FINALS 2010 - ALL grades

[SCRATCHIN 03]

Congrats to the SFL on a great Grand Final Day ! I've never been a fan of the idea of the GF being at Hickinbotham but I must admit I am warming to it now ... I thought the day was well run and the facilities are excellent. Well done to MPFC & the Lions for the catering.
I must admit I left early to celebrate with our boys but well done to the Wineys for finally breaking through for a win ! (have the bridesmaids dresses been put in mothballs or thrown away ?? - maybe the start of a new power era ??)
I think it's great for the league to have five different clubs win flags on Grand Final day, that's the way it should be.
Of course, I must congratulate our U16 boys on a great win - a powerful performance from a great team - U14 premiers in 2008, U16 premiers in 2010, I predict U18 premiers in 2012 !!
And our U14s were gallant in defeat, well done Valleys - but watch out for the Falcon U14's in 2011 when they are a year older and stronger, they will be awesome !

... and I'm sure everyone is very sad that Cove were the only club represented on Grand Final day that won nothing ..............

Valleys 14s only had 4 players in the team that also won the premiership in 2009 so I would imagine they too will be strong in 2011. HVFC has won 4 14s premierships in 6 years (or maybe 7 years???) So why cant it win flags in older age groups???

Well deserved that Cove won nothing - heard their Mail Medalist was celebrating the 14s premiership in the after with Valleys - his brother plays in that 14s team - looked pretty comfortable.....

May be thats the age they start to work out that their old fella is not just for pissing out of??????

[Mister Footy]

good call scrathin.....

[vics01]

Rush a Point wrote:
Question- Were all Morphett Vale Under 18 players qualified for the finals.

I think they may be questioning
Playing
7 A grade Games
11 B grade games
3 Under 18 games home and away then the three U 18 finals.

I am sure it is just a misunderstanding and the SFL have probably stuffed up the Players Stats/records on their web site.

Good to the BDOS boys on Sunday at the Brighton all cammed up and enjoying the day. After all they had a great season.

Well deserved by Reynella

[Esteban Vihaio]

Rush a Point wrote:
Question- Were all Morphett Vale Under 18 players qualified for the finals.

I think they may be questioning
Playing
7 A grade Games
11 B grade games
3 Under 18 games home and away then the three U 18 finals.

I am sure it is just a misunderstanding and the SFL have probably stuffed up the Players Stats/records on their web site.

Good to the BDOS boys on Sunday at the Brighton all cammed up and enjoying the day. After all they had a great season.

Well deserved by Reynella

Not sure if this rule is still in place, but in the 90's, any junior aged player was eligible to play in b-grade or c-grade finals, even if they played all their games in the a-grade.

[Down the Hill]

Monday morning and I'm still shattered. To correct an earlier post, thats 3 GF losses since our last flag in 2002. The losses being 2004, 2007, 2010. We do have empathy for teams suffering long Premeirship droughts. MV in 2004 and now the Wineys in 2010.

No offence P32 but I think your "massive" profile in the SFL courtesy of this forum may have swayed the umpires. You certainly gave first use of the ball to your mids early in the game when it counted and it seemed you had a strategy to jump up and into Brooky which worked well.

For mine Elijah Ware set things up in the first half especially the first qtr where he kicked 2 goals and set up the other with a lace out pass on his wrong foot to Proccy. The fact he spent time off the ground in the second half and little impact went against him so my next pick was Bradshaw who was the quaterback from defence and his ability to kick 50 metres and still hit a player on the chest makes him so valuable coming out of defence.

Our stats had us with 5 more forward 50 entries for the game but we just couldn't penetrate beyond our half-forward line with many of our entries. Everyone thought the big ground would suit us but in earlier finals our half-back line was able to kick over the half-forward area into the danger spot about 30 metres from goal but we just couldn't run the ball into the midfield area far enough to achieve this on Saturday.

Well done to the Wineys. The best side on the day won and guys like the Prescotts, Milo, Log, Proccy, Ciampa and even that annoying little bugger Frick deserved success for their loyalty and efforts over many years. Now nick off and retire you guys.

I hope everyone is completely over holding the GF anywhere other than SAFC. There is no way any other ground could fit the crowds we are now getting. Its true that sort of crowd in a more compact ground like Glenelg Oval would be even better atmosphere but its still been a pretty good outcome for the SFL. The paddock across the road enables people to have BBQ's and beers by their cars so I don't think anyone can complain anymore.

Lastly, well done to our B grade for at least proving us with some further silverware. Plenty of lads in that team with some good A grade footy ahead of them and some gun Under 18's coming into senior ranks next year. The Bombers won't be going away in a hurry.

[words of wisdom]

Monday morning and I'm still shattered. To correct an earlier post, thats 3 GF losses since our last flag in 2002. The losses being 2004, 2007, 2010. We do have empathy for teams suffering long Premeirship droughts. MV in 2004 and now the Wineys in 2010.

No offence P32 but I think your "massive" profile in the SFL courtesy of this forum may have swayed the umpires. You certainly gave first use of the ball to your mids early in the game when it counted and it seemed you had a strategy to jump up and into Brooky which worked well.

For mine Elijah Ware set things up in the first half especially the first qtr where he kicked 2 goals and set up the other with a lace out pass on his wrong foot to Proccy. The fact he spent time off the ground in the second half and little impact went against him so my next pick was Bradshaw who was the quaterback from defence and his ability to kick 50 metres and still hit a player on the chest makes him so valuable coming out of defence.

Our stats had us with 5 more forward 50 entries for the game but we just couldn't penetrate beyond our half-forward line with many of our entries. Everyone thought the big ground would suit us but in earlier finals our half-back line was able to kick over the half-forward area into the danger spot about 30 metres from goal but we just couldn't run the ball into the midfield area far enough to achieve this on Saturday.

Well done to the Wineys. The best side on the day won and guys like the Prescotts, Milo, Log, Proccy, Ciampa and even that annoying little bugger Frick deserved success for their loyalty and efforts over many years. Now nick off and retire you guys.

I hope everyone is completely over holding the GF anywhere other than SAFC. There is no way any other ground could fit the crowds we are now getting. Its true that sort of crowd in a more compact ground like Glenelg Oval would be even better atmosphere but its still been a pretty good outcome for the SFL. The paddock across the road enables people to have BBQ's and beers by their cars so I don't think anyone can complain anymore.

Lastly, well done to our B grade for at least proving us with some further silverware. Plenty of lads in that team with some good A grade footy ahead of them and some gun Under 18's coming into senior ranks next year. The Bombers won't be going away in a hurry.

Knowing P32 he probably sent them a few bottles of red during the week

[AFLflyer]

Monday morning and I'm still shattered. To correct an earlier post, thats 3 GF losses since our last flag in 2002. The losses being 2004, 2007, 2010. We do have empathy for teams suffering long Premeirship droughts. MV in 2004 and now the Wineys in 2010.

No offence P32 but I think your "massive" profile in the SFL courtesy of this forum may have swayed the umpires. You certainly gave first use of the ball to your mids early in the game when it counted and it seemed you had a strategy to jump up and into Brooky which worked well.

For mine Elijah Ware set things up in the first half especially the first qtr where he kicked 2 goals and set up the other with a lace out pass on his wrong foot to Proccy. The fact he spent time off the ground in the second half and little impact went against him so my next pick was Bradshaw who was the quaterback from defence and his ability to kick 50 metres and still hit a player on the chest makes him so valuable coming out of defence.

Our stats had us with 5 more forward 50 entries for the game but we just couldn't penetrate beyond our half-forward line with many of our entries. Everyone thought the big ground would suit us but in earlier finals our half-back line was able to kick over the half-forward area into the danger spot about 30 metres from goal but we just couldn't run the ball into the midfield area far enough to achieve this on Saturday.

Well done to the Wineys. The best side on the day won and guys like the Prescotts, Milo, Log, Proccy, Ciampa and even that annoying little bugger Frick deserved success for their loyalty and efforts over many years. Now nick off and retire you guys.

I hope everyone is completely over holding the GF anywhere other than SAFC. There is no way any other ground could fit the crowds we are now getting. Its true that sort of crowd in a more compact ground like Glenelg Oval would be even better atmosphere but its still been a pretty good outcome for the SFL. The paddock across the road enables people to have BBQ's and beers by their cars so I don't think anyone can complain anymore.

Lastly, well done to our B grade for at least proving us with some further silverware. Plenty of lads in that team with some good A grade footy ahead of them and some gun Under 18's coming into senior ranks next year. The Bombers won't be going away in a hurry.

i reckon contested ball is where Brighton fell down - no question.
and i dont think any of those guys will retire DTH, all keen to go on for atleast one more, i reckon they will be up for another year. Long time retired I heard of few of them mutter that night.[/b]

[pale ale]

Great game played by Reynella, Early definately had the boys at peak form for this one and well deserved, I agree with youn DTH Elijah set the game up in the first half and Bradshaw was the general at half back all game and again showed why he is rated so highly by a lot in the SFL.

Who was Mark Williams there to watch - anyone know

[the big bang]

Great game played by Reynella, Early definately had the boys at peak form for this one and well deserved, I agree with youn DTH Elijah set the game up in the first half and Bradshaw was the general at half back all game and again showed why he is rated so highly by a lot in the SFL.

Who was Mark Williams there to watch - anyone know

gunna give Elijah a second chance with the dons?

[asert]

If he coaches the bombers I'll turn a sun.... I'm praying for Alan Richardson

[recruiter 10]

Question- Were all Morphett Vale Under 18 players qualified for the finals.

Now that can open a can of worms!! I put it that many juniors who played yesterday wouldnt of known half of their team mates?

I guess you are talking about the 4 under 16s that played in the 18s grand final.
They certainly did know each other.
After winning a premiership together they know each other even better.
What they achieved is price less and can't be taken away from them.

I think it refers to the sides that qualify kids to play finals usually private school lads gotta feel for the lads that play more than the required 6 and then miss out,These clubs usually have little senior success

[asert]

He is fine to play 18s as the b grade were still in and he has qualified for them. If the bs were knocked out he would have been stranded.

[frenzy]

He is fine to play 18s as the b grade were still in and he has qualified for them. If the bs were knocked out he would have been stranded.

That is also my belief. What a disgrace bringing up this now, If cove knew they should have said on the day. Of course if they had won would they still have put in this protest? My guess 'NO'.....

[spot on]

He is fine to play 18s as the b grade were still in and he has qualified for them. If the bs were knocked out he would have been stranded.

That is also my belief. What a disgrace bringing up this now, If cove knew they should have said on the day. Of course if they had won would they still have put in this protest? My guess 'NO'.....

Sour Grapes Cove

[Panther32]

Monday morning and I'm still shattered. To correct an earlier post, thats 3 GF losses since our last flag in 2002. The losses being 2004, 2007, 2010. We do have empathy for teams suffering long Premeirship droughts. MV in 2004 and now the Wineys in 2010.

No offence P32 but I think your "massive" profile in the SFL courtesy of this forum may have swayed the umpires. You certainly gave first use of the ball to your mids early in the game when it counted and it seemed you had a strategy to jump up and into Brooky which worked well.

For mine Elijah Ware set things up in the first half especially the first qtr where he kicked 2 goals and set up the other with a lace out pass on his wrong foot to Proccy. The fact he spent time off the ground in the second half and little impact went against him so my next pick was Bradshaw who was the quaterback from defence and his ability to kick 50 metres and still hit a player on the chest makes him so valuable coming out of defence.

Our stats had us with 5 more forward 50 entries for the game but we just couldn't penetrate beyond our half-forward line with many of our entries. Everyone thought the big ground would suit us but in earlier finals our half-back line was able to kick over the half-forward area into the danger spot about 30 metres from goal but we just couldn't run the ball into the midfield area far enough to achieve this on Saturday.

Well done to the Wineys. The best side on the day won and guys like the Prescotts, Milo, Log, Proccy, Ciampa and even that annoying little bugger Frick deserved success for their loyalty and efforts over many years. Now nick off and retire you guys.

I hope everyone is completely over holding the GF anywhere other than SAFC. There is no way any other ground could fit the crowds we are now getting. Its true that sort of crowd in a more compact ground like Glenelg Oval would be even better atmosphere but its still been a pretty good outcome for the SFL. The paddock across the road enables people to have BBQ's and beers by their cars so I don't think anyone can complain anymore.

Lastly, well done to our B grade for at least proving us with some further silverware. Plenty of lads in that team with some good A grade footy ahead of them and some gun Under 18's coming into senior ranks next year. The Bombers won't be going away in a hurry.

WOW what a whirlwind 3 days!!! Congratulations to all the other winners on the day. Thanks for everyone who said congratulations. I don't know if I would say "massive" there DTH, but that's your opinion. I have to agree the two best on ground were Brady and Elijah, those two blokes are absolute stars! Elijah was probably unlucky to do his hammy otherwise I think he may have won the medal. But every winefly were BOG in my book, great team effort!

[vics01]

asert wrote:
He is fine to play 18s as the b grade were still in and he has qualified for them. If the bs were knocked out he would have been stranded.

Asert, that rule only applies to seniors having two or more teams playing on the one weekend. Juniors must play 6 games in their age group or at least 6 games in the age group below. You can go up but not down.

FRENZY
That is also my belief. What a disgrace bringing up this now, If cove knew they should have said on the day. Of course if they had won would they still have put in this protest? My guess 'NO'.....

COVE didn't know about any possible omission/error and I don't think they have been told of one officially by the SFL.

SPOT ON
Sour Grapes Cove

The Only sour grapes Cove had was the taste of our drinks Saturday afternoon.

Maybe as I said in a previous post it is just an error by the SFL in updating the games played. If not though the lad played all three finals not qualified, which is a major error by the SFL in not picking it up.

If found to be correct it is disaster for the comp. Only thing that the league could do would be to declare no result for the year. There are no winners in this situation.

If I remember rightly didn't Happy Valley 18's get disqualified several years ago for a similar situation??

Aside from all the crap M/Vale played the better footy and deserved their win on the day.

[BIG RED DELICIOUS 2]

Been a crazy 3 days, but what are u on about?

[Pommy Git]

Rush a Point wrote:
Question- Were all Morphett Vale Under 18 players qualified for the finals.

I think they may be questioning
Playing
7 A grade Games
11 B grade games
3 Under 18 games home and away then the three U 18 finals.

I am sure it is just a misunderstanding and the SFL have probably stuffed up the Players Stats/records on their web site.
..........................

It appears that this player may well have been unqualified (if the above figures are correct - going on past efforts by MM of the SFL that would be doubtful though).
Regulation 10.3.ii) Penalties - Team will be disqualified from taking further part in the finals Series and a penalty not exceeding the scheduled fine - (Refer to Schedule of Fines) applied to the club.
The Schedule of Fines shows a maximum of $1500.
As the finals series has been completed, it appears that the fine can be the only penalty imposed.

[vics01]

POMMY GIT
It appears that this player may well have been unqualified (if the above figures are correct - going on past efforts by MM of the SFL that would be doubtful though).Regulation 10.3.ii) Penalties - Team will be disqualified from taking further part in the finals Series and a penalty not exceeding the scheduled fine - (Refer to Schedule of Fines) applied to the club.
The Schedule of Fines shows a maximum of $1500.
As the finals series has been completed, it appears that the fine can be the only penalty imposed.

Given that he is listed as having played in finals against Edwardstown and Brighton, should the disqualification start from the Edwardstown game meaning they should have gone through to meet Brighton and then possibly Brighton or Edwardstown continuing on to the GF. Interesting problem for the SFL.

[Axle Rose]

Well it appears a decision has been reached with MV U18's having their premiership stripped from them and being fined. The club takes responsibility for what appears a complete misunderstanding of the rules. Like stated earlier by ASERT, the club was under the impression the lad could play whilst the B Grade was still playing, backed up by the fact he was not selected for the 2nd final, after the b grade won their first final, earning the week off. Rules are rules, and they were broken regardless of the misunderstanding.

What is an absolute crock of s#!t, is the fact that the league appears to have awarded the premiership to cove. What do Edwardstown and Brighton think about this decision? Pretty sure if Brighton had been given the opportunity, they would have been a real chance at beating cove, given the fact they had beaten them during the year.
Whilst MV will accept their part of the responsibilty, the league seems to have accepted none of the responsibilty for the fact the lad played in 2 previous finals unqualified, with nothing said. Surely, with all the technology these days, it would be an easy thing to avoid if things were done properly.
Example: A MV B grader was suspended in the preliminary final and couldnt play the GF. When the team manager put the GF team in on the thursday night, that players name had been taken from the available list of players to choose from, making it impossible for him to be chosen. Why cant this process be applied to all unqualified players? Too much work maybe? Too hard maybe? Well its time the league took some responsibility and got the right people in the right places so things like this dont happen again. It is embarrasing for everyone involved, not to mentioned absolultely shattering for the players.

As embarrasing as it is, the right decision would surely be to make this years U18 comp a no result. Nothing against the cove side but they are not the only team involved.
Once again, MV accept responsibilty and the penalty. Its about time the league did too.