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Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:14 pm
by Wedgie
nuggety goodness wrote:Sorry Wedgie to burst your bubble mate...

You've lost me and everyone else mate, they're through, trust us.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:17 pm
by Jim05
mighty hounds wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:going by the table of 3rd placed teams at this point it looks like this
Northern Ireland - Pts 3 GD +1 GF 2

Disciplinary points 6; Uefa coefficient 22,961

Slovakia - Pts 3 GD 0 GF 3
Disciplinary points 4; Uefa coefficient 27,171

Portugal - Pts 2 GD 0 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 35,138

Czech Republic - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,403

Romania - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 3; Uefa coefficient 28,038

Sweden - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,028

The top four teams go into the second round based on this ranking.

If it's based on points Slovakia are now top with 4 points but if Portugal and Sweden win then they will jump Northern Ireland on points but the Portugal position depends on what happens with Iceland. i haven't read it properly but I'm assuming all those other categories are for tie-breakers?

Northern Ireland are through


Oh the lowest they can finish is fourth, my math is good :lol:

Yep
Albania and Turkey are the two in danger. Austria, Ireland and Sweden need a win to get in whilst a draw would most likely see Portugal through

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:34 pm
by mighty hounds
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:going by the table of 3rd placed teams at this point it looks like this
Northern Ireland - Pts 3 GD +1 GF 2

Disciplinary points 6; Uefa coefficient 22,961

Slovakia - Pts 3 GD 0 GF 3
Disciplinary points 4; Uefa coefficient 27,171

Portugal - Pts 2 GD 0 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 35,138

Czech Republic - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,403

Romania - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 3; Uefa coefficient 28,038

Sweden - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,028

The top four teams go into the second round based on this ranking.

If it's based on points Slovakia are now top with 4 points but if Portugal and Sweden win then they will jump Northern Ireland on points but the Portugal position depends on what happens with Iceland. i haven't read it properly but I'm assuming all those other categories are for tie-breakers?

Northern Ireland are through


Oh the lowest they can finish is fourth, my math is good :lol:

Yep
Albania and Turkey are the two in danger. Austria, Ireland and Sweden need a win to get in whilst a draw would most likely see Portugal through


Why did they need to change it anyway, what was wrong with he 7 groups they always have.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:40 pm
by nuggety goodness
Im lost even more now... i will just shut up...

So it'll be 16 in the second round... out of 24...

I didn't look into it properly, just shot from the hip...

You're right Wedgie, get on Northern Ireland!

So how do they work out the next rounds games? A bit messy...

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:44 pm
by Jim05
mighty hounds wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Jim05 wrote:[quote="mighty hounds"]going by the table of 3rd placed teams at this point it looks like this
Northern Ireland - Pts 3 GD +1 GF 2

Disciplinary points 6; Uefa coefficient 22,961

Slovakia - Pts 3 GD 0 GF 3
Disciplinary points 4; Uefa coefficient 27,171

Portugal - Pts 2 GD 0 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 35,138

Czech Republic - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,403

Romania - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 2
Disciplinary points 3; Uefa coefficient 28,038

Sweden - Pts 1 GD -1 GF 1
Disciplinary points 8; Uefa coefficient 29,028

The top four teams go into the second round based on this ranking.

If it's based on points Slovakia are now top with 4 points but if Portugal and Sweden win then they will jump Northern Ireland on points but the Portugal position depends on what happens with Iceland. i haven't read it properly but I'm assuming all those other categories are for tie-breakers?

Northern Ireland are through


Oh the lowest they can finish is fourth, my math is good :lol:

Yep
Albania and Turkey are the two in danger. Austria, Ireland and Sweden need a win to get in whilst a draw would most likely see Portugal through


Why did they need to change it anyway, what was wrong with he 7 groups they always have.[/quote]
Euro's have been a 16 team comp for about the last 20 years with 4 groups of 4. This year they increased the entrants to 24 so had to come up with a new format and TBH I think the format is terrible and is far from equal for all sides

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:42 am
by johntheclaret
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Oh the lowest they can finish is fourth, my math is good :lol:

Yep
Albania and Turkey are the two in danger. Austria, Ireland and Sweden need a win to get in whilst a draw would most likely see Portugal through


Why did they need to change it anyway, what was wrong with he 7 groups they always have.

Euro's have been a 16 team comp for about the last 20 years with 4 groups of 4. This year they increased the entrants to 24 so had to come up with a new format and TBH I think the format is terrible and is far from equal for all sides

Totally agree

Still England get Iceland for finishing 2nd in our group
Wales could end up playing Portugal for finishing 1st

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:07 am
by Keefy
Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Walesv Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:14 am
by Wedgie
Great win by Ireland over Italy! 2 teams through! :)

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:27 am
by johntheclaret
Wedgie wrote:Great win by Ireland over Italy! 2 teams through! :)

And all 3 home nations through too.
Wales v N Ireland, looks a good match.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:42 am
by Dogwatcher
Keefy wrote:Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Walesv Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland


Tat match-up's good for Hodgson - he's been under (home) fires.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:53 pm
by mighty hounds
Dogwatcher wrote:
Keefy wrote:Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Walesv Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland


Tat match-up's good for Hodgson - he's been under (home) fires.


is it? i wouldn't be surprised if Iceland beat them.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:25 pm
by RB
Jim05 wrote:Euro's have been a 16 team comp for about the last 20 years with 4 groups of 4. This year they increased the entrants to 24 so had to come up with a new format and TBH I think the format is terrible and is far from equal for all sides

There are way too many teams in it this year. 24 teams is ridiculous given that that's almost half of Europe. Might as well have 80 teams at the World Cup.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:16 pm
by westozfalcon
Keefy wrote:Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Wales v Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland



Italy's 'reward' for topping their group is a meeting with current champions Spain. Nice one!
On the other hand Belgium, group runners-up to Italy, get Hungary :shock:

The England/Wales group was well looked after considering the opponents they drew.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:39 am
by Jim05
The Swiss level it late and it's off to ET

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:48 am
by Dogwatcher
mighty hounds wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
Keefy wrote:Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Walesv Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland


Tat match-up's good for Hodgson - he's been under (home) fires.


is it? i wouldn't be surprised if Iceland beat them.


Iceland could roll them. But I'm sure the Poms would still rather face them than, say Italy or France.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:51 am
by Dogwatcher
How good was Shaqiri's equaliser?
Not enough to get them through, though.

18 minutes in - Wales score a goal ruled off side against Northern Ireland.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:03 am
by nuggety goodness
Dogwatcher wrote:How good was Shaqiri's equaliser?
Not enough to get them through, though.

18 minutes in - Wales score a goal ruled off side against Northern Ireland.

Absolute cracker! The real question is, could he do it on a wet and windy night at Stoke?

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:42 am
by mighty hounds
Dogwatcher wrote:
mighty hounds wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
Keefy wrote:Round of 16 matches

Switzerland v Poland
Croatia v Portugal
Walesv Northern Ireland
Hungary v Belgium
Germany v Slovakia
Italy v Spain
France v Ireland
England v Iceland


Tat match-up's good for Hodgson - he's been under (home) fires.


is it? i wouldn't be surprised if Iceland beat them.


Iceland could roll them. But I'm sure the Poms would still rather face them than, say Italy or France.


The way they have gone in major tournaments they'd would probably be happy just progressing. After all to be the best you've got to beat the best.

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:43 am
by mighty hounds
nuggety goodness wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:How good was Shaqiri's equaliser?
Not enough to get them through, though.

18 minutes in - Wales score a goal ruled off side against Northern Ireland.

Absolute cracker! The real question is, could he do it on a wet and windy night at Stoke?


:lol: :lol:

Re: Euros 2016

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:17 am
by johntheclaret
Dogwatcher wrote:How good was Shaqiri's equaliser?
Not enough to get them through, though.


It was excellent but also off side
The second the Swiss number 7 moved his head out of the way of the ball he was interfering with play and therefore offside.
Unfortunately the officials are given too much discretion on the rule, probably necessitated by the stupidity of it, that they often don't fully appreciate the 'interfering with play' breech.

Still Poland went through so I suppose it's all academic