Lazio's Corva Nord disbands

[Il Duce]

The CN released a communique today Saying That in opposition to the " card of the Fan " ( Fan ID cards) , and They Will Disband No longer will enter the stadium as a group or Participate in coreographies . Mah !


Card fans, press Curva Nord : "We decided to disband and leave our house "
09/07/2010 18:33 Daniele Baldini article read 429 times
Source: The Ultras Lazio

In the face of yet another massacre perpetrated to bored with the fans and drive people away from the stadiums , we have sadly reached the decision to disband and leave that for us has always been our second home : the North Curve of the Olympic Stadium .
We know that many people perceive our point of view without having to read a statement, but in this case we want to explain the motivations of the most painful and painful choices.
We are always Ultras ! And we as individuals who love freedom .
Once the system took away the young from the streets and put them in a stadium to "control " and " limit " their desire for rebellion. Today that same system has completely eradicated aggregations youth mass in the streets of our cities has been lost for many children , the sense of community in a home , a section of a circle or just a bar. Today they want to try to close the youth at home in front of the Playstation , Xbox , before computers, social networking, the pay-TV films in 3D. Remained healthy and free single form groups of young people in the territory to eliminate ... Curves of stages populated by the Ultras . Hence the "brilliant "idea of the card 's fan . We, as free men , will never accept that "someone" decides whether or not we enter the stadium to support our Lazio. Never accept a priori that we prevent our friends not to subscribe . Never accept , in general, that "someone" decides for us. We like to think that the vast majority of people think as we, as conscious of the high value of their personal freedom of ultras , supporters , but also and not least, the citizen , will never accept a filing prior ! perhaps not enough CCTV cameras , directional microphones , mobile phones under control, the seizure of computer memories to monitor and control all ? ! ? !
The Ultras born free , indispensable condition under which it was born. Therefore we, the Lazio Ultras of the Curva Nord , in this dirty game we are not . We will still cannon fodder.
You are wrong who think that we have accepted the fact that the system does not take more calcium . We do not want it anymore !
Via the ultras curves ! Away with the chorus and choreography . Let the stadiums are what "they" want the " great " cathedrals in the desert ! They tried to convince us that because of violence caused , incidentally , provided by the Ultras , the stadiums are empty. Too bad not remember that 70-80-90 years was much worse ... but all the stadiums were full. No sir , the stadiums are empty now because there are pay-TV are empty because the tickets are too expensive for a family and a boy who learns , are empty because the stadiums are inadequate and it is impossible to park a car, are Why go empty for a Sunday game we are all forced to the filing, are empty today because those who make laws and football fans inside a stadium there is never entered , a flag has never flown a smoke not the ' has never switched on a train to go away with friends has never taken a scarf she never made .
Do not shoot, because Lazio us!
we are simply not there anymore ! We believe that anyone is ' ULTRAS Back ' Keep doing GROUPS , MAKE A CHOREOGRAPHERS , to launch in bad faith or CHOIRS NOT BE WITHOUT ON Spit 30 YEARS OF HISTORY AND TRADITION OF MOVEMENT AT NATIONAL LEVEL !
Not follow any other explanation, other releases, other lines of thought.
This is our way , this is our be

[johntheclaret]

Wow, I didn't know the Sturt Cheersquad had an Italian branch

[Il Duce]

Wow, I didn't know the Sturt Cheersquad had an Italian branch

So you never been around the sturt cheersquad then...geez its eye-tie central there

[Il Duce]

I was one of those people but unlike most of the others, I have been left seriously disillusioned by football over the past few days. I’m specifically talking about Italian football and the ramifications of the tessera del tifoso. I have followed the concept of the tessera del tifoso for several months now and I have never liked the idea at any stage. Now that it has finally been introduced, I decided to ask a Rome-based Lazio fan a few questions regarding the draconian new measure being implemented and this allowed me to gain a greater understanding of the tessera. I’d like to thank Lucky Strike for his assistance; Laziofever readers may be familiar with his excellent posts.

For those who don’t follow the off pitch stuff as closely as what takes place on it, the Italian interior minister Maroni (of the Lega Nord party) has championed the introduction of the “tessera del tifoso”, an identity card for football fans. To purchase a season ticket, one must now also sign up for a tessera. To buy tickets to away games, a tessera is a required document. For those of us who travel to Italy, away games are no longer an option. Likewise, home games considered “at risk”, which usually have been games against the likes of Napoli, will also be off limits to those without a tessera.

How does one get a tessera? Well, each club has its own version. Lazio’s is called the “millenovecento”. It is a card on the Mastercard network, produced by PostePay, a division of Poste Italiane, the largest postal service operating in Italy, which is government run and floated on the stock market. In addition to being able to purchase match tickets to any game, the holder of a tessera will be eligible for certain discounts on official merchandise and even non-football related things such as banking. To apply for the card, you need three small passport sized photographs and to complete an application form. Once submitted, the police will review the application and within 1-2 weeks the card will be issued. After this, the tessera holder is free to purchase their season ticket. The card is valid for 5 years and costs 15 euro, although free to existing season ticket holders.

The effect it will have is largely hard to determine at this stage. Certainly, the Lazio ultras will not apply for the tessera. Nor will the Catania and Napoli (see pic above) ultras. They will more than likely be joined by most of the hardcore right across the peninsula. They see it is a provocation and a restriction on their own freedom and will simply protest against it by refusing to accept it. Currently, only the ultras of the Milanese clubs have accepted the tessera, a move which has attracted much disgust from fans right across Italy. Roma too, have managed to sell 15,000 tessere. I’m not sure if these have been bought by ultras though, or just casual fans.

It goes without saying that, among football fans, the tessera is an unpopular measure. Identity cards generally don’t gather a whole lot of support from people. Protests have been held and they had a significant effect, as the introduction of the tessera was delayed by six-months. Ultimately though, it will now be a required document and the ultras of Lazio have decided to leave the stadium. They have been followed by the fans of Catania. Over the coming weeks, we will be able to gather the reactions of the different sets of fans right across Italy. Certainly, in contrast, the fans of Inter and Roma have accepted the tessera. Other Italian fans, particularly the ultras, look down on this. To them, the tessera is a tool to restrict freedom and to eradict their tradition and style of support from the game of football.

Looking at the reactions of Lazio ultras in particular a bit closer, we see that things are not looking good for a vibrant Curva Nord. Banda Noantri, who have led the Curva since the Siena match last season will not even buy match tickets where allowed. They see the ideals of football as corrupted, as it is no longer the game of old. In other words, they feel that commercial interests combined with restrictive control over fans in an attempt to quash the ultras culture is ruining football. They have a strong case. The tessera is clearly being promoted by commercialism, as we can see by all the “benefits” of signing up for a tessera, while the big pay-TV companies have been controlling football for well over a decade now. It is no secret that the authorities have long harboured a desire to bring about an end to the ultras movement. The former Irriducibili leaders Toffolo and Paolo Arciveri (who were imprisoned for quite some time without a trial) believe that the fans should refuse the tessera but still buy match tickets at a greater expense and attend matches where possible.

The tessera does nothing to stop any potential violence. It prevents fans from purchasing tickets in the away sector of a ground, but it doesn’t prevent anyone travelling to another city with the intention of violent conflict. The vast majority of ultras aren’t violent anyway, and the tessera will hardly discourage those who want to go and look for trouble to do so. All that is likely, is a dramatic decrease in the attendance at matches. The authorities will hope for a drastic increase in the number of casual fans who attend games, as only that would vindicate their claims that the violent ultras intimidate them from going to the football.

If history is any indication, without Curva Nord, Lazio attendances will be well under 10,000 each week. At matches seen as unimportant, such as the meaningless European tie with Levski, a partially full Curva was the entire attendance. Similarly, when the curva protested against the Lotito management against Fiorentina, only about 5000 of the “ordinary” fans turned up to watch their side play a night game against high profile opponents. Many smaller provincial sides, particularly those playing in the lower leagues would barely have 100 fans at matches if it weren’t for their ultras: loyal, parochial and passionate about their hometown. To me, the ultras are the heart and soul of Italian football. It is this heart and soul that is being eradicated by the tessera, not the violent minority.

[pels]

Pretty poor from regarding the introduction of an identity card for football fans.
Well done to all the opponents of this identity card, I would think a lot of football fans in Italy would be disillusioned by this decision, as you have said a lot of clubs crowd figures will be going down.
Unfortunately its not just football that is being controlled by commercial interests combined with restrictive control over people,its creeping into all forms of society..
Big Brother wants to know what everyone is doing

Cog have a song that goes "nothing is sacred anymore" how appropriate

[johntheclaret]

Hey ID, Cossi, Pels,

I've been reading a book by a guy call Tim Parks, an English author who has spent the last 30 years living in Italy and in particular Verona. He supports Hellas Verona and decided to follow them home and away (he was already a season ticket holder and went to all the home games). a
Anyway his book is a diary of the Hellas season 2001 when they were in the Serie A. It really is a great read, and he tags along with the Brigate Gialloblu who have the Curva Sud.

Funny, but when I was younger, I followed the clarets home and away and everything he writes about brings back similar memories. The overhanded policing, the comradrery and most of all the the passion. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to get a feel for what it is like to follow your team to away games.

Even though I have a box at Burnley now, I more often than not go away with one of the supporters clubs and stand on the terraces. The atmosphere in the away end is 100 times more intense than anything you can feel in the home end.

Anyway, the books called A Season with Verona by Tim Parks

Vaffanculo bastardi rovers
cazzo merde

[pels]

Hey ID, Cossi, Pels,

I've been reading a book by a guy call Tim Parks, an English author who has spent the last 30 years living in Italy and in particular Verona. He supports Hellas Verona and decided to follow them home and away (he was already a season ticket holder and went to all the home games). a
Anyway his book is a diary of the Hellas season 2001 when they were in the Serie A. It really is a great read, and he tags along with the Brigate Gialloblu who have the Curva Sud.

Funny, but when I was younger, I followed the clarets home and away and everything he writes about brings back similar memories. The overhanded policing, the comradrery and most of all the the passion. I would recommend it to anyone who wants to get a feel for what it is like to follow your team to away games.

Even though I have a box at Burnley now, I more often than not go away with one of the supporters clubs and stand on the terraces. The atmosphere in the away end is 100 times more intense than anything you can feel in the home end.

Anyway, the books called A Season with Verona by Tim Parks

Vaffanculo bastardi rovers
cazzo merde

I have read this book, it was a fantastic read and a great insight into the Italian football fan. The first bus trip away to Bari was pure gold.
Definitely recommend it

[devilsadvocate]

The atmosphere in the away end is 100 times more intense than anything you can feel in the home end.

I got to 3 Spurs games as an away fan and totally agree with this. The away fans are like they're on a mission. They sing and carry on from start to finish and it's a brilliant way to watch football. I met loads of random Yids going to away games.

Vaffanculo bastardi rovers
cazzo merde

LMFAO!