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Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:45 pm
by Broken Down Hack
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Thumbs Up wrote:I think football in General should discuss the Hills, Southern and Great Southern becoming Country Super league. There is currently 38 teams within those leagues. With Div 1,2 and 3 having a 10 team comp with Div 4 having an 8 team comp. Promotion and relegation for the 2 top teams and bottom 2 teams. Div 1 would look like this right now - Mt compass,Willunga,Victor Harbour, Mclaren, Noarlunga,Christies Beach,Flagstaff Hill, Handorf, Onkaparinga Valley and Mt Barker. WOWZA


There are rumours that this is being discussed currently.

Doubt GSFL would entertain the idea as they have netball with the football.


Discussions will probably go the same way as they did in 1983
when the Southern Metropolitan Football League met with Southern League
38 clubs, 4 divisions, gate takings and junior footy being played on a Sunday killed that idea.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:46 pm
by ball breaker
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Thumbs Up wrote:I think football in General should discuss the Hills, Southern and Great Southern becoming Country Super league. There is currently 38 teams within those leagues. With Div 1,2 and 3 having a 10 team comp with Div 4 having an 8 team comp. Promotion and relegation for the 2 top teams and bottom 2 teams. Div 1 would look like this right now - Mt compass,Willunga,Victor Harbour, Mclaren, Noarlunga,Christies Beach,Flagstaff Hill, Handorf, Onkaparinga Valley and Mt Barker. WOWZA


There are rumours that this is being discussed currently.

Doubt GSFL would entertain the idea as they have netball with the football.
The best thing about the GSFL is that its combined with the netball.

Having playedin both leagues the GSFL hands down more family friendly.

I hope they don't turn it into a super league!!.

Hills and Southern Should bite the bullet at hit the SAAFL!

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:06 pm
by Thumbs Up
ball breaker wrote:
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Thumbs Up wrote:I think football in General should discuss the Hills, Southern and Great Southern becoming Country Super league. There is currently 38 teams within those leagues. With Div 1,2 and 3 having a 10 team comp with Div 4 having an 8 team comp. Promotion and relegation for the 2 top teams and bottom 2 teams. Div 1 would look like this right now - Mt compass,Willunga,Victor Harbour, Mclaren, Noarlunga,Christies Beach,Flagstaff Hill, Handorf, Onkaparinga Valley and Mt Barker. WOWZA


There are rumours that this is being discussed currently.

Doubt GSFL would entertain the idea as they have netball with the football.
The best thing about the GSFL is that its combined with the netball.

Having playedin both leagues the GSFL hands down more family friendly.

I hope they don't turn it into a super league!!.

Hills and Southern Should bite the bullet at hit the SAAFL!


No disrespect to those comments at all but when does football have to discuss the issue of netball. Why do we have to care about that. Im sure that there are families in the SFL that have daughters that play netball and are at different venues and we never hear a winge about it. Also how many current men playing A Grade Football in the mentioned leagues have partners that play netball at the same time. Im sure their is some but is it really enough to listen to and not change football for the better? I think it is time for the older men that do a great job of governing their leagues become more open minded about football and less about their own back yard.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:17 pm
by Smashed Crab
No disrespect to those comments at all but when does football have to discuss the issue of netball. Why do we have to care about that. Im sure that there are families in the SFL that have daughters that play netball and are at different venues and we never hear a winge about it. Also how many current men playing A Grade Football in the mentioned leagues have partners that play netball at the same time. Im sure their is some but is it really enough to listen to and not change football for the better? I think it is time for the older men that do a great job of governing their leagues become more open minded about football and less about their own back yard.[/quote]

The family orientation is what keeps the GSFL a strong league. That's why some 'recruits' play down there, because they can take their wife and kids to the same club and play on the same day. Why would you change that because several other leagues cannot manage their own backyard?

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:48 am
by shoe boy
Country champs ,
Another bye , did we have to ?
Is the concept done ?
Thoughts.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:10 pm
by cracka
ball breaker wrote:
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Thumbs Up wrote:I think football in General should discuss the Hills, Southern and Great Southern becoming Country Super league. There is currently 38 teams within those leagues. With Div 1,2 and 3 having a 10 team comp with Div 4 having an 8 team comp. Promotion and relegation for the 2 top teams and bottom 2 teams. Div 1 would look like this right now - Mt compass,Willunga,Victor Harbour, Mclaren, Noarlunga,Christies Beach,Flagstaff Hill, Handorf, Onkaparinga Valley and Mt Barker. WOWZA


There are rumours that this is being discussed currently.

Doubt GSFL would entertain the idea as they have netball with the football.
The best thing about the GSFL is that its combined with the netball.

Having playedin both leagues the GSFL hands down more family friendly.

I hope they don't turn it into a super league!!.

Hills and Southern Should bite the bullet at hit the SAAFL!


Thumbs Up wrote:No disrespect to those comments at all but when does football have to discuss the issue of netball. Why do we have to care about that. Im sure that there are families in the SFL that have daughters that play netball and are at different venues and we never hear a winge about it. Also how many current men playing A Grade Football in the mentioned leagues have partners that play netball at the same time. Im sure their is some but is it really enough to listen to and not change football for the better? I think it is time for the older men that do a great job of governing their leagues become more open minded about football and less about their own back yard.

It's not just senior players with partners though. There's families that will have a son & a daughter playing football & netball at the same venues.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:58 pm
by shoe boy
ball breaker wrote:
cracka wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Thumbs Up wrote:I think football in General should discuss the Hills, Southern and Great Southern becoming Country Super league. There is currently 38 teams within those leagues. With Div 1,2 and 3 having a 10 team comp with Div 4 having an 8 team comp. Promotion and relegation for the 2 top teams and bottom 2 teams. Div 1 would look like this right now - Mt compass,Willunga,Victor Harbour, Mclaren, Noarlunga,Christies Beach,Flagstaff Hill, Handorf, Onkaparinga Valley and Mt Barker. WOWZA


There are rumours that this is being discussed currently.

Doubt GSFL would entertain the idea as they have netball with the football.
The best thing about the GSFL is that its combined with the netball.

Having playedin both leagues the GSFL hands down more family friendly.

I hope they don't turn it into a super league!!.

Hills and Southern Should bite the bullet at hit the SAAFL!


Or just take the spot of troubled GSFL sides :shock:

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:26 am
by marbles
At the very least just merge hills and sfl

Gsfl is flourishing on its own?

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:52 pm
by tigerpie
Aldinda to kersbrook faaaaark!

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:33 am
by shoe boy
marbles wrote:At the very least just merge hills and sfl

:-? :-? Gsfl is flourishing on its own?


Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:59 am
by shoe boy
tigerpie wrote:Aldinda to kersbrook faaaaark!


1 hour 14 min

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:21 am
by Dutchy
marbles wrote:
Gsfl is flourishing on its own?


good comp yes however its also a comp that is heavily reliant on imports and $$$'s to sustain its seniors while its juniors struggle.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:13 pm
by TheAce
Shoe Boy

Country champs no good for SFL programming given we already have an odd number of teams. Apart from a few players that might enjoy what benefit is there ?

On another topic, combining leagues or football and netball joining forces really ? SFL is a dying competition unfortunately and I'd say Hills might not be that much better, all I know is go back to 90's SFL had two strong divisions then it all changed two clubs merged and other clubs left the league to join Hills and then SAAFL.

A serious over haul needs to happen SFL once the hierarchy put up their hands for help nothing will change. Say good bye to SFL in next few years

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:45 am
by Thumbs Up
marbles wrote:At the very least just merge hills and sfl

Gsfl is flourishing on its own?

I see some flourishing score lines in the GSFL this weekend. That league is going great guns. So is their netball though.
LHC vs Yank = 20 goals
Mt C vs McL = 4 goals
Strath vs Myponga = 13 goals
VH vs G PE = 21 goals
Will vs EB = 16
Tight contests all round

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:43 pm
by Look Good In Leather
Thumbs Up wrote:
marbles wrote:At the very least just merge hills and sfl

Gsfl is flourishing on its own?

I see some flourishing score lines in the GSFL this weekend. That league is going great guns. So is their netball though.
LHC vs Yank = 20 goals
Mt C vs McL = 4 goals
Strath vs Myponga = 13 goals
VH vs G PE = 21 goals
Will vs EB = 16
Tight contests all round


I heard they are having issues with netball with a lot of blame being directed at women's football. The main senior competition is down to 9 teams as Encounter Bay has dropped their A-Grade into the B-Grade competition and is winless and having massive losses in that (74-18 this week :shock: )

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:41 am
by Barracker1
All parties need to stop the procrastinating and realise the possibilities. The SFL, GSFL and Hills league are not protected species and could create one of the best if not the best comps in SA once merged. SFL 9 teams GSFL 10 teams Hills league 18 teams combine to create 3 grades of quality footy and the "crowds will come". Ego's and partisan pride needs to be put aside or suffer the consequences. SFL not competitive, Hills league the same and the GSFL prop up sides that are smashed each week. One complaint was travel time Kersbrook to Aldinga 1 hour 14 minutes BIG DEAL Try Brighton to Rostrevor in traffic. Come on !!. If your serious and sensible this is the only way out for these three comps to progress and not dissolve like others before.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:23 pm
by afc9798
Barracker1 wrote:All parties need to stop the procrastinating and realise the possibilities. The SFL, GSFL and Hills league are not protected species and could create one of the best if not the best comps in SA once merged. SFL 9 teams GSFL 10 teams Hills league 18 teams combine to create 3 grades of quality footy and the "crowds will come". Ego's and partisan pride needs to be put aside or suffer the consequences. SFL not competitive, Hills league the same and the GSFL prop up sides that are smashed each week. One complaint was travel time Kersbrook to Aldinga 1 hour 14 minutes BIG DEAL Try Brighton to Rostrevor in traffic. Come on !!. If your serious and sensible this is the only way out for these three comps to progress and not dissolve like others before.


Well said and I totally agree with your points. Also allows juniors and seniors games to stay at a single venue.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:05 pm
by insideword1
Barracker1 wrote:All parties need to stop the procrastinating and realise the possibilities. The SFL, GSFL and Hills league are not protected species and could create one of the best if not the best comps in SA once merged. SFL 9 teams GSFL 10 teams Hills league 18 teams combine to create 3 grades of quality footy and the "crowds will come". Ego's and partisan pride needs to be put aside or suffer the consequences. SFL not competitive, Hills league the same and the GSFL prop up sides that are smashed each week. One complaint was travel time Kersbrook to Aldinga 1 hour 14 minutes BIG DEAL Try Brighton to Rostrevor in traffic. Come on !!. If your serious and sensible this is the only way out for these three comps to progress and not dissolve like others before.


You obviously haven't watched hills football or looked at scores if you honestly think this.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:48 pm
by shoe boy
insideword1 wrote:
Barracker1 wrote:All parties need to stop the procrastinating and realise the possibilities. The SFL, GSFL and Hills league are not protected species and could create one of the best if not the best comps in SA once merged. SFL 9 teams GSFL 10 teams Hills league 18 teams combine to create 3 grades of quality footy and the "crowds will come".[i] Ego's and partisan pride needs to be put aside or suffer the consequences.[/i] SFL not competitive, Hills league the same and the GSFL prop up sides that are smashed each week. One complaint was travel time Kersbrook to Aldinga 1 hour 14 minutes BIG DEAL Try Brighton to Rostrevor in traffic. Come on !!. If your serious and sensible this is the only way out for these three comps to progress and not dissolve like others before.


You obviously haven't watched hills football or looked at scores if you honestly think this.

Re: Southern Football League

PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:41 pm
by Down the Hill
But the Hills League has created a ridulous BYE in both divisions as a means of reducing the damage with some potential match ups. Meadows and Torrens Valley are way off the pace in Div 2, Lobethal have won 2 of their last 30 in Div 1 and the decision to promote Nairne seemed to be more based on their juniors because their Seniors clearly weren't ready. As someone who still maintains an interest in the SFL I think the concept of a 3 league merge to create the "Fleurieu Hills League" should at least be explored by the leagues and the SACFL.

But the elephant in the room is juniors and that the stronger senior clubs aren't always the stronger juniors clubs and vice versa and people who always complain about the SFL ever going to one division or not going back to two divisions tend to overlook how a divisional model is and always will be flawed based on the impact on juniors. So as good as a merged league may look with 3 or 4 fairly even senior divisions with promotion and relegation, it can create unintended consequences for junior footy.