The Two Escobars

[devilsadvocate]

Did anyone see this on ESPN Doco's last night?

It was fascinating, a really well pu together documentary.

It was extremely sad, with so much violence and suffereing and surprise, surprise, US intervention and terrorism.

It covered the rise and fall of football in Columbia and tjhere was lots of interviews with those involved in the drug cartel side of things.

Pablo (the drug baron) seemed like a decent man, who cared about the poor and was very generous to those in need. He also spent millions on developing football. But he also killed a lot of people, including referees and later on government officials, which was his ultimate undoing.

What really amazed me was how the country spiralled out of control once the goverment asked the US to help fight Pablo's drug cartel and formed the PEPEs to terrorise everybody. It was anarchy. The US killed anyone and everyone. Women, children. DISGRACE.

Andres Escobar, the brilliant footballer, was the big loser. paying for an own goal with his life. The drug cartels who srpung up after Pablo's demise lost lots of money betting on Columbia in '94. Andres paid in blood.

It was a fascinating insight, but such a sad waste of life and unfortunate demise of football in a country brimming with talent.

[johntheclaret]

I was reading a story about the Brazilian goalkeeper Bruno Fernandes. He was having an affair and his girlfriend got pregnant. Then she went missing. Fernandes' cousin dobbed him him saying he had killed her, cut her up and fed the pieces to his dogs. His club, Flamengo, offered thier solicitors to assist on his case until his cousins eveidence came out. Then they dropped him like a hot brick. Fernandes' wife has also been arrested.

He was captain of the Rio De Janeiro club and won the Brazilian league. He has been suspended by his club

He was due to play in the world cup too

[devilsadvocate]

Bloody hell. Hadn't heard about that.

[johntheclaret]

Bloody hell. Hadn't heard about that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/latin_ ... 565346.stm

[ORDoubleBlues]

Yes the Escobar story was not good and apparently he had confided to someone between the goal and his death that he was in fear of how some people would take it.

[7-Dog]

Very good documentary, that I have watched a few times.

Another good one in the 30 for 30 series, Is "Once were brothers" which is based upon the relationship of Yugoslavian Basketballers, Drazen Petrovic & Vlade Divac (less extent, Kukoc & Dino Radja)

[Bum Crack]

what's this escobar docco called? sounds bloody interesting and i'm keen to take a look

[RoosterMarty]

"The Tale of the Two Escobars" is the full name I think but sometimes it's just "The Two Escobars".

It can be tough to find ways to watch these 30 for 30 docos at times, definitely worth the watch though.

[Jase]

Very good documentary, that I have watched a few times.

Another good one in the 30 for 30 series, Is "Once were brothers" which is based upon the relationship of Yugoslavian Basketballers, Drazen Petrovic & Vlade Divac (less extent, Kukoc & Dino Radja)

That one is a brilliant doco...

Felt so sorry for Vlade, with regards to the whole thing... obviously there was some messed up stuff happening at the time which I will never ever be able to comprehend.

People (at times) are just stupid...

[Bum Crack]

Did anyone watch the 30 for 30 episode on Terry Fox??? That was unbelievable what he did. Very inspiring and sad all at the same time.