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Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:21 am
by Coach Bombay
A space to analyse review and critique our bowling performance and the way forward for next year

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:53 am
by catchisthecry
Putland and George worth persisting with. Mennie was OK.
Started the year opening the bowling with Christian - not a first class opening bowler.
Disappointed with Richardson/Haberfield, look to have proimse but don't take wickets.
Spinners... Lyon gone. Cullen Bailey, O'brien no good. Do we have another look at Dan Cullen?

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:18 am
by catchisthecry
Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 Ct St

GD Putland 5 7 156.0 39 417 19 6/72 8/112 21.94 2.67 49.2 2 0 1 0
CJ Sayers 2 4 79.0 22 211 9 5/57 7/104 23.44 2.67 52.6 1 0 0 0
JM Mennie 6 10 200.0 45 604 23 7/96 8/111 26.26 3.02 52.1 2 0 4 0
C Tietjens 2 4 38.2 8 157 5 2/26 4/84 31.40 4.09 46.0 0 0 1 0
PR George 10 16 324.1 62 1148 31 5/36 5/107 37.03 3.54 62.7 1 0 2 0
TP Kelly 1 2 30.3 5 132 3 2/65 3/132 44.00 4.32 61.0 0 0 0 0
DT Christian 5 9 176.5 46 497 10 3/67 4/121 49.70 2.81 106.1 0 0 4 0
JA Haberfield 3 5 95.0 18 364 7 3/117 5/174 52.00 3.83 81.4 0 0 0 0
NM Lyon 2 3 91.0 20 262 5 3/111 3/111 52.40 2.87 109.2 0 0 0 0
TLW Cooper 10 9 43.0 3 201 2 1/47 2/97 100.50 4.67 129.0 0 0 9 0
TP Doropoulos 2 2 23.0 2 109 1 1/87 1/87 109.00 4.73 138.0 0 0 0 0
CD Williams 1 2 19.4 0 130 1 1/92 1/130 130.00 6.61 118.0 0 0 0 0
CB Bailey 3 5 105.0 11 399 3 2/100 2/100 133.00 3.80 210.0 0 0 2 0
DJ Harris 6 7 21.0 6 53 0 - - - 2.52 - 0 0 4 0
KW Richardson 2 3 48.0 8 137 0 - - - 2.85 - 0 0 1 0
AW O'Brien 2 4 56.4 8 173 0 - - - 3.05 - 0 0 2

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:30 am
by Media Park
Joe Mennie was the startling stand out improver in South Australian cricket, from the start of the season being labelled (mainly by me) as an absolute pile of horse snot, 23 wickets at 26 is great.
Peter George started the season in fine wicket taking form, especially in first innings, but the lack of support, with Putland's injury, and before Mennie came of age, caused him to come to a screaming halt in later matches. Still our best full-time bowler. 31 wickets at 37, if he had full-time support, it would be good.
What can we say about Gary Putland? I know he makes Chuck Norris piss himself, but all jokes aside, after returning from injury, and before the injury, he was a threatening seam bowler, which we have been lacking. 19 wickets at 21 is great, just the five games though, if he gets himself on the park for a full season, I will be impressed.

Dan Christian is a more than useful fifth bowler, but not a strike bowler by any measure.

Only Sayers amongst the rest looked like he would be capable of Shield standard bowling, and he isn't quite there yet.

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:06 pm
by RustyCage
I'm not sure how much longer we need to realise T Kelly isn't up to it. Didnt take WA long to work it out!

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:50 pm
by overloaded
chuck has NFI

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:57 pm
by Grahaml
overloaded wrote:chuck has no players


Would be far more accurate. It's not his job to create talent or teach someone everything about the game. He's there to tweak already good games and help blokes adjust to first class level.

Bowling hasn't been bad I guess, but far from a venomous attack. Lyon, Putland and George makes a reasonable lineup. Christian needs to either improve his batting and become a genuine 6 (or 7 if we get a top 6 class keeper/batsman) or really improve his bowling. I like him as a 5th bowling option, but not just yet as a part of the main 4 prong attack.

Re: Redbacks sheild season critique - bowling

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:17 pm
by Bulls forever
Grahaml wrote:
overloaded wrote:chuck has no players


Would be far more accurate. It's not his job to create talent or teach someone everything about the game. He's there to tweak already good games and help blokes adjust to first class level.

Bowling hasn't been bad I guess, but far from a venomous attack. Lyon, Putland and George makes a reasonable lineup. Christian needs to either improve his batting and become a genuine 6 (or 7 if we get a top 6 class keeper/batsman) or really improve his bowling. I like him as a 5th bowling option, but not just yet as a part of the main 4 prong attack.


Whilst discussing the bowling, take the last Shield game in Brisbane. Qld had three bowlers who every time they bowled - the ball swung and moved sideways all the time. Not sure how much of the Qld batting you watched, but apart from Putland who swung the new ball appreciably, our bowlers were straight up and down. It is common knowledge that whatever level you play, if you swing the ball away from the bat, you will take wickets, we do not seem to be able to do that consistently. That is why I am not sure Mennie is the answer, he is a seamer and on Adelaide Road (oval) the ball does not seam. Would much prefer to go with a Sayers or a Tietjens who swing the ball away from the bat.