leauge
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Postby Navy2005 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:00 pm

thegossip wrote:yes did hear a old marion u18 coach was trying to take afew players to c.l. gardens. Have to agree with the top sides about div 2. Morphy parks i would rate about div 5, southeren hawks and aldinga about div 6 or 7. Did watch afew mithcell park games last year and except for about 4 players standard not great. Never gauge a team in a trail game never a good reading of any leauge


Hackham and Aldinga I would think would be at least competitive in Div 6. I think any SFL team would dominate Div7 even Hackham and Aldinga
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Postby croc11 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:26 pm

I can't believe some of the rubbish written about the SFL. Last year there were 6 clubs all with a chance of winning the flag - Brighton who came 6th had some terrible injuries near the end so finished off the pace, but nearing the end of the year - having 6 clubs who could win a flag is a bloody good comp. How many other comps around Australia would have this? I think most would envy this type of competition. Yes there are too many teams and a few decent thrashings of the bottom 4, but a couple of other clubs are improving - Flaggies and Christies are improving each year and Noarlunga will improve if they pay attention to their juniors and Marion who forwent their juniors a few years ago are paying the price, but will rebound. Don't know enough about the bottom 4 clubs, but I am sure that they will struggle again. As for the Amateurs, I played there for many years and certainly know that the standard drops off very quickly. The Top 6 clubs would all compete very well in Div 1 and would dominate Div 2 so talk about clubs being competitive in Div 5 and 6 is such complete crap. The SFL junior comp is also the envy of other leagues - playing before the A's and B's is country footy in the city. The involvement of all is fantastic and how boring playing B Grade Amateurs when there is no-one there to watch the game. Gee Div 5 and 6 games are so exciting to watch - all with 40 people there. It is easy to knock the SFL but it has many things going for it and people have to be patient with a 14 team comp - some clubs will have to make the tough decision to move on in the next few years because players leave after thrashing after thrashing. If you can't be an honest chance of making finals year in and year out, you will naturally have to look for a more even comp and then the SFL will have 10-12 very strong clubs. Enough you Amateur fools - if you were good enough we'd have poached your best players or you would be in Div 1 and 2 and we wouldn't be talking about this stuff. The Hills, SFL and Great Southern are all great comps because they are tribal in nature - in the Amateurs you don't have that as 2 teams get relegated and 2 go up - where is tribal nature and the long term rivalries and how sad to see clubs like Kilburn struggle when they used to be the powers of Div 1. Oh well I guess you guys would even state that Kilburn would dominate the SFL.
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Postby Navy2005 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:47 pm

croc11 wrote:I can't believe some of the rubbish written about the SFL. Last year there were 6 clubs all with a chance of winning the flag - Brighton who came 6th had some terrible injuries near the end so finished off the pace, but nearing the end of the year - having 6 clubs who could win a flag is a bloody good comp. How many other comps around Australia would have this? I think most would envy this type of competition. Yes there are too many teams and a few decent thrashings of the bottom 4, but a couple of other clubs are improving - Flaggies and Christies are improving each year and Noarlunga will improve if they pay attention to their juniors and Marion who forwent their juniors a few years ago are paying the price, but will rebound. Don't know enough about the bottom 4 clubs, but I am sure that they will struggle again. As for the Amateurs, I played there for many years and certainly know that the standard drops off very quickly. The Top 6 clubs would all compete very well in Div 1 and would dominate Div 2 so talk about clubs being competitive in Div 5 and 6 is such complete crap. The SFL junior comp is also the envy of other leagues - playing before the A's and B's is country footy in the city. The involvement of all is fantastic and how boring playing B Grade Amateurs when there is no-one there to watch the game. Gee Div 5 and 6 games are so exciting to watch - all with 40 people there. It is easy to knock the SFL but it has many things going for it and people have to be patient with a 14 team comp - some clubs will have to make the tough decision to move on in the next few years because players leave after thrashing after thrashing. If you can't be an honest chance of making finals year in and year out, you will naturally have to look for a more even comp and then the SFL will have 10-12 very strong clubs. Enough you Amateur fools - if you were good enough we'd have poached your best players or you would be in Div 1 and 2 and we wouldn't be talking about this stuff. The Hills, SFL and Great Southern are all great comps because they are tribal in nature - in the Amateurs you don't have that as 2 teams get relegated and 2 go up - where is tribal nature and the long term rivalries and how sad to see clubs like Kilburn struggle when they used to be the powers of Div 1. Oh well I guess you guys would even state that Kilburn would dominate the SFL.


Look I think you are right Croc there are a couple of clubs Hackham and Aldinga that have been struggling for some time now and do suffer some terrible beltings but that is due to the competitions very high calibre competition (and they will improve with time). Overall the Southern League is probably the best competition below Div 1 Ammoo's. Great support terrific atmosphere and passionate people who really get behind their teams.
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Postby scottroo » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:07 pm

the reailty is, the saafl UNDER 23s played a southern league open age team, and did them quite easily...if a saafl open team played the SFL under 23s, SAAFL by 30 goal
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Postby croc11 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:19 pm

You are getting a bit silly now. The ledger between the SFL and SAAFL Under 23's is 2-1 and could quite easily have been SFL 2 and SAAFL 1 with a bit of luck. Yes the SFL were ordinary 2 years ago and suffered a belting, but that happens from time to time in this sort of comp. The Under Age Rep Games have seen the SFL beat the Amateurs so what does this mean about the Amateurs junior comp, but we don't go bleating on about this. Let's face it, the SAAFL State Team can't get anywhere near the Vic's anymore and have had to resort to playing Under 23 State Games. So don't blow your trumpet too hard. The SFL side resembles an Under 23 side as well so its a bit rich to make grandiose comments. Our competition is getting much closer than you think - hence the embarrasment that the SAAFL faced after being beaten comprehensively in all Rep Games the first year.
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Postby thegossip » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:29 pm

scottroo i think you have a big problems with southeren league did you get burnt by a club there?? To look at a inter league game and say the competion is so much better because one beat the other is not always the way.
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Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:38 pm

scottroo wrote:the reailty is, the saafl UNDER 23s played a southern league open age team, and did them quite easily...if a saafl open team played the SFL under 23s, SAAFL by 30 goal


SFL team had to be an average age of under 23. Not a open age team.
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Postby scottroo » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:05 pm

did they have players over 23, answer is yes
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Postby scottroo » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:11 pm

http://www.aafc.com.au/results.php

looks to me like the SAAFL did beat VAFA as soon ago as 2006
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Postby WHEELS&DEALS » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:20 pm

with the amount of teams and players that you have you to choose from you should hammer us every year, but that hasn't been happening. 14 team comp compared with about 65 to 70
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Postby croc11 » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:43 pm

Once again - check your facts. Yes the SAAFL beat the Vics for the first time since 1995, but in 2006 it was Under 23's because the SAAFL and Vic Amateurs especially got sick of thrashing the Amateurs. So they all decided to play Under 23's. If that defines your argument and how good you're league is then you need to start again. I and the other SFL followers all ackowledge that the difference between the best and the rest is significant, but you fail to answer the most important ingredient - rivalry between clubs which provides club spirit and tradition. Where are the great old rivalries now - they are few and far between. We know the SAAFL Div 1 and 2 is a good comp - but so are our Top Clubs.
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SAAFL V SFL

Postby dont think do » Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:52 am

SAAFL V SFL
Having been involved in both comps in the past and with no current ties to either one its time to make a comment.

Seems a lot of this has come from CLG beating Hackam in a pre-season game last year. Well not sure what others feel about pre-season games but for me its never for points, its a good chance to see what you have and often for an A grade coach to have a good look at B grade players. I can remeber being at a Div 1 club and seemed most of the B grade played in the A grade Trial.

The other and main point, and not wanting to upset anyone form Hackam but they are a long way of the pace, I saw them twice last year and they got flogged by 30 plus, by a team that was not in the top 6. From my view they had one maybe 2 good players and others making up the numbers and if those 2 didnt play in the pre-season game heaven help them.

As for SAAFL Div 5, late in 2005 i stopped to watch a game between Mitchell Park and Golden Grove and could not believe how bad the standard was. Looked just like unfit old blokes who got picked form local pub the night before.

No doubt as well as the talent or lack off, clubs in the bottom half of the Southern League and Div5 down would suffer from lack of committment and structure and would rely on small group of players, so the bottom of the SFL and Div 5 would be no better or worse than the other.
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Postby SOTTERS » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:00 pm

Have heard that Aldinga has picked up some Henley footballers for 2007 season. Russell Hart, Arron Biglands and Peter Stevens. Looks like it could be a promising season for the Sharks.
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Postby SOTTERS » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:00 pm

Have heard that Aldinga has picked up some Henley footballers for 2007 season. Russell Hart, Arron Biglands and Peter Stevens. Looks like it could be a promising season for the Sharks.
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Postby Backliner » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:39 pm

SOTTERS wrote:Have heard that Aldinga has picked up some Henley footballers for 2007 season. Russell Hart, Arron Biglands and Peter Stevens. Looks like it could be a promising season for the Sharks.


Looks like I'm B grade this year tiger. Locals will have to train for spots in A grade, or go down to Myponga as will be easier for them. Can only be a good thing.

Our first training for new year is Wednesday 10 January if any players want to come down for a look at how Sharks are looking this year. Picked up 11 new players this year already.
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Postby petoe » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:18 am

Didn't someone post that this peter stevens guy signed with brighton for big money? So where is he at then?
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Postby Backliner » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:01 pm

petoe wrote:Didn't someone post that this peter stevens guy signed with brighton for big money? So where is he at then?


Has signed with Aldinga. Spoke to Assistant coach last night. It is the same guy yes. Has kept together with 3 or 4 other players. Hope to meet him Wednesday at training, hopefully will be at Pt Willunga Beach as will be 38 degrees :D
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Postby FOOTYGODS » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:38 pm

Yes Peter has definately signed up at Aldinga with Biggs and myself, he was about to go down to Brighton when i told him we were talking to Aldinga and he was happy to come up there and help Aldinga make the finals this year.....
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Postby Specky McGee » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:34 pm

Backliner wrote:
SOTTERS wrote:Have heard that Aldinga has picked up some Henley footballers for 2007 season. Russell Hart, Arron Biglands and Peter Stevens. Looks like it could be a promising season for the Sharks.


Looks like I'm B grade this year tiger. Locals will have to train for spots in A grade, or go down to Myponga as will be easier for them. Can only be a good thing.

Our first training for new year is Wednesday 10 January if any players want to come down for a look at how Sharks are looking this year. Picked up 11 new players this year already.


Does that mean they have to recruit another 10 players to be competitive.....
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