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With Brad Hodge being the 394th Australian player and with the possibility that Phil Jaques may become the 395th this raises the question who will be number 400..

Just for the record

100th JW McLaren vs England 1911/12
200th PJP Burge vs England 1954/55
300th PH Carlson vs England 1978/79

Cameron White ha ha.

regards,

REB

It will be a New South Welshman

And rightly so Punkybrooster..we ARE the best after all.

regards,

REB

fergie or cossie

what has jacques done this year for NSW?

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Thank you sir may I have another. If you make enough predictions eventually you get one right. Jacques has been scoring shitloads of runs the last two years including a couple of double centuries and a 150-odd against Bichel and Kaspro in a one dayer earlier in the season.

A well deserved selection.

regards,

REB

Dan Cullen.
Cosgrove.

Jimmy wrote:fergie or cossie

what has jacques done this year for NSW?

Three successive ING Cup centuries (including two not out 150s). Continues his instrumental form in both the four-day format and the 50-over game. Now he's finally getting his chance to move into the upper echelon of cricket.

It would be an absolute joke if anyone but Jacques got the nod for the Melbourne Test Match.

Want to know why NSW have so many Test players?

SHEFFIELD SHIELD TALLY:
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New South Wales - 44
Victoria - 26
Western Australia - 15
South Australia - 13
Queensland - 5
Tasmania - 0

Jaques will,and deserves to be number 395,but who will make his debut in the next year to 18 months?

Cosgrove?
North?

It might be a 'keeper to replace Gilly in a year or so,I know,Phil Emery.

Phil Emery ha ha. A great career but imagine losing Gilchrist in order to keep Philly babes!

regards,

REB

Hartley from Queensland will be the next Aussie keeper

excuse while I break into a cold sweat and collapse into a fetal position for agreeing with a Port supporter but yep but the Qld tradition will continue:

Tallon, Grout, McLean, Healy, Hartley

In answer to the origional question, Brett Dorey.

Admit New South Wales is the best (after all they do have the biggest population) but what about some fringe players over the years that have somehow got a test or one day guernsey

Dave Gilbert
Phil Emery
Murray Bennett
Gavin Robertson
Greg Dyer
Shane Lee
Bob Holland (had one good test but debuting at 38!!!!)

Proof that when in doubt, they pick someone from NSW.

ORDoubleBlues wrote:In answer to the origional question, Brett Dorey.

Admit New South Wales is the best (after all they do have the biggest population) but what about some fringe players over the years that have somehow got a test or one day guernsey

Dave Gilbert
Phil Emery
Murray Bennett
Gavin Robertson
Greg Dyer
Shane Lee
Bob Holland (had one good test but debuting at 38!!!!)

Proof that when in doubt, they pick someone from NSW.

Fairly selective 'proof' if you ask me (which you didn't ). While none of the players listed are champions you have to go back to the time that they were selected to discuss the merits of their selection. At the time Gilbert and Bennett were selected in particular there were a lot of dodgy players getting a gig due to the Rebel tours and that Australian cricket was at it's weakest point, perhaps ever.

Dyer was just one of many dodgy keepers we had after Marsh and before Healy and if Wayne Phillips was good enough at test level Dyer wouldn't have got the gig in the first place. Knocking Holland or Bennett is a bit rude as that 'one good test' was against one of the strongest test teams I have ever seen (Windies 84-85) and played a significant role in ending a run of 11 test victories for the then world champions (check out how many players Australia went through that season). Holland got a gig in England in 1985 on the strength of that test, and remember there was no Warne back then, heck, there wasn't even a Tim May or Stewie Magill back then.

People also forget that Shane Lee was a more than a handy cricketer. If injuries hadn't curtailed his career he could have been that allrounder that Australia has so desperately been seeking for so long, Lee could play make no mistake. Phil Emery was just in the right place at the right time when Healy got injured. Some of the other keepers who were in the running included such lightweights as Richard Soule( ho ho), Darren Berry and Peter Anderson, Emery was better than all of them and deserved the one shot he had (not sure if Tim Zoehrer was still around but he had a Hookesy/Jones outspokeness that probably cost him).

Gavin Robertson? Yep, can't defend that selection as he was a poor man's Greg Matthews, but again, in the right place at the right time. As for the biggest population..what a crock of 5hit that arguement is...if that was a true indicator of cricket talent we would never win the Ashes because England's population is bigger. And as for getting a one day guernsey, there are dodgy players from every state who managed that, not just the Blues (and it still happens today, Johnson's not ready and White is nowhere near it IMO).

The NSW myth is one of the biggest jokes around in domestic cricket. Do you honestly think that the selectors give a 5hit what state the player comes from when they sit down to select the national side? And if it is true, that NSW players get in first..well, it isn't working very well is it? Australian cricket is in real trouble and we can't win a test series because of all of these dodgy NSW blokes NOT LMAO.

CASE DISMISSED

regards,

REB

Agree with most of your points REB but Emery better that Berry? Have to agree to disagree on that one and as for rating Shane Lee......granted he had injury problems that hampered him and ultimetly ended his career but neither strong enough with the ball nor bat to be playing international cricket. Same goes for the current crop of so called 'allrounders'. As far as i am concerned a player must be able to be selected on the basis of one of there skills with the other being a bonus. Can't see any one of Watson, Symonds or White getting picked as a batsman if they couldn't bowl or visa-versa. Australia is too concerned with having a player like Fintoff but he is one of those very rare players who would get picked as a batsman if he couldn't bowl and a bowler if he couldn't bat. No-one in Australia is at that level at the moment.

As for the 400th test player my guess is Dan Cullen.

Can't agree that it's totally a myth REB and it certainly wasn't a myth for Simon Katich when he transferred there after getting dropped (due to poor form as much as any politics) from the WA team. For several years there was a better keeper than Emery in NSW but he had to go elsewhere because he couldn't get a game.
You won't stir me up with the Phillips comment either 'cos I know he wasn't good enough.

Not trying to stir you up mate, heaven's no

regards,

REB

Phil Jacques has been in great form and deserves to be in the boxing day test.
Watched him spank SA in the ing cup game last sunday and he is a quality player.
Daniel Cullen to be the 400th test player for Australia, by far the best off spinner in the country and if he keeps improving could be the man to replace Warne.

After the World Cup in 2007. Rofe in for a retired McGrath