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Mitchell Johnson

Postby Booney » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:11 am

Will never play another Test match for Australia. I for one am disappointed, for him and for cricket. A hard hitting all-rounder who bowls 150+ excites us all, but with Siddle,Pattinson,Hilfenhaus,Harris,Cummins,Starc all ahead of him and with Johnson looking at 12 months out the game at 31 years of age, I don't think we will see him under a baggy green again.

Anyone think he is a chance?

*edit - throw Watson and Christian into the bowling mix
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby tigerpie » Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:27 am

Its certainly going to be tough for him, but i think he could as we dont have a good lefty going around at the moment. Starc isnt quite ready yet. I think Johnson would have to bowl really well when he comes back but he is definetly loved by the selectors. Well the old selection panel anyway?
At his best he could be a Botham like all-rounder, but finding his best will be down to how hungry he is to get back.
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby catchisthecry » Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:45 pm

I've just been watching some of last years Ashes on DVD and he just releases the pressure once an over with a wide half-tracker which Cook, Strauss, Trott etc - slap over point for a boundary, and then they usually got a half volley on leg stump to glance to the fine leg fence as well.
The new attack is able to build pressure, something Johnson can rarely do.
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby on the rails » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:52 pm

Was there the same discussion about a year ago re Bollinger and whether he would get back?

IMO Johnson is a goner - Domestic Cricket / Big Bash for him is about where he is at now.
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby FlyingHigh » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:02 pm

tigerpie wrote:Its certainly going to be tough for him, but i think he could as we dont have a good lefty going around at the moment. Starc isnt quite ready yet. I think Johnson would have to bowl really well when he comes back but he is definetly loved by the selectors. Well the old selection panel anyway?
At his best he could be a Botham like all-rounder, but finding his best will be down to how hungry he is to get back.


But in 12 months, with Starc a year more developed and Johnson a year older, you'd hope Starc would be a better alternative.
Off topic, but shows how ridiculous not having Shield games at the moment is, would have been ideal for Starc to go back and play a four dayer.
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby stan » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:05 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
tigerpie wrote:Its certainly going to be tough for him, but i think he could as we dont have a good lefty going around at the moment. Starc isnt quite ready yet. I think Johnson would have to bowl really well when he comes back but he is definetly loved by the selectors. Well the old selection panel anyway?
At his best he could be a Botham like all-rounder, but finding his best will be down to how hungry he is to get back.


But in 12 months, with Starc a year more developed and Johnson a year older, you'd hope Starc would be a better alternative.
Off topic, but shows how ridiculous not having Shield games at the moment is, would have been ideal for Starc to go back and play a four dayer.


Yep agree with you there about all points.

Starc would have benifited along from some 4 day cricket. Shit so would have Marsh and Harris!
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Mitchell Johnson

Postby the joker » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:27 pm

A fit Mitchell Johnson will walk back into all three Australian sides. Clarke loves him, the selectors love him and so does the new coach. Hasent been injury free for over a year. Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby locky801 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:01 pm

the joker wrote: Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson



Oh well we will never be a force again :roll:
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby whufc » Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:31 pm

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby mal » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:43 pm

Was a star bowler
Then became the stock bowler
Whilst some other bowlers got injured, he kept going
I think part of the demise was the workload, and burnout on mainly flat decks
Then he lost his confidence
Then his bowling went haywire

Went from superstar to superdud

I had thought he was the best left armer since Alan Davidson and Adelaide Hawk not so long ago
Not now
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby Grahaml » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:00 am

I think Johnson will be back and will be a better bowler. He has a chance to work on things because of need to get back in and time without having to perform week in week out. What he always had in his favour was even at his worst he could get a right hander to play defensively at wider balls. A chance to regain fitness, work on his action and I'm tipping in a couple of years we'll be talking about him as our main bowler again.
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby supersonicgun » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:05 am

locky801 wrote:
the joker wrote: Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson



Oh well we will never be a force again :roll:

We won't be a force without Johnson,geez joke u come out with some beauty's
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby helicopterking » Sat Dec 31, 2011 9:35 am

Cant see it happening. But you only need to play half a SS season to be considered. If he takes 20 wickets and pumps out a few tones then he will no doubt be given the nod in quick time!
If Harris is struggling to force his way back, then what chance does Mitch. Unless he gets an inswinger going, then Johnson will fall behind Starc from now on.
Australia at the moment are looking for consistancy, Mitch doesnt do that as a bowler, and defiently not with the bat. Plus Pattison is more then capable with the bat, along with Siddle improving, no need for his lower order batting!
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby NO-MERCY » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:29 am

The only thing i like about Mitchell Johnson is his missus!!! =p~ :-*
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby locky801 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:55 pm

At this stage there is actually no guarantee he will play cricket again in the 1st class arena
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:02 am

the joker wrote:A fit Mitchell Johnson will walk back into all three Australian sides. Clarke loves him, the selectors love him and so does the new coach. Hasent been injury free for over a year. Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson


For Australia to be a force again the side needs NO MITCHELL JOHNSON. You can't have a bowler come on and release the pressure nearly every time he bowls. At one stage in the republic he was shuffling in like a medium pacer. No rhythm at all. Hasn't been injury free for a year? Hasn't bowled well for many years. A ridculously overrated cricketer.

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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby Pottsy » Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:10 am

tigerpie wrote:Its certainly going to be tough for him, but i think he could as we dont have a good lefty going around at the moment.

I struggle to understand this mentality that the selectors seem to have. Why would you need a lefty? In a battle for the last spot, it should always be the best bowler getting the gig, not one with a certain angle of delivery. Thank christ they got rid of Starc before India. With his "short or full" mentality all the pressure being built by tight, fast effective right handed bowlers would have been lost.

England have the best attack in the world at the minute, and they consist of five or six right hand seamers that all read from the same page - keep the pressure on.

Damn it was nice seeing Oz do that in the first test v India, regardless of how the next result goes I'd love to see the same sort of endeavour. Throw Mitch Johnson into that mix and you get that pressure release valve for the batsmen again. I liked what Mitch gave to Oz cricket at times, but in the end hope he doesn't come back.
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Mitchell Johnson

Postby the joker » Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:27 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
the joker wrote:A fit Mitchell Johnson will walk back into all three Australian sides. Clarke loves him, the selectors love him and so does the new coach. Hasent been injury free for over a year. Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson


For Australia to be a force again the side needs NO MITCHELL JOHNSON. You can't have a bowler come on and release the pressure nearly every time he bowls. At one stage in the republic he was shuffling in like a medium pacer. No rhythm at all. Hasn't been injury free for a year? Hasn't bowled well for many years. A ridculously overrated cricketer.

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has not bowled well for several years? 12 months ago bowled one of the best spells seen in australia.
And his one day form before injury was exceptional. 39 wickets at 20 with only two bowlers in the world taking more.
People on here will look stupid when he leads the attack in the next ashes
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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:14 pm

the joker wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
the joker wrote:A fit Mitchell Johnson will walk back into all three Australian sides. Clarke loves him, the selectors love him and so does the new coach. Hasent been injury free for over a year. Australia to be a force again needs a firing Johnson


For Australia to be a force again the side needs NO MITCHELL JOHNSON. You can't have a bowler come on and release the pressure nearly every time he bowls. At one stage in the republic he was shuffling in like a medium pacer. No rhythm at all. Hasn't been injury free for a year? Hasn't bowled well for many years. A ridculously overrated cricketer.

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has not bowled well for several years? 12 months ago bowled one of the best spells seen in australia.
And his one day form before injury was exceptional. 39 wickets at 20 with only two bowlers in the world taking more.
People on here will look stupid when he leads the attack in the next ashes



One good test. Six shit ones. Bye bye. If he leads the attack in the next Ashes series the only people who are going to look stupid will be the selectors. The Poms would be delighted to see Johnson back in the team. He is absolute horse shit.

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Re: Mitchell Johnson

Postby GWW » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:23 pm

Let him play at the WACA in future years when fit because he's almost unplayable there, other than that doesn't deserve to be a regular in the Test side anymore.
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