Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

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Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:13 pm

Maybe selectors are reading these posts.
I suggested during the sydney test that haddin was a good batsmen but glovework is average. I said i would like to see haddin play as a specialist batsmen and allow paine to come in as i see him as a future skipper.
A few days later haddin is dumped from t20 squad and paine made vc. I now see that he is being mentioned as the heir apparent to ponting.
Would love to see him skipper, id still play haddin ahead of smith as a batsman though.
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:37 pm

Jim05 wrote:Maybe selectors are reading these posts.
I suggested during the sydney test that haddin was a good batsmen but glovework is average. I said i would like to see haddin play as a specialist batsmen and allow paine to come in as i see him as a future skipper.
A few days later haddin is dumped from t20 squad and paine made vc. I now see that he is being mentioned as the heir apparent to ponting.
Would love to see him skipper, id still play haddin ahead of smith as a batsman though.


You want a guy that has played 4 tests to captain the nation?
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Rik E Boy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:43 pm

Clearly the Kat is our next skipper.

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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:45 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Jim05 wrote:Maybe selectors are reading these posts.
I suggested during the sydney test that haddin was a good batsmen but glovework is average. I said i would like to see haddin play as a specialist batsmen and allow paine to come in as i see him as a future skipper.
A few days later haddin is dumped from t20 squad and paine made vc. I now see that he is being mentioned as the heir apparent to ponting.
Would love to see him skipper, id still play haddin ahead of smith as a batsman though.


You want a guy that has played 4 tests to captain the nation?

Not yet. But i think they will let ponting finish this year. That will give him another 8 or 9 tests.
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby CoverKing » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:53 pm

We need to take a risk or two. Remember Smith being named captain to replace Pollock ahead of Kallis and Boucher after just 8-9 tests and at 22 years of age. Look where they are now and IMO that has alot to do with his captaincy.

Not a bad move, but making Haddin a scapegoat is not the right one IMO. He was one of a couple that held his own and had a decent summer. Ponting, Clarke, Johnson, Hilfenhaus, and spinners should be looked at before Haddin IMO. First to go should be Hilditch though
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby bayman » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:59 pm

CoverKing wrote: First to go should be Hilditch though



not according to andrew & what he said in the press conference the other day :roll: :roll: ..........................i've never heard a sacked football coach come out & say what he said, then again he hasn't been sacked yet
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:10 pm

CoverKing wrote:We need to take a risk or two. Remember Smith being named captain to replace Pollock ahead of Kallis and Boucher after just 8-9 tests and at 22 years of age. Look where they are now and IMO that has alot to do with his captaincy.

Not a bad move, but making Haddin a scapegoat is not the right one IMO. He was one of a couple that held his own and had a decent summer. Ponting, Clarke, Johnson, Hilfenhaus, and spinners should be looked at before Haddin IMO. First to go should be Hilditch though

I wouldnt make haddin scapegoat. I think he has the technique and ability to be a stand alone batsmen. He can bat at 6 or 7. Far superior batsman to smith
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby CoverKing » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:12 pm

bayman wrote:
CoverKing wrote: First to go should be Hilditch though



not according to andrew & what he said in the press conference the other day :roll: :roll: ..........................i've never heard a sacked football coach come out & say what he said, then again he hasn't been sacked yet


"I think the selectors have done a very good job this year"
:lol: :oops:
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:18 pm

CoverKing wrote:
bayman wrote:
CoverKing wrote: First to go should be Hilditch though



not according to andrew & what he said in the press conference the other day :roll: :roll: ..........................i've never heard a sacked football coach come out & say what he said, then again he hasn't been sacked yet


"I think the selectors have done a very good job this year"
:lol: :oops:

Are you a selector or on ca payroll :D
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby mal » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:09 pm

Captain , that makes me laugh
Tim will have have 2 more important issues to deal with within the next 2 years
1 Haddin loses form
2 Wade does not improve

Good keeper /batsman is what he is
Captains of cricket teams have to be the best or near best player in the team
Tim cant even make the team YET
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Jim05 » Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:27 pm

mal wrote:Captain , that makes me laugh
Tim will have have 2 more important issues to deal with within the next 2 years
1 Haddin loses form
2 Wade does not improve

Good keeper /batsman is what he is
Captains of cricket teams have to be the best or near best player in the team
Tim cant even make the team YET

True but very good batsmen and the best gloveman in australia
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby BestHumanEver » Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:59 pm

I think Steve Waugh nominated him as the next long term Australian captain
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby drifter » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:50 pm

What would be wrong as Cameron White as a test captain batting at 6 for Smith. He offers the leadership in the interim, can bowl a little bit of spin like Smith. My top 7 would be

1. Hussey( started as one, and it worked for langer, Boon and Katich !) - Good way to finish off his career
2. Maddinson
3. Watson ( Similar role to Kaliis)
4. Ponting
5. Clarke
6. White ( Captain)
7. Haddin- Paine can wait a couple of years I think
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby GWW » Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:52 pm

If Watson is to move in the order, i'd prefer to see him move to 4 or 5.
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:04 pm

Has there ever been a Captain of Australia that hasnt been Captain of their state side?
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby drifter » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:04 pm

sorry, I would have Khawaja as opener instead of Maddinson ( 12th man)
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby GWW » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:14 pm

Dutchy wrote:Has there ever been a Captain of Australia that hasnt been Captain of their state side?


I think Gilchrist filled in as captain for a couple of test didn't he. I don't think he was captain of WA at the time?
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby Dutchy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:21 pm

Possibly but as a permanent captain I think it highlights we are hoping he is the answer, not letting him work into the role naturally by firstly earning the right to play test cricket for the country regularly and then seeing if he has the respect and leadership to take over the captaincy
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby GWW » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:25 pm

Yeah. I just think anointing someone like Paine, just shows how little options we have at the moment. Probably gets back to poor planning by the selectors and the fact that they put all their eggs in the one basket for the one plan they did have (Clarke).
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Re: Tim Paine Next Australian Captain?

Postby smithy » Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:27 pm

mal wrote:Captain , that makes me laugh
Tim will have have 2 more important issues to deal with within the next 2 years
1 Haddin loses form
2 Wade does not improve

Good keeper /batsman is what he is
Captains of cricket teams have to be the best or near best player in the team
Tim cant even make the team YET

Hallelujah brother.
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