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Darren Berry

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:00 pm
by OnSong
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/domestic-cricket/south-australia-coach-darren-berry-promises-revamp-of-culture-that-has-stuffed-up-australian-cricket/story-e6frf3kl-1226056543019

Some scathing comments from Berry and presented some interesting proposed changes, particularly SACA players training with their grade clubs.
Seems to demand change, which could only be a good thing going on recent shield results.
Thoughts?

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:05 pm
by McGovern
A positive step for cricket in the state.

I come from the Hills (Torrens Valley Cricket Association) where cricket at A grade level is on its knees. The game has gone a bit stale with little innovation at the local level in the past 20 years. They say if you're not moving forwards you're moving backwards.

Also state cricket must return to free-to-air TV to generate interest.

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 5:38 pm
by stampy
i liked what i read this morning, we have been a basket case for way too long, 1 shield in 30 years is a disgrace, i just hope chuck has more luck that bacchus had, dunno what went wrong when irongloves was here but it wasnt pretty. as for domestic cricket returning to free to air, we can only wish

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:45 pm
by bulldogproud2
A great idea by Darren. Hoping it comes to fruition and stays a permanent fixture. Grade cricketers, particularly younger ones, will gain from seeing State players around.
Cheers

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:20 am
by Footy Smart
That is why we should have employed someone from outside of SA years ago, especially instead or that chump Sorrell. Chuck see's the deficiencies and the gab between Grade Clubs/SACA. A person who has been through the ranks wouldn’t see that as they become immune to it.

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:03 pm
by Bulls forever
Footy Smart wrote:That is why we should have employed someone from outside of SA years ago, especially instead or that chump Sorrell. Chuck see's the deficiencies and the gab between Grade Clubs/SACA. A person who has been through the ranks wouldn’t see that as they become immune to it.


FS, I think you need to understand that for years SACA have been employing yes men to work to their tune. Marsh was too radical and only answered to big bad Ian - was never going to work, plus had no hands on with cricket, just looked at vision. Chuck is his own person, although obviously a mate of Cox and would have only taken the job on his terms. He is addressing at a level that none of them have before, but the current music is to everyones liking, yes recruit, but only top end, proven shield cricketers, no one will care if they don't play grade cricket, as long as they perform at shield level and integrate with the locals. That was the recipe for success when we had it, ie Siddons, McIntyre, etc. etc

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 8:20 pm
by hottie
I really enjoyed his story and lets hope at long last we can be competitive especially in shield cricket.For so many years we struggle to have test players,so i would think basically having a full list the results would be in redbacks favour.Honestly i would like to start from scratch and sacrifice a couple of years,start by giving a group of young players the chance and hopefully after gaining experience,redbacks can become a team that can dominate for years.

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 10:47 pm
by bayman
hottie wrote:I really enjoyed his story and lets hope at long last we can be competitive especially in shield cricket.For so many years we struggle to have test players,so i would think basically having a full list the results would be in redbacks favour.Honestly i would like to start from scratch and sacrifice a couple of years,start by giving a group of young players the chance and hopefully after gaining experience,redbacks can become a team that can dominate for years.



isn't that what paul nobes did or was going to do ?

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:47 am
by mal
Basically Darren Berry is re-iterating the thoughts of several SAFOOTY posters over the last few years

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:08 pm
by Lightning McQueen
mal wrote:Basically Darren Berry is re-iterating the thoughts of several SAFOOTY posters over the last few years


Are you Chuck?? ;)

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:37 pm
by catchisthecry
Impressed with what i read.
If warney rates him enough to make him assistant at Rajasthan (when the won the first IPL) he's good enough for me!
C'mon Redbacks!!!

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:16 pm
by gadj1976
Finally, someone thinking outside the square (so to speak). We may as well give it a go, nothing else mainstream has worked for us in the past.

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:41 pm
by Media Park
Only problem with not recruiting what he called "fringe players" is that Klinger was fringe at Vic, and now is our best performer with the bat.

Blizzard couldn't make the Vic SS side, and he was our leading run scorer.

My love child O'Brien was only a fringe player, but produced several handy performances for SA in the season just gone...

Will O'Brien type players get lost in the attempted resurgence, for a nineteen year old who does nothing for two years?

Re: Darren Berry

PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:46 pm
by heater31
Media Park wrote:Only problem with not recruiting what he called "fringe players" is that Klinger was fringe at Vic, and now is our best performer with the bat.

Blizzard couldn't make the Vic SS side, and he was our leading run scorer.

My love child O'Brien was only a fringe player, but produced several handy performances for SA in the season just gone...

Will O'Brien type players get lost in the attempted resurgence, for a nineteen year old who does nothing for two years?



nope I would suggest Chuck would say you are welcome to move to Adelaide and play Grade cricket and we will select you if performances warrant it.

Nathan Hauritz springs to mind when he moved to NSW. He refused a contract from Qld, packed up and moved to Sydney without a deal. Played a bit of Sydney Grade and went from there.


If this was the case it will only improve the Grade Standard and force a more professional approach to recruiting with employment/other benefits attached.