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What’s India’s full strength side???

Gil
Sharma
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Pant
Jadeja
Ashwin
Siraj
Bumrah
Shami

PatowalongaPirate wrote:Need to get Rohit out cheaply, he can score at a rapid clip.

Agree
Also need to get Thangarasu Natarajan out as well

No Pat Cummins at this stage, our time to show some heart. Sadly I don’t think Starc is up to it.

whufc wrote:No Pat Cummins at this stage, our time to show some heart. Sadly I don’t think Starc is up to it.

Would love to see Starc try going around the wicket to square the batsmen up however I don't think tactics is his thing.

Should be a good day of test cricket tomorrow provided the weather does its bit.

Bit of pressure on the Aussies to get the job done tomorrow (bar rain). Wouldn't want to lose to a second string Indian side on a wearing pitch where they were lucky they won the toss to.

India to keep the Border Gavaskar trophy, cant see the Aussies getting 5 wickets let alone 10

amber_fluid wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:I'd rather they send Starc in before Cummins

Yep and Lyon.
Cummins is struggling big time with the bat.

I posted last test match about this, Cummins 28* has saved him today, his highest score since he made 63 against India at the MCG in 2018.
His scores in this series before today are- 0, 9, 22 and 0.
Starc scores for the series- 1, 20*, 24, 7, 14* and 15.

Cummins career average 16.46
At 8- 13.67
At 9- 25.88

Starc career average 22.16
At 8- 18.63
At 9- 21.95

It's probably a moot point but I'd like to see Starc at 8 above Cummins.

Wasnt a lot of pressure on Cummins innings today though, he has failed miserably when the pressure has been on this series.

RB wrote:One of the reasons Brett Lee's career fizzled out when he was only about 30 (I know he'd had injuries) was that he bowled relentlessly short. You're just not going to take many wickets bowling like that to specialist batsmen. And he stopped being effective because you don't take many wickets bowling constantly at that length.

Lee turned 30 in November 2006 and played test cricket until December 2008 and I was of the view that Lee had his best years of test cricket once McGrath retired in January 2007 when he became the leader of the Australian bowling attack for a couple of years. Along with Gilchrist Lee is my favourite Australian cricketer so naturally I looked into this.
After he turned 30 Lee played 22 tests, took 99 wickets @29.47 at a SR of 54.8 and an Economy of 3.22.
Before 30 he played 54 tests, took 211 wickets @31.45 at a SR of 52.5 and an Economy of 3.58.
I also looked at his career summary break down of year by year/summer by summer. Taking the stats into account I don't think Lee's test career fizzled out as much as you might think but his last summer (when he was 32) where he averaged 47.80 and a SR of 84.1 maybe be the one you remember and the one you're referring too?

Rik E Boy wrote:

JK wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Rik E Boy wrote:How shit is Wade.

Wade, Wade, hit him with a spade.

Doug Wade?

I'd rather him bat at five.

regards,

REB

He'd have better hands behind the stumps!

With his 55 today Steve Smith now has 7540 test runs going past Mark Taylor and is now in 8th spot on the most test runs for Australia list, 156 runs behind Justin Langer.

Looks like most of the forecast rain tomorrow is going to pass by early morning, so hopefully we don't lose too much time, if any.

The Dark Knight wrote:

RB wrote:One of the reasons Brett Lee's career fizzled out when he was only about 30 (I know he'd had injuries) was that he bowled relentlessly short. You're just not going to take many wickets bowling like that to specialist batsmen. And he stopped being effective because you don't take many wickets bowling constantly at that length.

Lee turned 30 in November 2006 and played test cricket until December 2008 and I was of the view that Lee had his best years of test cricket once McGrath retired in January 2007 when he became the leader of the Australian bowling attack for a couple of years. Along with Gilchrist Lee is my favourite Australian cricketer so naturally I looked into this.
After he turned 30 Lee played 22 tests, took 99 wickets @29.47 at a SR of 54.8 and an Economy of 3.22.
Before 30 he played 54 tests, took 211 wickets @31.45 at a SR of 52.5 and an Economy of 3.58.
I also looked at his career summary break down of year by year/summer by summer. Taking the stats into account I don't think Lee's test career fizzled out as much as you might think but his last summer (when he was 32) where he averaged 47.80 and a SR of 84.1 maybe be the one you remember and the one you're referring too?

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Yeah I suppose I was thinking of that summer. Although I do recall Lee (and the other pace bowlers) bowling way too short in the '05 Ashes.

His yorker was really effective as well in the early 2000s, but from memory he just didn't seem to bowl anything that wasn't short, or really vary his bowling much at all, late in his career, although it looks like maybe I'm only recalling his last season.

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Looks like most of the forecast rain tomorrow is going to pass by early morning, so hopefully we don't lose too much time, if any.

See a place about 30km away from the Gabba has had 174mm of rain in the last 3 hours, looks like theres heaps now heading towards brisbane itself, going to be a monster cleanup job one would think

What is with the Australian top order batsmen when they're given out ? They just stand around thinking they've been hard done by all the time.
Just get off the ground unless it's a howler of a decision and then review it.
Warner hangs around for about 20 seconds knowing he was plumb LBW and then blows a review
Then how the hell does Smith review his? You'd have to be pretty dumb not to know his hand was on the bat at point of impact because it was the impact of the ball that knocked his hand off the bat but stands there in disbelief before wasting more time and another review by reviewing it.
I try to like Australia and i do admire a number of the players but overall i just cant get passionate about supporting a team that just continues to fail the spirit of cricket test.

We cant deny that India at full strength is the better side but I don't think Australia is too far off.

In Warner, Labuschagne and Smith we have 3 world class elite batters, not many test teams in history would have 2 blokes averaging 60 and one close to 50 in the side.

In Green we have a young batsmen showing lots of promise and potentially the next 5-10 year number 5/6. If we can find an opening batting partner for Warner (potentially that is Pucovski) and a number 5 we will have a very strong batting line up.

Our bowling is very strong, personally I think the time has come for Pattinson to replace Starc. The only small issue to arise in the next couple of years is replacing Lyon once he retires.

jackpot jim wrote:What is with the Australian top order batsmen when they're given out ? They just stand around thinking they've been hard done by all the time.

Labuschagne hovered and practiced the shot he got out too.

locky801 wrote:

Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Looks like most of the forecast rain tomorrow is going to pass by early morning, so hopefully we don't lose too much time, if any.

See a place about 30km away from the Gabba has had 174mm of rain in the last 3 hours, looks like theres heaps now heading towards brisbane itself, going to be a monster cleanup job one would think

35.4mm in Brisbane since yesterday afternoon. Assume something similar at the Gabba. Drainage is excellent, so that won't be an issue. Looks pretty clear at the moment, but I assume those storm cells may build this afternoon. Hopefully not.

RB wrote:

The Dark Knight wrote:

RB wrote:One of the reasons Brett Lee's career fizzled out when he was only about 30 (I know he'd had injuries) was that he bowled relentlessly short. You're just not going to take many wickets bowling like that to specialist batsmen. And he stopped being effective because you don't take many wickets bowling constantly at that length.

Lee turned 30 in November 2006 and played test cricket until December 2008 and I was of the view that Lee had his best years of test cricket once McGrath retired in January 2007 when he became the leader of the Australian bowling attack for a couple of years. Along with Gilchrist Lee is my favourite Australian cricketer so naturally I looked into this.
After he turned 30 Lee played 22 tests, took 99 wickets @29.47 at a SR of 54.8 and an Economy of 3.22.
Before 30 he played 54 tests, took 211 wickets @31.45 at a SR of 52.5 and an Economy of 3.58.
I also looked at his career summary break down of year by year/summer by summer. Taking the stats into account I don't think Lee's test career fizzled out as much as you might think but his last summer (when he was 32) where he averaged 47.80 and a SR of 84.1 maybe be the one you remember and the one you're referring too?

Screenshot_20210118-192634_Chrome.jpg

Yeah I suppose I was thinking of that summer. Although I do recall Lee (and the other pace bowlers) bowling way too short in the '05 Ashes.

His yorker was really effective as well in the early 2000s, but from memory he just didn't seem to bowl anything that wasn't short, or really vary his bowling much at all, late in his career, although it looks like maybe I'm only recalling his last season.

He was a dickhead, he could've got a lot more wickets instead of bowling bouncers at tail enders thinking he was a champ.

Watching him perform the chainsaw when he dismissed the number 10 to have the figures of 1/72 was very cringeworthy.