3rd Ashes Test - WACA

[smithy]

Here is an article to kick off talk for the 3rd test.

NEW South Wales fast bowler Mark Cameron is the fresh face in contention for the third Ashes Test starting in Perth next Thursday.
The 29-year-old right-armer has supporters among a group of former players who were asked yesterday to select a team for the do-or-die Test.

Ian Healy and Simon O'Donnell nominated Cameron for inclusion on a Perth track expected to be fast and bouncy, returning to its character of the 1980s and 1990s.

But Healy warned against panic and said left-arm spinner Xavier Doherty should be retained despite taking only three wickets in his first two Tests.

"My first couple of Tests weren't very good and nor were Shane Warne's," Healy said.

"To drop Doherty would smack of impatience and ridicule his selection in the first place. England panicked for 17 years before they started getting their selection right.

"As far as our pacemen go, I wouldn't choose Mitchell Johnson again until he's gone back to domestic ranks and got some confidence.

"Doug Bollinger plays only if he's a lot fitter than we saw in Adelaide and Mark Cameron is a big, strong bloke who impresses me. I'm also worried that Ryan Harris might have a niggle."

Former leg-spinner Stuart MacGill said Mike Hussey and Michael Clarke should swap batting positions. He also recommended recalling paceman Brett Lee from the wilderness and giving Nathan Hauritz another chance as the first-choice tweaker.

"If they told Brett Lee they wanted him to play, he would play," MacGill said.

Former batsman Greg Blewett said he wouldn't be upset if the selectors went with Cameron and he hoped they pick four quicks for the WACA Ground, plus Shane Watson and Steve Smith.

"In reality, Smith probably isn't ready but, being a leggie, he might just snaffle you a couple of wickets," he said.

"We have to take wickets and I think Smith is a better option than Xavier Doherty. The other player they may look at is Jason Krejza. He is the most attacking spinner in the country."

Former all-rounder Simon O'Donnell said the Australian selectors must make a statement, such as stating Steve Smith and Phillip Hughes are going to be part of the Test side for some years.

"Far from the doom and gloom which is hanging over Australian cricket, I believe our future is bright, particularly in the fast bowling ranks," O'Donnell said.

"The problem is injury has hit Josh Hazlewood, James Pattinson and Mitchell Stark, but all three of those boys will play Test cricket for Australia.

"Right now we don't have a leader of our attack. Mitchell Johnson should be that person and if he comes back he must demand the new ball. It's laughable that he has often bowled as a first change."

Greg Matthews said Hussey should go, despite his strong start to the summer.

"Mike Hussey got more chances than most. Sure, he has made runs now, but Usman Khawaja should have been picked ahead of him for the first Test," he said.

"And Ben Hilfenhaus has played 15 Tests but never looked liked taking a five-for."

[smithy]

Those who don't skip through my tripe would know I'm a big wrap for Cameron.
I hope he plays.
He is a strike bowler with a very good record.
He turns 30 in January I think so won't be around forever, but could fill a void.
I think it's obvious comments from former players that their isn't doom and gloom in aussie cricket, it's just that the talented youngsters aren't being picked.
Hilditch has to go IMO.

And for all the NSW favouritism over the years, I reckon they'll have 2/3rds of future test teams.
Hazelwood and Starc are out with injury, yet Copeland is doing well.
Khawaja, Smith, O'Keefe have been mentioned.
Maddinson is the BIG smoky as far as I'm concerned.
Kid is a gun and will play test cricket, but Australia is always reluctant to send them in early.

[Gozu]

Yeah I'm fine with that give Cameron a run. He couldn't do any harm.

Nice to see MacGill joining Warne, Murali & Vettori in the Hauritz fan club.

[CoverKing]

Nice too see a lot of people getting back on my Hauritz bandwagon! Should never have been dropped.

[Jim05]

Nice too see a lot of people getting back on my Hauritz bandwagon! Should never have been dropped.

Should never have been picked in the first place.

[Adelaide Hawk]

But Healy warned against panic and said left-arm spinner Xavier Doherty should be retained despite taking only three wickets in his first two Tests.

"My first couple of Tests weren't very good and nor were Shane Warne's," Healy said.
"If they told Brett Lee they wanted him to play, he would play," MacGill said.

The difference being that Healy and Wanrie were young talents on the way up. Doherty has been in the system for years and never been much good. His potential or improvement is nowhere near that of Healy and Warne. I we want to play that line, then Smith should be in the team, not a hack like Doherty.

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Fox Sports 3’s Inside Cricket last night, transcript:
Brendan Julian “So where do we go from here boys, Junior what do you reckon?”
Mark Waugh “Mate if I was a selector there are at least five, maybe six, of those blokes who’d be looking for something to do next week, because they wouldn’t be playing cricket in Perth.”
Damien Fleming “Such as?”
Waugh “Mate, Doherty for a start. I mean jeez, we’ve picked a bloke because we don’t know who our spinner should be. Should we seriously pick a guy who has played 10 state level tests in his life to go up against Pietersen, Cooke and those guys?”
Julian “Bit harsh”
Waugh “Bit harsh? He was chucking that many pies at Pietersen he may as well have opened a bakery on days 2 and 3.”
Fleming “North?”
Waugh “Gone”
Julian “Bollinger? Siddle?”
Waugh “Gone”
Gladstone Small “ Can I interrupt for a minute?”
Waugh “No”
Julian “Junior is on a bit of a roll here Stone”
Waugh “No I mean fair go, we’ve got it wrong here. If I’m the only bloke not happy that we’ve been rolled for an innings and 70 odd runs on a runway of a pitch and that lets be honest we’re going to have a summer of the poms handing us our **** in this series then fair go boys, something’s wrong here. What’s Clarke doing after getting out? He’s on twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there’d be hell to pay. AB would chuck his twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? *expletive*

[Baron Greenback]

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Fox Sports 3’s Inside Cricket last night, transcript:
Brendan Julian “So where do we go from here boys, Junior what do you reckon?”
Mark Waugh “Mate if I was a selector there are at least five, maybe six, of those blokes who’d be looking for something to do next week, because they wouldn’t be playing cricket in Perth.”
Damien Fleming “Such as?”
Waugh “Mate, Doherty for a start. I mean jeez, we’ve picked a bloke because we don’t know who our spinner should be. Should we seriously pick a guy who has played 10 state level tests in his life to go up against Pietersen, Cooke and those guys?”
Julian “Bit harsh”
Waugh “Bit harsh? He was chucking that many pies at Pietersen he may as well have opened a bakery on days 2 and 3.”
Fleming “North?”
Waugh “Gone”
Julian “Bollinger? Siddle?”
Waugh “Gone”
Gladstone Small “ Can I interrupt for a minute?”
Waugh “No”
Julian “Junior is on a bit of a roll here Stone”
Waugh “No I mean fair go, we’ve got it wrong here. If I’m the only bloke not happy that we’ve been rolled for an innings and 70 odd runs on a runway of a pitch and that lets be honest we’re going to have a summer of the poms handing us our **** in this series then fair go boys, something’s wrong here. What’s Clarke doing after getting out? He’s on twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there’d be hell to pay. AB would chuck his twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? *expletive*

Love it! Well said Junior!

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Fox Sports 3’s Inside Cricket last night, transcript:
Brendan Julian “So where do we go from here boys, Junior what do you reckon?”
Mark Waugh “Mate if I was a selector there are at least five, maybe six, of those blokes who’d be looking for something to do next week, because they wouldn’t be playing cricket in Perth.”
Damien Fleming “Such as?”
Waugh “Mate, Doherty for a start. I mean jeez, we’ve picked a bloke because we don’t know who our spinner should be. Should we seriously pick a guy who has played 10 state level tests in his life to go up against Pietersen, Cooke and those guys?”
Julian “Bit harsh”
Waugh “Bit harsh? He was chucking that many pies at Pietersen he may as well have opened a bakery on days 2 and 3.”
Fleming “North?”
Waugh “Gone”
Julian “Bollinger? Siddle?”
Waugh “Gone”
Gladstone Small “ Can I interrupt for a minute?”
Waugh “No”
Julian “Junior is on a bit of a roll here Stone”
Waugh “No I mean fair go, we’ve got it wrong here. If I’m the only bloke not happy that we’ve been rolled for an innings and 70 odd runs on a runway of a pitch and that lets be honest we’re going to have a summer of the poms handing us our **** in this series then fair go boys, something’s wrong here. What’s Clarke doing after getting out? He’s on twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there’d be hell to pay. AB would chuck his twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? *expletive*

Sensational!!

[RoosterMarty]

Great work by Junior, love how he speaks his mind.

[wycbloods]

Good to see him speaking his mind and speaking passionately about it.

[Jim05]

Well spoken. Surely we are not the only ones embarassed by the adelaide flogging. Make some tough calls if 5 or 6 have to go then so be it

[mal]

Sportingbet have an interesting market

WHO WILL BE AU SPINNER IN THE 3RD TEST
$1-50 SMITH only
$3-00 HAURITZ only
$5-00 ANY OTHER COMBINATION [Includes no speciallist spinner]
$10-00 SMITH and HAURITZ
$34 DOHERTY only
$51 SMITH + DOHERTY

Would seem to suggest that SMITH will get a gig in Perth

[NFC]

Here is an article to kick off talk for the 3rd test.

NEW South Wales fast bowler Mark Cameron is the fresh face in contention for the third Ashes Test starting in Perth next Thursday.
The 29-year-old right-armer has supporters among a group of former players who were asked yesterday to select a team for the do-or-die Test.

Ian Healy and Simon O'Donnell nominated Cameron for inclusion on a Perth track expected to be fast and bouncy, returning to its character of the 1980s and 1990s.

But Healy warned against panic and said left-arm spinner Xavier Doherty should be retained despite taking only three wickets in his first two Tests.

"My first couple of Tests weren't very good and nor were Shane Warne's," Healy said.

"To drop Doherty would smack of impatience and ridicule his selection in the first place. England panicked for 17 years before they started getting their selection right.

"As far as our pacemen go, I wouldn't choose Mitchell Johnson again until he's gone back to domestic ranks and got some confidence.

"Doug Bollinger plays only if he's a lot fitter than we saw in Adelaide and Mark Cameron is a big, strong bloke who impresses me. I'm also worried that Ryan Harris might have a niggle."

Former leg-spinner Stuart MacGill said Mike Hussey and Michael Clarke should swap batting positions. He also recommended recalling paceman Brett Lee from the wilderness and giving Nathan Hauritz another chance as the first-choice tweaker.

"If they told Brett Lee they wanted him to play, he would play," MacGill said.

Former batsman Greg Blewett said he wouldn't be upset if the selectors went with Cameron and he hoped they pick four quicks for the WACA Ground, plus Shane Watson and Steve Smith.

"In reality, Smith probably isn't ready but, being a leggie, he might just snaffle you a couple of wickets," he said.

"We have to take wickets and I think Smith is a better option than Xavier Doherty. The other player they may look at is Jason Krejza. He is the most attacking spinner in the country."

Former all-rounder Simon O'Donnell said the Australian selectors must make a statement, such as stating Steve Smith and Phillip Hughes are going to be part of the Test side for some years.

"Far from the doom and gloom which is hanging over Australian cricket, I believe our future is bright, particularly in the fast bowling ranks," O'Donnell said.

"The problem is injury has hit Josh Hazlewood, James Pattinson and Mitchell Stark, but all three of those boys will play Test cricket for Australia.

"Right now we don't have a leader of our attack. Mitchell Johnson should be that person and if he comes back he must demand the new ball. It's laughable that he has often bowled as a first change."

Greg Matthews said Hussey should go, despite his strong start to the summer.

"Mike Hussey got more chances than most. Sure, he has made runs now, but Usman Khawaja should have been picked ahead of him for the first Test," he said.

"And Ben Hilfenhaus has played 15 Tests but never looked liked taking a five-for."

PLAY LEE!!

[wycbloods]

Here is an article to kick off talk for the 3rd test.

NEW South Wales fast bowler Mark Cameron is the fresh face in contention for the third Ashes Test starting in Perth next Thursday.
The 29-year-old right-armer has supporters among a group of former players who were asked yesterday to select a team for the do-or-die Test.

Ian Healy and Simon O'Donnell nominated Cameron for inclusion on a Perth track expected to be fast and bouncy, returning to its character of the 1980s and 1990s.

But Healy warned against panic and said left-arm spinner Xavier Doherty should be retained despite taking only three wickets in his first two Tests.

"My first couple of Tests weren't very good and nor were Shane Warne's," Healy said.

"To drop Doherty would smack of impatience and ridicule his selection in the first place. England panicked for 17 years before they started getting their selection right.

"As far as our pacemen go, I wouldn't choose Mitchell Johnson again until he's gone back to domestic ranks and got some confidence.

"Doug Bollinger plays only if he's a lot fitter than we saw in Adelaide and Mark Cameron is a big, strong bloke who impresses me. I'm also worried that Ryan Harris might have a niggle."

Former leg-spinner Stuart MacGill said Mike Hussey and Michael Clarke should swap batting positions. He also recommended recalling paceman Brett Lee from the wilderness and giving Nathan Hauritz another chance as the first-choice tweaker.

"If they told Brett Lee they wanted him to play, he would play," MacGill said.

Former batsman Greg Blewett said he wouldn't be upset if the selectors went with Cameron and he hoped they pick four quicks for the WACA Ground, plus Shane Watson and Steve Smith.

"In reality, Smith probably isn't ready but, being a leggie, he might just snaffle you a couple of wickets," he said.

"We have to take wickets and I think Smith is a better option than Xavier Doherty. The other player they may look at is Jason Krejza. He is the most attacking spinner in the country."

Former all-rounder Simon O'Donnell said the Australian selectors must make a statement, such as stating Steve Smith and Phillip Hughes are going to be part of the Test side for some years.

"Far from the doom and gloom which is hanging over Australian cricket, I believe our future is bright, particularly in the fast bowling ranks," O'Donnell said.

"The problem is injury has hit Josh Hazlewood, James Pattinson and Mitchell Stark, but all three of those boys will play Test cricket for Australia.

"Right now we don't have a leader of our attack. Mitchell Johnson should be that person and if he comes back he must demand the new ball. It's laughable that he has often bowled as a first change."

Greg Matthews said Hussey should go, despite his strong start to the summer.

"Mike Hussey got more chances than most. Sure, he has made runs now, but Usman Khawaja should have been picked ahead of him for the first Test," he said.

"And Ben Hilfenhaus has played 15 Tests but never looked liked taking a five-for."

PLAY LEE!!

No thanks

[NFC]

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Fox Sports 3’s Inside Cricket last night, transcript:
Brendan Julian “So where do we go from here boys, Junior what do you reckon?”
Mark Waugh “Mate if I was a selector there are at least five, maybe six, of those blokes who’d be looking for something to do next week, because they wouldn’t be playing cricket in Perth.”
Damien Fleming “Such as?”
Waugh “Mate, Doherty for a start. I mean jeez, we’ve picked a bloke because we don’t know who our spinner should be. Should we seriously pick a guy who has played 10 state level tests in his life to go up against Pietersen, Cooke and those guys?”
Julian “Bit harsh”
Waugh “Bit harsh? He was chucking that many pies at Pietersen he may as well have opened a bakery on days 2 and 3.”
Fleming “North?”
Waugh “Gone”
Julian “Bollinger? Siddle?”
Waugh “Gone”
Gladstone Small “ Can I interrupt for a minute?”
Waugh “No”
Julian “Junior is on a bit of a roll here Stone”
Waugh “No I mean fair go, we’ve got it wrong here. If I’m the only bloke not happy that we’ve been rolled for an innings and 70 odd runs on a runway of a pitch and that lets be honest we’re going to have a summer of the poms handing us our **** in this series then fair go boys, something’s wrong here. What’s Clarke doing after getting out? He’s on twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there’d be hell to pay. AB would chuck his twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? *expletive*

I watched IC, and I didn't see this...

[NFC]

PLAY LEE!!

No thanks

Why not? Been in great form this season, is a proven international wicket taker, is better than Siddle and Dougeth, why not?

[Rik E Boy]

PLAY LEE!!

No thanks

Why not? Been in great form this season, is a proven international wicket taker, is better than Siddle and Dougeth, why not?

He couldn't get them out in 2005 that's why. Can't lead the attack so pick Cameron or Copeland instead.

regards,

REB

[NFC]

PLAY LEE!!

No thanks

Why not? Been in great form this season, is a proven international wicket taker, is better than Siddle and Dougeth, why not?

He couldn't get them out in 2005 that's why. Can't lead the attack so pick Cameron or Copeland instead.

regards,

REB

Hughes
Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Khawaja
Haddin
Smith
Harris
Lee
Hilfenhaus

Too easy really.

[valleys07]

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Fox Sports 3’s Inside Cricket last night, transcript:
Brendan Julian “So where do we go from here boys, Junior what do you reckon?”
Mark Waugh “Mate if I was a selector there are at least five, maybe six, of those blokes who’d be looking for something to do next week, because they wouldn’t be playing cricket in Perth.”
Damien Fleming “Such as?”
Waugh “Mate, Doherty for a start. I mean jeez, we’ve picked a bloke because we don’t know who our spinner should be. Should we seriously pick a guy who has played 10 state level tests in his life to go up against Pietersen, Cooke and those guys?”
Julian “Bit harsh”
Waugh “Bit harsh? He was chucking that many pies at Pietersen he may as well have opened a bakery on days 2 and 3.”
Fleming “North?”
Waugh “Gone”
Julian “Bollinger? Siddle?”
Waugh “Gone”
Gladstone Small “ Can I interrupt for a minute?”
Waugh “No”
Julian “Junior is on a bit of a roll here Stone”
Waugh “No I mean fair go, we’ve got it wrong here. If I’m the only bloke not happy that we’ve been rolled for an innings and 70 odd runs on a runway of a pitch and that lets be honest we’re going to have a summer of the poms handing us our **** in this series then fair go boys, something’s wrong here. What’s Clarke doing after getting out? He’s on twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there’d be hell to pay. AB would chuck his twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? *expletive*

Great call junior.