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Well the business end of the World Cup is upon us and the top four teams from each group are still in it.

Wednesday: 1st Quarter Final - Pakistan v West Indies
Thursday: 2nd Quarter Final - India v Australia
Friday: 3rd Quarter Final - New Zealand v South Africa
Saturday: 4th Quarter Final - Sri Lanka v England

The weather may have some influence on the third and fourth game, with thunderstorms currently forecast for Friday and Saturday.

This is why the current format is so ridiculous.
Strong teams play meaningless games against weak opposition, then suddenly the quarter finals are single knock-out games where a small amount of luck or weather can influence the result.

My format would be:
Ten teams in 2 Groups, play each other in a Round-Robin.
Top four teams are automatically through, ranked as per there results, run rates etc.
Fifth team through is the best performing 3rd ranked team.
Play a final five like the footy. This means the lower 2nd ranked team straight away faces a knock-out against the better perfornming third ranked team.
The two Grand Finalists play a best-of three.
Most amount of games a team can play is 12, if they come from the "Elimination" and play the GF goes to best of three.

Bottom two or three teams have to play the top two or three teams from the Associates World Cup in a round-robin, for the right to play in the next World Cup

FlyingHigh wrote:This is why the current format is so ridiculous.
Strong teams play meaningless games against weak opposition, then suddenly the quarter finals are single knock-out games where a small amount of luck or weather can influence the result.

My format would be:
Ten teams in 2 Groups, play each other in a Round-Robin.
Top four teams are automatically through, ranked as per there results, run rates etc.
Fifth team through is the best performing 3rd ranked team.
Play a final five like the footy. This means the lower 2nd ranked team straight away faces a knock-out against the better perfornming third ranked team.
The two Grand Finalists play a best-of three.
Most amount of games a team can play is 12, if they come from the "Elimination" and play the GF goes to best of three.

Bottom two or three teams have to play the top two or three teams from the Associates World Cup in a round-robin, for the right to play in the next World Cup

FH, they just got rid of the Super 6 this world cup. This was supposed to speed things up.

gadj1976 wrote:

FlyingHigh wrote:This is why the current format is so ridiculous.
Strong teams play meaningless games against weak opposition, then suddenly the quarter finals are single knock-out games where a small amount of luck or weather can influence the result.

My format would be:
Ten teams in 2 Groups, play each other in a Round-Robin.
Top four teams are automatically through, ranked as per there results, run rates etc.
Fifth team through is the best performing 3rd ranked team.
Play a final five like the footy. This means the lower 2nd ranked team straight away faces a knock-out against the better perfornming third ranked team.
The two Grand Finalists play a best-of three.
Most amount of games a team can play is 12, if they come from the "Elimination" and play the GF goes to best of three.

Bottom two or three teams have to play the top two or three teams from the Associates World Cup in a round-robin, for the right to play in the next World Cup

FH, they just got rid of the Super 6 this world cup. This was supposed to speed things up.

But as we know, it has not. I like Flying Highs version, but I can never see a best of three final happening.

I thought of just having a round robin with all ten teams, then play the final five series. I throughly dislike the knockout finals, because the best ranked teams can have a bad day come finals time and are gone without another chance. It doesn't give the best opportunity for the best teams to meet in the final.

Don't think we can get over India, guys?

Your thoughts...?

I think we CAN, it just isn't likely...

I do not think we can win setting a target.

We MUST bowl first... And Tait and Lee need to wreck them...

spell_check wrote:

gadj1976 wrote:

FlyingHigh wrote:This is why the current format is so ridiculous.
Strong teams play meaningless games against weak opposition, then suddenly the quarter finals are single knock-out games where a small amount of luck or weather can influence the result.

My format would be:
Ten teams in 2 Groups, play each other in a Round-Robin.
Top four teams are automatically through, ranked as per there results, run rates etc.
Fifth team through is the best performing 3rd ranked team.
Play a final five like the footy. This means the lower 2nd ranked team straight away faces a knock-out against the better perfornming third ranked team.
The two Grand Finalists play a best-of three.
Most amount of games a team can play is 12, if they come from the "Elimination" and play the GF goes to best of three.

Bottom two or three teams have to play the top two or three teams from the Associates World Cup in a round-robin, for the right to play in the next World Cup

FH, they just got rid of the Super 6 this world cup. This was supposed to speed things up.

But as we know, it has not. I like Flying Highs version, but I can never see a best of three final happening.

I thought of just having a round robin with all ten teams, then play the final five series. I throughly dislike the knockout finals, because the best ranked teams can have a bad day come finals time and are gone without another chance. It doesn't give the best opportunity for the best teams to meet in the final.

I know it was meant to speed things up gadj, but they could also have sped things up by not having Australia have a full week or more between most of its games.

The current set-up and the 10-round-robin series both take 44-45 qualifying games by my calculations. With the round-robin of 5 in a pool, it only takes 20 games, so a few more games could be played can be spent on the business end.
Agree Spelly, the final is unlikely to be the best of three because they want to make it a big television event, but I reckon the tournament deserves it

Media Park wrote:I think we CAN, it just isn't likely...

I do not think we can win setting a target.

We MUST bowl first... And Tait and Lee need to wreck them...

Agree MP, comfortable underdogs. I can see us setting a reasonable target of about 250-270, but it won't be enough unless the bowlers do something special early in their innings.

Here are the bookies prices for the four games:

PAKISTAN $1.53
WEST INDIES $2.55

INDIA $1.70
AUSTRALIA $2.18

NEW ZEALAND $3.20
SOUTH AFRICA $1.36

SRI LANKA $1.50
ENGLAND $2.65

FlyingHigh wrote:
I know it was meant to speed things up gadj, but they could also have sped things up by not having Australia have a full week or more between most of its games.

The current set-up and the 10-round-robin series both take 44-45 qualifying games by my calculations. With the round-robin of 5 in a pool, it only takes 20 games, so a few more games could be played can be spent on the business end.
Agree Spelly, the final is unlikely to be the best of three because they want to make it a big television event, but I reckon the tournament deserves it

I don't really care how long it takes, it's once every 4 years so IMO they need to give everyone equal opportunity to perform at the optimum level for a period of time to determine who is the best ODI team in the world.
I'd prefer to see everyone play each other once and then the top 4 play off or something similar like they did in the 91/92 WC. Every team is bound to have at least one bad day and it shouldn't be so detrimental to their finals hopes, maybe cut it back to 8 and let them have a round robin, as much as I like to see the minnows given an opportunity, none of them are going to ever win it. They can play in the minnow cup at the same time, imagine any of them facing Tait, Lee or Johnson on the WACA, the only reason thay are competitive is because of the tracks they are playing on.

West Indies are resonable value with both Gayle and Roach back in the team for tonights game.

Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the saffers. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

sounds like the kiwis are going to beat themselves

Jim05 wrote:Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the kiwis. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

Eh?

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:sounds like the kiwis are going to beat themselves

Wouldn't be the first time

Jim05 wrote:Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the kiwis. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

Depends on if any Pakistani players are looking at retiring after this WC.

windies to win easily and make semis as i predicted prior to the wc starting.

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the kiwis. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

Depends on if any Pakistani players are looking at retiring after this WC.

Akmal to drop Gayle first or second ball!

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the kiwis. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

Eh?

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Jim05 wrote:

Lightning McQueen wrote:

Jim05 wrote:Reckon the pakis will slaughter the Windies.
Call me insane but ive slapped $200 on our sheep shagging friends to beat the kiwis. Vettori is back and its that time of the comp where the saffers start to choke. Can see a massive train wreck heading the saffers way

Eh?

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