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Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:54 pm
by JK
Lads,

What happens if a team has used all 3 subs, and then loses their keeper to a Red Card or injury? Has anyone ever seen it happen?

Thanking you in advance,
SeePee

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:58 pm
by Bully
Constance_Perm wrote:Lads,

What happens if a team has used all 3 subs, and then loses their keeper to a Red Card or injury? Has anyone ever seen it happen?

Thanking you in advance,
SeePee


yes player in the field spots. i.e. defender or mid field will put keepers mits and equipment on and become the keeper, think john terry from chelsea did it a few years ago, and remember when Arsenal played Norwich a few years ago in premier league Norwich had to do this, but us gunners still lost, and wenger wasnt to happy that we couldnt score against and ' fill' in keeper

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:59 pm
by JK
Cheers mate, figured that might have been the case bot wasn't %100 sure

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:11 pm
by BALLHOG
Rio Ferdinand had to put the gloves on last season for Man U but can't remember who it was against. Poor fella had no chance of stopping the penalty kick.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:52 pm
by devilsadvocate
Constance_Perm wrote:Lads,

What happens if a team has used all 3 subs, and then loses their keeper to a Red Card or injury? Has anyone ever seen it happen?

Thanking you in advance,
SeePee


Yes, per previous responses, 3 subs is all you get, so an outfield player takes the keepers gloves.

Rio Ferdinand did it for Utd last year in the FA Cup at OT against Pompey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbtgt6amNM0

At the time, I recall asking - WTF was Rooneh doing whispering in RIO's ear beforehand? "What you up to later tonight Rio? Keen to pick up some granny hookers?"

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:25 pm
by Pidge
BALLHOG wrote:Rio Ferdinand had to put the gloves on last season for Man U but can't remember who it was against. Poor fella had no chance of stopping the penalty kick.


It was an FA cup match against Portsmouth. Chelsea played Reading either last season or the one before and had Cech injured early on. He was out for months due to the injury. Then late in the second half Cudicini was injured too, so John Terry had to put on the gloves. It was quite funny.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:27 pm
by JK
Pidge wrote:
BALLHOG wrote:Rio Ferdinand had to put the gloves on last season for Man U but can't remember who it was against. Poor fella had no chance of stopping the penalty kick.


It was an FA cup match against Portsmouth. Chelsea played Reading either last season or the one before and had Cech injured early on. He was out for months due to the injury. Then late in the second half Cudicini was injured too, so John Terry had to put on the gloves. It was quite funny.


Didn't the Chavs have another keeper got injured the same year as Cech .. Namce started with a H I reckon??

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:28 pm
by Pidge
Constance_Perm wrote:
Pidge wrote:
BALLHOG wrote:Rio Ferdinand had to put the gloves on last season for Man U but can't remember who it was against. Poor fella had no chance of stopping the penalty kick.


It was an FA cup match against Portsmouth. Chelsea played Reading either last season or the one before and had Cech injured early on. He was out for months due to the injury. Then late in the second half Cudicini was injured too, so John Terry had to put on the gloves. It was quite funny.


Didn't the Chavs have another keeper got injured the same year as Cech .. Namce started with a H I reckon??


Hilario? Im pretty sure it was Cech and Cudicini out injured for a fair while. Hilario became the first choice goalkeeper for a while and didnt do too bad.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:10 pm
by RoosterMarty
Haha yeah his name was Hilario or something which was pretty damn funny.

The question has been answered though. It is unfortunate that not all teams possess a player like John O'Shea who can fill any position with ease.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:15 pm
by Bully
maybe FIFA should look at something that if the keeper and only the keeper gets injured and all 3 subs have been used then he can be subbed or somthing like that

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:15 pm
by Pidge
Bulldog wrote:maybe FIFA should look at something that if the keeper and only the keeper gets injured and all 3 subs have been used then he can be subbed or somthing like that


No way. Its a part of the game that is good. Seeing people like Terry and Ferdinand jump into goals to cover is good and something different even though it happens only on the odd occasion.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:44 pm
by Dirko
I reckon Adelaide United started the game against Gamba Osaka with 4 outfield players on the bench with young Birighitti starting as Eugene had a suspension and they couldn't be bothered calling up another keeper.

Cornflakes would've taken the gloves.... :lol:

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:46 pm
by Pidge
SJABC wrote:I reckon Adelaide United started the game against Gamba Osaka with 4 outfield players on the bench with young Birighitti starting as Eugene had a suspension and they couldn't be bothered calling up another keeper.

Cornflakes would've taken the gloves.... :lol:


Yeah they were talking about who would be the backup in the news.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:57 pm
by JK
Pidge wrote:
Bulldog wrote:maybe FIFA should look at something that if the keeper and only the keeper gets injured and all 3 subs have been used then he can be subbed or somthing like that


No way. Its a part of the game that is good. Seeing people like Terry and Ferdinand jump into goals to cover is good and something different even though it happens only on the odd occasion.


I agree with not changing the rules ... Before a game starts the rules are the same for each team, so it could just as easily happen for any of them throughout the year.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:00 pm
by Pidge
Constance_Perm wrote:
Pidge wrote:
Bulldog wrote:maybe FIFA should look at something that if the keeper and only the keeper gets injured and all 3 subs have been used then he can be subbed or somthing like that


No way. Its a part of the game that is good. Seeing people like Terry and Ferdinand jump into goals to cover is good and something different even though it happens only on the odd occasion.


I agree with not changing the rules ... Before a game starts the rules are the same for each team, so it could just as easily happen for any of them throughout the year.


The only way it would change is if it happened during a game involving Melbourne Victory. Muscat would get them to change the rules just for him and he would get away with it.

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:07 pm
by JK
Pidge wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:
Pidge wrote:
Bulldog wrote:maybe FIFA should look at something that if the keeper and only the keeper gets injured and all 3 subs have been used then he can be subbed or somthing like that


No way. Its a part of the game that is good. Seeing people like Terry and Ferdinand jump into goals to cover is good and something different even though it happens only on the odd occasion.


I agree with not changing the rules ... Before a game starts the rules are the same for each team, so it could just as easily happen for any of them throughout the year.


The only way it would change is if it happened during a game involving Melbourne Victory. Muscat would get them to change the rules just for him and he would get away with it.


He'd just run the length of the field and knock out the opposition keeper with a flying Cantona Kung Fu kick, just to even the playing field ... Of course Mr Breeze and his merry band of assistants would card the opposition keeper for diving

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:57 pm
by Bully
guess so but yeah may be helpful to some teams but not to others

Re: Silly Question

PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:53 am
by devilsadvocate
RoosterMarty wrote:It is unfortunate that not all teams possess a player like John O'Shea who can fill any position with ease.


No, replace 'not all teams' with 'Tottenham' and I'm with you! ;)

O'Shea is quality. At almost any other club, he's be a starting regular, but is happy playing Fergie's bitch at Utd.

Great to have a player like that.