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Postby JK » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:47 am

Liverpool were lucky to escape with a draw at Eindhoven in the initial Group stage match so they will povide tricky opposition for whomever they draw next (lol as you'd expect I guess in the final 8).

Anyone know the final score from AC Milan v Celtic? (last I heard it was Milan 1-0 in extra time)
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Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:57 am

AC Milan 1-0 winners to progress to the final 8.

Bayern beat Real Madrid 2-1 to progress 4-4 on away goal rule. I'd say it's curtains for Real's coach.
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Postby RoosterMarty » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:14 pm

Kaka scored a wonderful solo goal to end Celtic's run.. bit unfortunate as I was hoping Celtic would knock them out but Milan did have about 38 shots to 8.
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Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:21 pm

devilsadvocate wrote:AC Milan 1-0 winners to progress to the final 8.

Bayern beat Real Madrid 2-1 to progress 4-4 on away goal rule. I'd say it's curtains for Real's coach.


thats a shame :!: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:25 pm

RoosterMarty wrote:Kaka scored a wonderful solo goal to end Celtic's run.. bit unfortunate as I was hoping Celtic would knock them out but Milan did have about 38 shots to 8.


I'd luv to get that bloke to Liverpool, such a fantastic footballer
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Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:45 pm

I agree RE: kaka.

I was tipping that he would be the player of the world cup last year, but didn't really fire.

He is an absolute star. I'm surprised Roman hasn't been offering him oil fields to move to SW London!
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:24 pm

devilsadvocate wrote:I agree RE: kaka.

I was tipping that he would be the player of the world cup last year, but didn't really fire.

He is an absolute star. I'm surprised Roman hasn't been offering him oil fields to move to SW London!


I think Mr Abramovich did actually have a little nibble at him a year or two back, and wouldn't be surprised if he and/or Sir Alex have another crack ... This is the difference IMHO between these clubs and Liverpool, the Reds of the last 5+ years generally try to buy about 4 players valued at 2-10 million pound each, whereas Chelsea and Man U (in particular) will look for 1 or 2 world class players at around 20 million pound each.

Liverpool have Stevie G as the only player to walk into pretty much any club around the world, whereas Man U have Ronaldo & Rooney (but Beckham, Giggs perhaps Scholes before that), and Chelsea has, well, most of the squad lol ... The Reds have improved their depth, they now require another player or two from the top shelf to be an EPL contender.[/url]
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Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:00 pm

The reds just need hazza firing and it will be silverware left right and centre!!!!
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Postby BCC » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:15 pm

im not sure why rafas still got kewell i mean now zenden is fit again, gonzalez is decent and a lot of the premier league games hes playing 3 across the back and riise on the left of midfield... what happened to harry moving neway?
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Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:26 pm

Nnobody wanted him.

I wish spurs had picked him up. We are soooooo bad on the left it's not funny. With harry tearing up the left, lennon smashing the right and ledley king solid at central defence, berbatov and keano would be in for a full-time goal fest even away from the lane.

Rafa loves Harry. With good reason I think. On his day, he's one of the best left wingers in the world.
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:33 pm

Harry is much maligned by many for his ability, and there shouldn't be any question about that because he is VERY talented!

However, I'm not sure how much future he has left at Anfield though (sadly) purely because of his injuries and nothing else .. He still has to make it back onto the park and once he does, there will still be doubt over his pace - I would take a fit Harry over a fit Zenden any day mind you ... Gonzalez can be alright with time, he's still only a baby and this season his first in the EPL has been a settling in process.

We've recruited pretty well in Rafa's time, I think Crouch, Bellamy, Alonso, Garcia, Kuyt and Reina have all proven themselves at the highest level whilst wearing the Red shirt, and have the confidence that both Gonzalez, Agger, Arbeloa, Mascherano etc all will aswell.
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Postby BCC » Thu Mar 08, 2007 4:39 pm

hmmm, what happened to phasing big sammi out... for agger. hes had another solid yr and tho hes not the quickest unit going round hes stil one of the best full backs. oh yeh and dont forget that aurelio is around too, things are lookin pretty bleque for hazz.
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Postby johntheclaret » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:44 am

3 EPL clubs in the final eight with good draws. There is a chance we will see an all EPL semi and maybe a EPL final.
Liverpool, great cup tradition.
Man U & Chelski will be stronger

No doubt UEFA will change the rules if all EPL final, already talking about reducing the number of EPL teams that qualify from next year :twisted:
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Postby devilsadvocate » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:38 am

johntheclaret wrote:3 EPL clubs in the final eight with good draws. There is a chance we will see an all EPL semi and maybe a EPL final.
Liverpool, great cup tradition.
Man U & Chelski will be stronger

No doubt UEFA will change the rules if all EPL final, already talking about reducing the number of EPL teams that qualify from next year :twisted:


Hey JTC good work our your recent contributions to the REAL FOOTBALL threads!

I'd be disappointed to see the number of EPL teams in the CL reduced. The EPL and to a lesser extent La Liga and Serie A are where the real interest lies IMO. Personally, I really only follow the EPL sides closely in the CL. After that, its really just certain players that I follow outside the EPL.

TV Ratings would be diminished if the number of EPL teams was reduced, and going by this seasons results of all 4 EPL sides progressing through the group stages and 3 progressing to the final 8, the EPL is really the premier competition in Europe. The comp deserves to field 4 sides due to its quality and track record of winners.

I'd like to see Liverpool win the Cup.
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Postby johntheclaret » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:03 am

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johntheclaret wrote:3 EPL clubs in the final eight with good draws. There is a chance we will see an all EPL semi and maybe a EPL final.
Liverpool, great cup tradition.
Man U & Chelski will be stronger

No doubt UEFA will change the rules if all EPL final, already talking about reducing the number of EPL teams that qualify from next year :twisted:


Hey JTC good work our your recent contributions to the REAL FOOTBALL threads!

I'd be disappointed to see the number of EPL teams in the CL reduced. The EPL and to a lesser extent La Liga and Serie A are where the real interest lies IMO. Personally, I really only follow the EPL sides closely in the CL. After that, its really just certain players that I follow outside the EPL.

TV Ratings would be diminished if the number of EPL teams was reduced, and going by this seasons results of all 4 EPL sides progressing through the group stages and 3 progressing to the final 8, the EPL is really the premier competition in Europe. The comp deserves to field 4 sides due to its quality and track record of winners.

I'd like to see Liverpool win the Cup.


Cheers Devilsadvocate. Trouble is UEFA has had it in for English clubs for many years, since the days when Liverpool made the European Cup their own in the 70's / 80's, followed by Villa and Cloughies Forrest. Think the cup stayed in England for about 6 consecutive years and with 3 different teams. Added to that Spurs, Everton, Ipswich in the UEFA and Cup Winners Cup. The Heysel Staduim disaster was just the excuse they were looking for and banned all English clubs for 10 years.

I'm not saying this because I am a pom, all you have to do is look at the crowd trouble accross Europe, particularly Holland, and even Italy. Look what happened a couple of years ago when Inter played AC at the San Siro. Match abandoned due to the crowd trouble, for Christ sake someone threw a motorbike off the top teir (please don't ask me how the hell they got it up there in the first place, but the Johnny Cash song 'One piece at a time' springs to mind), and how did UEFA react?, like a puusycat.

Platini is now the new president, whilst a great French player, his dislike of the English is well known. His idea is to reduce the EPL and the La Liga (I think) to 3 teams, and let the smaller footballing nations in, as opposed to the current system where they have to qualify in the knock out rounds.

On that basis DA your points are extremely valid.
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:31 am

Think Platini saw a way in that would garner the necessary support to get him across the line in the recent election ... To my mind the formation they have for the Cup now is spot on and doesn't need to be tampered with, if anything there are too many French teams in there!!
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Postby johntheclaret » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:40 am

Constance_Perm wrote:Think Platini saw a way in that would garner the necessary support to get him across the line in the recent election ... To my mind the formation they have for the Cup now is spot on and doesn't need to be tampered with, if anything there are too many French teams in there!!

Spot on C_P. Used the votes of the lesser nations (in football terms only), by promising reform that would get them into the CL, but I think his motives may have been a bit devious and ulterior.
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Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:45 am

johntheclaret wrote:someone threw a motorbike off the top teir (please don't ask me how the hell they got it up there in the first place, but the Johnny Cash song 'One piece at a time' springs to mind)

Platini is now the new president, whilst a great French player, his dislike of the English is well known. His idea is to reduce the EPL and the La Liga (I think) to 3 teams, and let the smaller footballing nations in, as opposed to the current system where they have to qualify in the knock out rounds.


Except for the fact that people probably got seriosuly hurt in the m'bike incident, that is the funniest thing I've ever heard. How stupid is that!

I agree with CP that the current format is perfect. If they let too many teams in from other weaker national comps, all we'd see is a situation similar to the cricket world cup where the minnows get the pants beaten off them in the group stage (and there's bugger all interest) and all the regular teams progress to the knockout stage anyway.

The only way the smaller comps should be allowed to have participation increased is by results ie winning the UEFA Cup etc. That wont happen this year though cos Spurs will return to glory!!!! :lol: :lol: [-o< [-o<
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Postby JK » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:48 am

johntheclaret wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Think Platini saw a way in that would garner the necessary support to get him across the line in the recent election ... To my mind the formation they have for the Cup now is spot on and doesn't need to be tampered with, if anything there are too many French teams in there!!

Spot on C_P. Used the votes of the lesser nations (in football terms only), by promising reform that would get them into the CL, but I think his motives may have been a bit devious and ulterior.


Any chance it's because Platini and his cohorts are sick of seeing their nations best footballers taken to other, more financial leagues, thus putting their own comps further behind the 8-Ball (Given the CL is often a major factor in choosing clubs in Europe) ... Ie, they see this as their initial way of trying to bridge the gap with EPL and La Liga etc?
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Postby johntheclaret » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:53 am

Constance_Perm wrote:
johntheclaret wrote:
Constance_Perm wrote:Think Platini saw a way in that would garner the necessary support to get him across the line in the recent election ... To my mind the formation they have for the Cup now is spot on and doesn't need to be tampered with, if anything there are too many French teams in there!!

Spot on C_P. Used the votes of the lesser nations (in football terms only), by promising reform that would get them into the CL, but I think his motives may have been a bit devious and ulterior.


Any chance it's because Platini and his cohorts are sick of seeing their nations best footballers taken to other, more financial leagues, thus putting their own comps further behind the 8-Ball (Given the CL is often a major factor in choosing clubs in Europe) ... Ie, they see this as their initial way of trying to bridge the gap with EPL and La Liga etc?


Quite possible C_P. Most of the Arsenal team were made up of French imports, Henry the best of them, and that is a real issue. France won the World Cup, runners up lat time and yet few play in the French league.
Don't forget the French and the English don't get on that well either. They've never really forgiven us for Waterloo and WWII :wink:
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