SA Footy

This is how we've done on a series-by-series basis since Warne & McGrath's retirements in the 06/07 Ashes series.

With:

2006/07

-def England 5-0 at home

Since:

2007

-def Sri Lanka 2-0 at home

2007/08

-def India 2-1 (1 draw) at home

2008

-def West Indies 2-0 (1 draw) in West Indies
-lost to India 2-0 (2 draws) in India
-def New Zealand 2-0 at home

2008/09

-lost to South Africa 2-1 at home

2009

-def South Africa 2-1 in South Africa
-lost to England 2-1 (2 draws) in England
-def West Indies 2-0 (1 draw) at home

2009/10

-def Pakistan 3-0 at home

2010

-def New Zealand 2-0 in New Zealand
-Drew with Pakistan 1-1 in England
-lost to India 2-0 in India

2010/11

-lost to England 3-1 (1 draw) at home

2011

-def Sri Lanka 1-0 (2 draws) in Sri Lanka
-Drew with South Africa 1-1 in South Africa
-Drew with New Zealand 1-1 at home

2011/12

-def India 4-0 at home

2012

-def West Indies 2-0 (1 draw) in West Indies
-lost to South Africa 1-0 (2 draws) at home

2012/13

-def Sri Lanka 3-0 at home

2013

-lost to India 4-0 in India
-lost to England 3-0 (2 draws) in England

2013/14

-def England 5-0 at home

2014

-def South Africa 2-1 in South Africa
-lost to Pakistan 2-0 in UAE

2014/15

-def India 2-0 (2 draws) at home

2015

-def West Indies 2-0 in West Indies
-lost to England 3-2 in England
-def New Zealand 2-0 (1 draw) at home

2015/16

-def West Indies 2-0 (1 draw) at home

2016

-def New Zealand 2-0 in New Zealand
-lost to Sri Lanka 3-0 in Sri Lanka
-lost to South Africa 2-1 at home

2016/17

-def Pakistan 3-0 at home

2017

-lost to India 2-1 (1 draw) in India
-Drew with Bangladesh 1-1 in Bangladesh

2017/18

-def England 4-0 (1 draw) at home

2018

-lost to South Africa 3-1 in South Africa

Gozu, not trying to downplay your analysis, but I'm actually enjoying test cricket again.

For years there we bullied opposition sides just cos we were so good. Now we're not and in my eyes it's entertaining. Yep, the collapses aren't pretty to watch but at least the games can go either way.

Let's face it, during that period of time when McGrath and Warne were at their peak, we were spoilt. I think now the Australian public is seeing what it's like for a bully to get bullied back.

Back to your stats...

It's obvious our cricketing centre of excellence was not doing what it needed to do in the wake of the Mc-Warne era, that being to develop ready made test cricketers. As I've said to mates previously its easy to carry an ordinary bloke in an exceptional team.

I for one am happy that the rotation of teams at the top is occuring. I'll be happy for Australia (who I used to think was a petulant
brat) serve their time getting done by sides like NZ and hopefully its a wake up call to Cricket Australia that we're resting on our laurels.

The WI did it after their fast bowling stocks withered and look at them now. They'd hardly beat a decent shield side here.

Nah I agree to some extent I'd rather watch the cricket that has transpired since Warne/McGrath's retirements than before it was boring watching us destroy everyone for so long but I think in the last year or so we've really fallen away and some of the performances are just unacceptable (being flogged by a good but not outstanding England side at home, the 47 run debacle in South Africa and losing a Test to NZ at home for the first time in about 25 years especially given we should've won comfortably yesterday).

I agree Gozu, we have fallen away but I think it's got a bit to do with other forms of cricket and the overload the top players are playing. Too much cricket and meaningless stuff at that. The players should be ramping up for test cricket, not other forms. Test should be the pinnacle and players should be rested accordingly for that type of cricket.

gadj1976 wrote:I agree Gozu, we have fallen away but I think it's got a bit to do with other forms of cricket and the overload the top players are playing. Too much cricket and meaningless stuff at that. The players should be ramping up for test cricket, not other forms. Test should be the pinnacle and players should be rested accordingly for that type of cricket.

Cant agree with that post, are we the only country that have players that play T20, IPL, big bash etc etc.

I enjoyed the last test, even though Australia lost. Love them green tops.

gadj1976 wrote:Gozu, not trying to downplay your analysis, but I'm actually enjoying test cricket again.

For years there we bullied opposition sides just cos we were so good. Now we're not and in my eyes it's entertaining. Yep, the collapses aren't pretty to watch but at least the games can go either way.
Let's face it, during that period of time when McGrath and Warne were at their peak, we were spoilt. I think now the Australian public is seeing what it's like for a bully to get bullied back.

Back to your stats...

It's obvious our cricketing centre of excellence was not doing what it needed to do in the wake of the Mc-Warne era, that being to develop ready made test cricketers. As I've said to mates previously its easy to carry an ordinary bloke in an exceptional team.

I for one am happy that the rotation of teams at the top is occuring. I'll be happy for Australia (who I used to think was a petulant
brat) serve their time getting done by sides like NZ and hopefully its a wake up call to Cricket Australia that we're resting on our laurels.

The WI did it after their fast bowling stocks withered and look at them now. They'd hardly beat a decent shield side here.

Falling like the Windies is the one thing I'm afraid of, although they do have several issues we don't ($$'s, US basketball, internal politics). However they didn't fall straight away, were still very competitive in 96/97 in Australia, so right now I think we aren't far off even in our declines.

Under Ponting and Waugh we very much bullied other teams, and then Ponting was somehwat exposed as when the big names retired. If you look at the series, the only one we were completely outplayed was the Ashes last year, which suggests we still had plenty of good players and opportunties to win with the right tactical nous.
At the moment, I think Clarke is doing a pretty good job and has bought a certain freshness to the role, much like Taylor did (not as good a captain just yet, perhaps never will be), but the side is no way near as strong as Ponting's last couple of years.

and FWIW, time to piss off the two test seris. The last four tests have been great entertainment, and have people hanging out for a decider. The Kiwis defiintely deserve three tests against us, they more often that not take it right up to us.

It's still a pretty good winning percentage....

I for one don't enjoy these close losing games. I loved belting everyone, and warned those that were bored that it wouldn't last forever and we would eventually decline, enjoy it while it lasts!
But I can't stand losing, we're all different.

I think we have a little way to drop yet before we bounce back, it's time to lose our experience, punter, hussey, haddin, but having a side mostly youth leads to inconsistency, and having faith in guys hoping they will come good, if it works great we're back to number one, if we put faith in the wrong kids with no experience to prop them up, back to the drawing board...... And more pain.

gadj1976 wrote:Gozu, not trying to downplay your analysis, but I'm actually enjoying test cricket again.

For years there we bullied opposition sides just cos we were so good. Now we're not and in my eyes it's entertaining. Yep, the collapses aren't pretty to watch but at least the games can go either way.

Let's face it, during that period of time when McGrath and Warne were at their peak, we were spoilt. I think now the Australian public is seeing what it's like for a bully to get bullied back.

Back to your stats...

It's obvious our cricketing centre of excellence was not doing what it needed to do in the wake of the Mc-Warne era, that being to develop ready made test cricketers. As I've said to mates previously its easy to carry an ordinary bloke in an exceptional team.

I for one am happy that the rotation of teams at the top is occuring. I'll be happy for Australia (who I used to think was a petulant
brat) serve their time getting done by sides like NZ and hopefully its a wake up call to Cricket Australia that we're resting on our laurels.

The WI did it after their fast bowling stocks withered and look at them now. They'd hardly beat a decent shield side here.

I don't need the Aussies to play like a lot of old plonkers to enjoy test cricket. You weren't entertained by the dominance of Hayden, the unparalleled skill of Warne, the immovable determination of Steve Waugh or the sheer audacity of Gilchrist? Cripes mate what game were you watching?

regards,

REB

FlyingHigh wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:Gozu, not trying to downplay your analysis, but I'm actually enjoying test cricket again.

For years there we bullied opposition sides just cos we were so good. Now we're not and in my eyes it's entertaining. Yep, the collapses aren't pretty to watch but at least the games can go either way.
Let's face it, during that period of time when McGrath and Warne were at their peak, we were spoilt. I think now the Australian public is seeing what it's like for a bully to get bullied back.

Back to your stats...

It's obvious our cricketing centre of excellence was not doing what it needed to do in the wake of the Mc-Warne era, that being to develop ready made test cricketers. As I've said to mates previously its easy to carry an ordinary bloke in an exceptional team.

I for one am happy that the rotation of teams at the top is occuring. I'll be happy for Australia (who I used to think was a petulant
brat) serve their time getting done by sides like NZ and hopefully its a wake up call to Cricket Australia that we're resting on our laurels.

The WI did it after their fast bowling stocks withered and look at them now. They'd hardly beat a decent shield side here.

Falling like the Windies is the one thing I'm afraid of, although they do have several issues we don't ($$'s, US basketball, internal politics). However they didn't fall straight away, were still very competitive in 96/97 in Australia, so right now I think we aren't far off even in our declines.

Under Ponting and Waugh we very much bullied other teams, and then Ponting was somehwat exposed as when the big names retired. If you look at the series, the only one we were completely outplayed was the Ashes last year, which suggests we still had plenty of good players and opportunties to win with the right tactical nous.
At the moment, I think Clarke is doing a pretty good job and has bought a certain freshness to the role, much like Taylor did (not as good a captain just yet, perhaps never will be), but the side is no way near as strong as Ponting's last couple of years.

and FWIW, time to piss off the two test seris. The last four tests have been great entertainment, and have people hanging out for a decider. The Kiwis defiintely deserve three tests against us, they more often that not take it right up to us.

teeball = two test 'series'. It is written.

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:Gozu, not trying to downplay your analysis, but I'm actually enjoying test cricket again.

For years there we bullied opposition sides just cos we were so good. Now we're not and in my eyes it's entertaining. Yep, the collapses aren't pretty to watch but at least the games can go either way.

Let's face it, during that period of time when McGrath and Warne were at their peak, we were spoilt. I think now the Australian public is seeing what it's like for a bully to get bullied back.

Back to your stats...

It's obvious our cricketing centre of excellence was not doing what it needed to do in the wake of the Mc-Warne era, that being to develop ready made test cricketers. As I've said to mates previously its easy to carry an ordinary bloke in an exceptional team.

I for one am happy that the rotation of teams at the top is occuring. I'll be happy for Australia (who I used to think was a petulant
brat) serve their time getting done by sides like NZ and hopefully its a wake up call to Cricket Australia that we're resting on our laurels.

The WI did it after their fast bowling stocks withered and look at them now. They'd hardly beat a decent shield side here.

I don't need the Aussies to play like a lot of old plonkers to enjoy test cricket. You weren't entertained by the dominance of Hayden, the unparalleled skill of Warne, the immovable determination of Steve Waugh or the sheer audacity of Gilchrist? Cripes mate what game were you watching?

regards,

REB

I didn't say that REB. I did enjoy seeing the Aussies play well but it became boring. Often one sided results with often one sided umpiring.

Well you did say that because you said it was boring. If you enjoy being bored you must be a Soccer fan as well.

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:Well you did say that because you said it was boring. If you enjoy being bored you must be a Soccer fan as well.

regards,

REB

I got bored with test cricket because I was tired of knowing what the end result would be. The skills were good but whitewashing hopeless sides on home soil was boring to watch.

Watching a team at the top of its game. Yup. Boring

Dogwatcher wrote:Watching a team at the top of its game. Yup. Boring

As REB said it's not as though we were winning due to poor opposition, we were dominating because we hardly had a weak spot. For the rest of our lives we may never witness such a dominate era from our Cricket side, full of stars. I'm glad I got to see it

Dogwatcher wrote:Watching a team at the top of its game. Yup. Boring

Glad we agree.

I did actually say in my original post "like the SANFL has become".

Don't agree at all.
Loved watching our boys at the peak of their game.
Loved seeing them strut around like the West Indians did when they were at the peak of their game.
I don't love seeing them coontinue to strut around like they're at the top of their game when they're clearly not.
Hate seeing the Poms or Indians strutting. Because it shoul be us doing that - let's hope we are again soon.

Why is it that someone like Viv Richards is revered for his arrogance and win at all costs attitude, while our Aussie blokes are derided?

Dogwatcher wrote:Don't agree at all.
Loved watching our boys at the peak of their game.
Loved seeing them strut around like the West Indians did when they were at the peak of their game.
I don't love seeing them coontinue to strut around like they're at the top of their game when they're clearly not.Hate seeing the Poms or Indians strutting. Because it shoul be us doing that - let's hope we are again soon.

Why is it that someone like Viv Richards is revered for his arrogance and win at all costs attitude, while our Aussie blokes are derided?

hehehe, i was taking the pi$$ Dogger....

I do agree with the comment bolded though!

I only derided the Aussies when they whinged and complained and carried on like spoilt brats. You can win, but win graciously.

gadj1976 wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Don't agree at all.
Loved watching our boys at the peak of their game.
Loved seeing them strut around like the West Indians did when they were at the peak of their game.
I don't love seeing them coontinue to strut around like they're at the top of their game when they're clearly not.Hate seeing the Poms or Indians strutting. Because it shoul be us doing that - let's hope we are again soon.

Why is it that someone like Viv Richards is revered for his arrogance and win at all costs attitude, while our Aussie blokes are derided?

hehehe, i was taking the pi$$ Dogger....

I do agree with the comment bolded though!

I only derided the Aussies when they whinged and complained and carried on like spoilt brats. You can win, but win graciously.

Yeah there was no need for that aspect of their play. As for Viv, if he played now he wouldn't be as revered IMO because there are more press outlets looking for a different 'angle' and there would be a Viv 'controversy' nearly every match. Back then he was the brash young star who faced up to Lillee and Thomson and Lever and Willis. He learnt a lot in those early years from Australia and England and turned it back on us when his boys were top of the tree. Have you read 'Hitting accross the line'? There's a whole chapter on the Australian tour of 1975/76 and it seemed to me the whole Viv personna was refined as a result of that tough tour. And boy didn't the Poms pay for it in 1976??

regards,

REB

Rik E Boy wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:

Dogwatcher wrote:Don't agree at all.
Loved watching our boys at the peak of their game.
Loved seeing them strut around like the West Indians did when they were at the peak of their game.
I don't love seeing them coontinue to strut around like they're at the top of their game when they're clearly not.Hate seeing the Poms or Indians strutting. Because it shoul be us doing that - let's hope we are again soon.

Why is it that someone like Viv Richards is revered for his arrogance and win at all costs attitude, while our Aussie blokes are derided?

hehehe, i was taking the pi$$ Dogger....

I do agree with the comment bolded though!

I only derided the Aussies when they whinged and complained and carried on like spoilt brats. You can win, but win graciously.

Yeah there was no need for that aspect of their play. As for Viv, if he played now he wouldn't be as revered IMO because there are more press outlets looking for a different 'angle' and there would be a Viv 'controversy' nearly every match. Back then he was the brash young star who faced up to Lillee and Thomson and Lever and Willis. He learnt a lot in those early years from Australia and England and turned it back on us when his boys were top of the tree. Have you read 'Hitting accross the line'? There's a whole chapter on the Australian tour of 1975/76 and it seemed to me the whole Viv personna was refined as a result of that tough tour. And boy didn't the Poms pay for it in 1976??

regards,

REB

I haven't read that REB, no. But I'll chase that up, thanks for pointing that out.