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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby 1983 » Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:36 pm

words of wisdom wrote:
1983 wrote:Seems to be a lot of people getting there nose out of joint with Aldinga refusing to clear CONTRACTED players. Was told by league officials recently that not clearing contracted players is a common practice within the league, perhaps not with all clubs but with more than you may be led to believe. Even the "cherised" Muddies have been "guilty" of this practice although I'm sure if you ask them they may say differently, players on the receiving end of not being cleared from pongy will say otherwise. Something people also need to remember is that signing a contract to a club in the AFL or SANFL is binding and is very difficult to get out of. You may argue that they get paid, so do contracted A graders in the SFL so why should it be any different within a lower tier league of football?
The reason why this has been so publisized is clubs surrounding Aldinga don't mind the Sharkies receiving a bit more bad press because it means more players leaving Shark Park and more playing for them. This is the same old treatment that we have received for years but now instead of dwelling on it we continue to improve the club and create a more positive attitude about the club.
Also I find it strange PP that you are so quick to tee off at the club even though you are a Aldinga lad, could it be that you are another local that has thrown playing for your LOCAL club in the too hard basket and is playing for SOMEONE ELSES town. If you are so passionate about the Sharkies doing the right thing how about you come down the Shark Park and show that passion by playing for YOUR town?


No player has missed a game of footy. Players who have been contracted to Myponga & wanted to leave, have been let go after the two clubs agreed on a deal. A few years ago i signed a very handy Valley player, he had a change of heart so i let him go. Could of held him out of footy for that year but what do you gain from that? I dont want to see Dingy struggle, lived in Dingy for 20 years & i know Brad & think hes doing a good job. But at the end of the day if someone doesn't want to play for you & i know as a coach i dont want them playing for me, come to an agreement, let them go & move on. This is only a personal opinion.


I remember running into a bloke that I have known since kindy a couple of years ago at a SFL club that we were playing against. I asked him why he wasnt playing on the day and his reply was "Myponga will not clear me, I have put in 3 clearance forms and they have denied each one. We are thinking of taking it to the tribunal." This player was contracted to Myponga A grade and missed 4 or 5 games at his new club. Those clearance forms had been sent over the previous few months. To say that no Myponga player has missed a game at another club because of being held to a Myponga contract is either ill advised or untrue.
I have no problem with Pongi holding their players to a contract, I do have a problem with certain Myponga members trying to smear Aldinga's name in the mud by claiming a supposed moral high ground and then bad mouthing Aldinga with things that Myonga are doing themselves.
Leave us alone so that we can rebuild our club and focus your own efforts on doing the same to your own club.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby the observer » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:46 pm

please wow just remember Tim Heath episode That was nasty from one person That was resolved only when $$ crossed hands and was told he would not be cleared whatever.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby Captain One-eyed » Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:33 pm

the observer wrote:please wow just remember Tim Heath episode That was nasty from one person That was resolved only when $$ crossed hands and was told he would not be cleared whatever.


Both Tim and a player from Happy Valley player although contracted were cleared before the first game after a meeting between the two clubs. Also I believe that any club could get an 18 year old to sign a contract with a few beers and peer group pressure. I"m not saying this was the case with Scott but I do believe 3 year contracts are too long for under21 players in country footy and perhaps there should be a cooling off period after they sign. Also good luck to you guys I understand how hard running a footy club can be. The area is big enough for both clubs to prosper and be successful.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby The Cadet » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:17 pm

* You don't have to sign a contract. You should only sign a contract if your 100 % committed to the club.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby words of wisdom » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:19 pm

the observer wrote:please wow just remember Tim Heath episode That was nasty from one person That was resolved only when $$ crossed hands and was told he would not be cleared whatever.


Wasnt involved with the club when this took place but he never missed a game of footy due to Pongy holding him. Deal was done & Myponga released him from his contract. Fair result for both parties.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby 1983 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:43 pm

Captain One-eyed wrote:
the observer wrote:please wow just remember Tim Heath episode That was nasty from one person That was resolved only when $$ crossed hands and was told he would not be cleared whatever.


Both Tim and a player from Happy Valley player although contracted were cleared before the first game after a meeting between the two clubs. Also I believe that any club could get an 18 year old to sign a contract with a few beers and peer group pressure. I"m not saying this was the case with Scott but I do believe 3 year contracts are too long for under21 players in country footy and perhaps there should be a cooling off period after they sign. Also good luck to you guys I understand how hard running a footy club can be. The area is big enough for both clubs to prosper and be successful.


Have heard this rumour of a few beers and peer pressure getting around a bit. I'll put that to rest, Scott was the one that was keen to sign early, those involved were apprehensive because he was asking for more than we could really afford. In the end those involved went with what he was asking because he is a very good player. As far as beer being involved before or during the signing of the contract, this is untrue. Did they have a beer afterwards? Most likely. Do 18 year old blokes not drink beer with team mates at other clubs?!?
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby 1983 » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:53 pm

It is true that we probably wont get Scott or Bill back, mind you Bill did come have a drink with us Saturday during the A grade, but this would not be a first. Yes Troy, Scott and Bill may well be put off to play for us again but they join a very long list of junior players to leave the club. 99% of these players have not returned and this is not because we upset them by holding them to a contract, they left because the GSFL is more attractive to young players. All clubs have a high turnover of juniors at their clubs but at Aldinga it is abnormally high. This is mainly due to the fact that we are surrounded by 3 GSFL clubs that are playing country footy and have netball sides that follow the footy, two things very attractive to 18 year old kids. We have watched these kids, some of whom have been contracted walk away from the club never to return. On all but one occasion, Troy's, we have not held them to their contract. Something had to be done to stop 18 year old kids signing contracts to the club and then walking away and not honouring the contract. Is this the best way to deal with it? Who knows, but it is better than watching a large stream of contracted players leave the club and not doing anything about it.
As far as the treatment of a Myponga member in the Aldinga BWS, this is not something we condone at the club. Unfortunately we cannot control the actions of our members. There has been mud slung from both sides though, I know coz I've copped it myself and so have others. It would probably be fair to say that members from both sides have been as bad as each other. It is well past time to move past the issue and just play some footy.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby Captain One-eyed » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:03 pm

1983 wrote:It is true that we probably wont get Scott or Bill back, mind you Bill did come have a drink with us Saturday during the A grade, but this would not be a first. Yes Troy, Scott and Bill may well be put off to play for us again but they join a very long list of junior players to leave the club. 99% of these players have not returned and this is not because we upset them by holding them to a contract, they left because the GSFL is more attractive to young players. All clubs have a high turnover of juniors at their clubs but at Aldinga it is abnormally high. This is mainly due to the fact that we are surrounded by 3 GSFL clubs that are playing country footy and have netball sides that follow the footy, two things very attractive to 18 year old kids. We have watched these kids, some of whom have been contracted walk away from the club never to return. On all but one occasion, Troy's, we have not held them to their contract. Something had to be done to stop 18 year old kids signing contracts to the club and then walking away and not honouring the contract. Is this the best way to deal with it? Who knows, but it is better than watching a large stream of contracted players leave the club and not doing anything about it.
As far as the treatment of a Myponga member in the Aldinga BWS, this is not something we condone at the club. Unfortunately we cannot control the actions of our members. There has been mud slung from both sides though, I know coz I've copped it myself and so have others. It would probably be fair to say that members from both sides have been as bad as each other. It is well past time to move past the issue and just play some footy.


Very well said i agree with you
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby words of wisdom » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:15 pm

1983 wrote:It is true that we probably wont get Scott or Bill back, mind you Bill did come have a drink with us Saturday during the A grade, but this would not be a first. Yes Troy, Scott and Bill may well be put off to play for us again but they join a very long list of junior players to leave the club. 99% of these players have not returned and this is not because we upset them by holding them to a contract, they left because the GSFL is more attractive to young players. All clubs have a high turnover of juniors at their clubs but at Aldinga it is abnormally high. This is mainly due to the fact that we are surrounded by 3 GSFL clubs that are playing country footy and have netball sides that follow the footy, two things very attractive to 18 year old kids. We have watched these kids, some of whom have been contracted walk away from the club never to return. On all but one occasion, Troy's, we have not held them to their contract. Something had to be done to stop 18 year old kids signing contracts to the club and then walking away and not honouring the contract. Is this the best way to deal with it? Who knows, but it is better than watching a large stream of contracted players leave the club and not doing anything about it.
As far as the treatment of a Myponga member in the Aldinga BWS, this is not something we condone at the club. Unfortunately we cannot control the actions of our members. There has been mud slung from both sides though, I know coz I've copped it myself and so have others. It would probably be fair to say that members from both sides have been as bad as each other. It is well past time to move past the issue and just play some footy.


Well said. Its time for everyone to move on.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby shoe boy » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:32 pm

You lads have a GUN in J Scarfe and week in week out he is picking up the big forwards?

To date he picked up Revill at Cove 15 goals, Pollard M/Vale 15 goals and Ohagen Porties 8 goals!! Time to play him in the guts the fact he is 4 foot tall raises the question of WHY!!!!

Or just keep playing him there so big Matt can have a day out?
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:58 pm

shoe boy wrote:You lads have a GUN in J Scarfe and week in week out he is picking up the big forwards?

To date he picked up Revill at Cove 15 goals, Pollard M/Vale 15 goals and Ohagen Porties 8 goals!! Time to play him in the guts the fact he is 4 foot tall raises the question of WHY!!!!

Or just keep playing him there so big Matt can have a day out?


He didn't play on Pollard or O'Hagan that I saw - wasn't he in the half-back line??
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby Backliner » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:19 pm

I'd concentrate more on stopping the delivery, can't blame the fullbacks everytime.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby fisho mcspaz » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:44 pm

Backliner wrote:I'd concentrate more on stopping the delivery, can't blame the fullbacks everytime.


That's it in a nutshell - goals are going to get kicked regardless when the ball spends 90% of the time in the other team's forward 50!
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby Bag The Points » Sat May 01, 2010 10:48 am

shoe boy wrote:You lads have a GUN in J Scarfe and week in week out he is picking up the big forwards?

To date he picked up Revill at Cove 15 goals, Pollard M/Vale 15 goals and Ohagen Porties 8 goals!! Time to play him in the guts the fact he is 4 foot tall raises the question of WHY!!!!

Or just keep playing him there so big Matt can have a day out?


If this is the case SB, it looks like he'll get the big panda today !! :shock:
And the guy is running hot !! Could we be in for the first "20" of the season ?
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby Bag The Points » Sat May 01, 2010 8:15 pm

Turns out the Panda wasn't there. Junior still had plenty of work to do though cos Christies still kicked 28
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby fisho mcspaz » Sat May 01, 2010 9:41 pm

Bag The Points wrote:Turns out the Panda wasn't there. Junior still had plenty of work to do though cos Christies still kicked 28


What was the final score? We left in the third quarter after the other half dislocated his elbow. :(
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby 85 WAS A GOOD YEAR » Sat May 01, 2010 10:38 pm

fisho mcspaz wrote:
Bag The Points wrote:Turns out the Panda wasn't there. Junior still had plenty of work to do though cos Christies still kicked 28


What was the final score? We left in the third quarter after the other half dislocated his elbow. :(

Christies 28-10 (178) to Aldinga 4-5 (29)
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby fisho mcspaz » Sat May 01, 2010 11:05 pm

85 WAS A GOOD YEAR wrote:
fisho mcspaz wrote:
Bag The Points wrote:Turns out the Panda wasn't there. Junior still had plenty of work to do though cos Christies still kicked 28


What was the final score? We left in the third quarter after the other half dislocated his elbow. :(

Christies 28-10 (178) to Aldinga 4-5 (29)


Bloody hell. What a whitewash that was in the end. Sharks got the first two goals but it was all downhill from there. Really need some more options up forward. :?
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby 1983 » Mon May 03, 2010 6:28 pm

On the bright side, Aldinga minis belted Port Noarlunga in all grades on Sunday. Wish I could fast forward ten years! and the U14's and U16's missed out on beating Christies by a matter of half a dozen points.
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Re: Aldinga Sharks Forum

Postby fisho mcspaz » Mon May 03, 2010 9:27 pm

1983 wrote:On the bright side, Aldinga minis belted Port Noarlunga in all grades on Sunday. Wish I could fast forward ten years! and the U14's and U16's missed out on beating Christies by a matter of half a dozen points.


That's great news! :D
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