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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:06 pm

afc9798 wrote:
marbles wrote:i not the problem here champ, the problem you and your league have is an inequality of competition

you said it yourself...

Zelezny Chucks wrote:I figure you have NFI. I have played in an A grade side that was beaten one year by Hackham and Kangarilla. That is without mentioning a few 20 goal beatings that we were handed by a few of the top teams at the time.

Those that copped those results know how sweet it was when we put it altogether and, as a CLUB (B grade won 3 in a row in that period too), achieved something we will remember forever. You seem to forget that this years Premiers went within a game of missing the 8 last year and that a team who finished outside the 8
Watching players like Liam Green start out in minis and come through the grades to be the player he is today is something you and your club will never understand. I would love an even competition but disappearing to an easier league for "success" is a cowards way out.


so far ive been like Jesus coming along and trying to discuss and bring a healing to your comp.

why arent you guys standing up and having a say about fixing this, instead one party is content to be crap the other is content to smash em every week

someones gotta have the gutz to point out the white elephant in the room, and im proud to be standing up for the little battlers who deserve to win something for their ongoing efforts just once in 25 years - ie: look closer at the darkness within the deprived volunteers


Delusions of grandeur marbles. I know the SAAFL model is perfect and we should all be queueiing up, but something keeps us going back to the SFL. Could be just that playing within a spirited comp beats soulless premierships in Division 324?


err :shock: will leave that one alone me thinks :shock:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Footy Chick » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:37 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:
marbles wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:
marbles wrote:So what year are Christies Beach aiming to win the flag??


ASAP

At least with a decent season, you can be in with a chance.

Div 6 teams are 5 years away even being allowed to compete for the premiership, and that would require qualifying for 5 minor grand finals in a row


huh?? sure over 60 clubs and yeah only one gets to win the Div 1 flag

but is whats most important at a club (for me) is the celebration of the community within

Ingle Farm have been Div 6 whipping boys for past few years, and probably has been very dark times for that club

Now look at their 2013 season, and those club members, girlfriends, families, have just had the times of their life with an victorious grand final celebration night - the vibe right now at Ingle Farm is sky high and 2013 will be treasured for decades to come

I doubt anyone there is caring that it wasnt the Div 1 flag :shock: their club achieved the ultimate success - an A-Grade premiership

and to me it seems that SFL clubs care more about gate revenue, than they do bringing home a trophy.


So you'd be happy to win a flag every 2 years yo-yoing between divisions?

Think it's time for you to go back to the Amateur threads, you have nothing to offer here.



Nah, you can keep him :lol:

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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:47 pm

marbles wrote:
afc9798 wrote:
marbles wrote:i not the problem here champ, the problem you and your league have is an inequality of competition

you said it yourself...

Zelezny Chucks wrote:I figure you have NFI. I have played in an A grade side that was beaten one year by Hackham and Kangarilla. That is without mentioning a few 20 goal beatings that we were handed by a few of the top teams at the time.

Those that copped those results know how sweet it was when we put it altogether and, as a CLUB (B grade won 3 in a row in that period too), achieved something we will remember forever. You seem to forget that this years Premiers went within a game of missing the 8 last year and that a team who finished outside the 8
Watching players like Liam Green start out in minis and come through the grades to be the player he is today is something you and your club will never understand. I would love an even competition but disappearing to an easier league for "success" is a cowards way out.


so far ive been like Jesus coming along and trying to discuss and bring a healing to your comp.

why arent you guys standing up and having a say about fixing this, instead one party is content to be crap the other is content to smash em every week

someones gotta have the gutz to point out the white elephant in the room, and im proud to be standing up for the little battlers who deserve to win something for their ongoing efforts just once in 25 years - ie: look closer at the darkness within the deprived volunteers


Delusions of grandeur marbles. I know the SAAFL model is perfect and we should all be queueiing up, but something keeps us going back to the SFL. Could be just that playing within a spirited comp beats soulless premierships in Division 324?


err :shock: will leave that one alone me thinks :shock:


Why, you've tried to offend every other aspect of our league...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:53 pm

Yank Man wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?



No, mine was standing in the middle of the moreland ave oval with all my premiership players singing the club song, I'll never forget it. NEVER EVER FORGET IT. Premierships build culture, like it or not. :lol: Couldn't imagine knowing 8-16 was the best my club could ever be. :(


As opposed to 61-70 in Division 7?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:58 pm

Footy Chick wrote:Nah, you can keep him :lol:

Ever heard the saying that starts "Don't argue with an idiot..." 8)


You try to give them a chance though to prove themselves otherwise but they just keep letting you down don't they? :oops:

Lesson learnt.

Enjoy your 2014,2016 and 2018 Premierships Marbles.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Numbers » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:23 am

marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?


Some of my best nights, days, weekends were at the club wearing a premiership medal celebrating with the club faithful & even slept a few nights in the club/change rooms after a GF win!

Why were you in town? Don't enjoy the club you played at???
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:59 am

a soulless premiership they claim :shock: wtf

Delusions of grandeur marbles. I know the SAAFL model is perfect and we should all be queueiing up, but something keeps us going back to the SFL. Could be just that playing within a spirited comp beats soulless premierships in Division 324?


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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Numbers » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:45 am

marbles wrote:a soulless premiership they claim :shock: wtf

Delusions of grandeur marbles. I know the SAAFL model is perfect and we should all be queueiing up, but something keeps us going back to the SFL. Could be just that playing within a spirited comp beats soulless premierships in Division 324?


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Looks like they celebrating the chance to play for a real premiership next year!

Good luck to them, if it doesn't work out they can go back & win another chance!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:46 am

Numbers wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?


Some of my best nights, days, weekends were at the club wearing a premiership medal celebrating with the club faithful & even slept a few nights in the club/change rooms after a GF win!

Why were you in town? Don't enjoy the club you played at???


Quite a number of those clubs don't have clubrooms as we know them. They play their games in the parklands or on a school oval and then head to a pub to do 5 minutes of presentations before drifting around town. A bit like playing C or D-Grade cricket, but with less spectators.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Moe » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:36 am

Look Good In Leather wrote:
Numbers wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?


Some of my best nights, days, weekends were at the club wearing a premiership medal celebrating with the club faithful & even slept a few nights in the club/change rooms after a GF win!

Why were you in town? Don't enjoy the club you played at???


Quite a number of those clubs don't have clubrooms as we know them. They play their games in the parklands or on a school oval and then head to a pub to do 5 minutes of presentations before drifting around town. A bit like playing C or D-Grade cricket, but with less spectators.

Hey! Dont knock us D grade cricketers!! ;)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bloods4Life » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?



No, mine was standing in the middle of the moreland ave oval with all my premiership players singing the club song, I'll never forget it. NEVER EVER FORGET IT. Premierships build culture, like it or not. :lol: Couldn't imagine knowing 8-16 was the best my club could ever be. :(


As opposed to 61-70 in Division 7?


Obviously the amatuer league has too many teams to put in one div so of course it has to be spread out into ten team divs. Whether it be div 2 or div 6 it's just a number. It's only a couple of quality players that separates one div to the next. On any given year depending on recruits/departures the top team in div 5/6 would definately challenge if not beat the bottom teams in div 2. I remember a trial game at the start of the year a particular div 6 team (who didn't make the finals might I add) took it up to Christies beach and lead all day up until halfway through the last quarter until they got run over. No system is perfect and I'm a fan of the all day football on Saturdays that the SFL have. But don't bag the teams in the SAAFL or the league itself just because one poster comes on here and tries to stir the pot.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bloods4Life » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:18 pm

Numbers wrote:
marbles wrote:a soulless premiership they claim :shock: wtf

Delusions of grandeur marbles. I know the SAAFL model is perfect and we should all be queueiing up, but something keeps us going back to the SFL. Could be just that playing within a spirited comp beats soulless premierships in Division 324?


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Looks like they celebrating the chance to play for a real premiership next year!

Good luck to them, if it doesn't work out they can go back & win another chance!


What a stupid, uneducated and naive post. That side would easily account for 10 of the 15 SFL sides and challenge if not beat the others.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Magnum Force » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:28 pm

I dont know too much about the SFL so forgive my ignorance,

But i have been reading this thread with a lot of interest, Personally i couldnt care less about the debate between whether clubs would be better off in the SFL or in div 1-7 in the amatuer league, As long as the club is healthy and the players/spectators/volounteers are there and enjoying it.

One of the arguments i keep hearing is that in the top sides or there because they have a strong junior program, which seems to work well in the SFL, is there as big a gap in the junior teams as there is in the senior sides?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:47 pm

just had a read last years thoughts
http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27700

has a dual conference never been discussed??

for example from the ladder split this years odd finishing sides into the ODD CONFERENCE and those who finished 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th etc etc into the EVENS CONFERENCE

this is the ladder from minor rounds ( i dont know the final placings ie Morphettville actually came 2nd)

anyway the ODDS CONFERENCE....

1st Happy Valley
3rd Morphett Vale
5th Edwardstown
7th Christies Beach
9th Port Noarlunga
11th Flagstaff Hill
13th Marion
15th Osb/Lonsdale


and now the EVENS CONFERENCE...
2nd Reynella
4th Morphettville Park
6th Noarlunga
8th Brighton Bombers 2013
10th Cove
12th Hackham
14th Aldinga
16th BYE (Vacancy for a future side)

FINALS...

the top 4 from each conference play in and 8 team finals major round

WHY:

this ensures a bottom side can finish a maximum 4 spots away from the finals, consequently every club truly has hope and evolution is always reachable
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Keyser Soze » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:02 pm

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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Keyser Soze » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:05 pm

marbles wrote:just had a read last years thoughts
http://www.safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=27700

has a dual conference never been discussed??

for example from the ladder split this years odd finishing sides into the ODD CONFERENCE and those who finished 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th etc etc into the EVENS CONFERENCE

this is the ladder from minor rounds ( i dont know the final placings ie Morphettville actually came 2nd)

anyway the ODDS CONFERENCE....

1st Happy Valley
3rd Morphett Vale
5th Edwardstown
7th Christies Beach
9th Port Noarlunga
11th Flagstaff Hill
13th Marion
15th Osb/Lonsdale


and now the EVENS CONFERENCE...
2nd Reynella
4th Morphettville Park
6th Noarlunga
8th Brighton Bombers 2013
10th Cove
12th Hackham
14th Aldinga
16th BYE (Vacancy for a future side)

FINALS...

the top 4 from each conference play in and 8 team finals major round

WHY:

this ensures a bottom side can finish a maximum 4 spots away from the finals, consequently every club truly has hope and evolution is always reachable


Would never work Morphett Vale might not play Reynella in a year....the world would have to freeze over!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Keyser Soze » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:09 pm

Look Good In Leather wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?



No, mine was standing in the middle of the moreland ave oval with all my premiership players singing the club song, I'll never forget it. NEVER EVER FORGET IT. Premierships build culture, like it or not. :lol: Couldn't imagine knowing 8-16 was the best my club could ever be. :(


As opposed to 61-70 in Division 7?


Ask the Reynella A-grade cricketers if there A3 premiership this year was meaningless compared to the footy club....just another uneducated comment from a success starved veggie!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Keyser Soze wrote:
Would never work Morphett Vale might not play Reynella in a year....the world would have to freeze over!


yep true true

8 teams play each other twice = 14 rounds

then what... 4-6 weeks spare.......

how can these be used??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Keyser Soze » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:21 pm

Any player changes at clubs possibly only a few retirements at present which will be hard to replace:

Any other Reynella boys other than Milo pulling the pin?
Is Golding, Comer and Peach going around again at the shoes?
Are Towns losing any with ex-premiership captain Salevic getting the coaching job at Blackwood?
Manhood at Porties to the coaches box, anyone else?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:37 pm

Bloods4Life wrote:
Look Good In Leather wrote:
Yank Man wrote:
marbles wrote:the nights I walked the town with each of my premiership medals around my neck have probably been the best nights of my life, were'nt yours?



No, mine was standing in the middle of the moreland ave oval with all my premiership players singing the club song, I'll never forget it. NEVER EVER FORGET IT. Premierships build culture, like it or not. :lol: Couldn't imagine knowing 8-16 was the best my club could ever be. :(


As opposed to 61-70 in Division 7?


Obviously the amatuer league has too many teams to put in one div so of course it has to be spread out into ten team divs. Whether it be div 2 or div 6 it's just a number. It's only a couple of quality players that separates one div to the next. On any given year depending on recruits/departures the top team in div 5/6 would definately challenge if not beat the bottom teams in div 2. I remember a trial game at the start of the year a particular div 6 team (who didn't make the finals might I add) took it up to Christies beach and lead all day up until halfway through the last quarter until they got run over. No system is perfect and I'm a fan of the all day football on Saturdays that the SFL have. But don't bag the teams in the SAAFL or the league itself just because one poster comes on here and tries to stir the pot.


I like you... Unfortunately Kenilworth wouldn't get within 10 goals of Walkerville. I'm very happy to be proven wrong but....

SFL top 8 is a solid comp imo. Still not as good as GSFL and Hills which as I mentioned back even back around 2000 the SFL along with Western Border were the best comps out side Ammos div 1
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