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40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby brod » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:45 pm

Cricket Australia is considering introducing a completely new limited-overs format as soon as next season, in what could be another nail in the coffin of the 50-over game. The Australian has reported that the CA board will this week discuss a domestic tournament of 40-over games, with each team to bat for two innings of 20 overs.

In effect, the format would resemble two Twenty20 matches played back to back, although wickets lost and runs scored would accumulate over the full 40 overs. The existing 50-over FR Cup is likely to be played at the start of the upcoming Australian summer with the new competition, if approved, set to take place in the new year.

Such a move would raise questions over the future of the World Cup, with England and South Africa already having reduced their domestic limited-overs tournaments to 40 overs. Making the change so close to next year's World Cup could also rob some players of practice in the 50-over format, although Australia's ODI team will continue playing the longer games.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby brod » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:59 pm

One-day cricket in its familiar form could soon become a thing of the past after the Cricket Australia board gave the green light to a trial of split-innings state games next summer. If the new format is successful, Cricket Australia will take the idea to the ICC as a plan to keep ODIs alive, meaning the 2015 World Cup could feature a split-innings format.

Although there has been no decision on how many overs each innings would be - four innings of either 20 or 25 overs are the most likely - CA will finalise their concept in the coming weeks. The first four rounds of the FR Cup will be played under the existing rules before the new format is introduced for the remaining six rounds, which will start in February.

By then, Australia's World Cup squad will have departed, so their preparations will not be affected. James Sutherland, the CA chief executive, said the innovation was intended as a way to retain all three formats of the game, with the middle portion of 50-over innings having become largely predictable.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Gozu » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:23 am

Absolute rubbish. Either stop playing ODI's altogether or just leave the 50 over game as is.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:11 pm

Gozu wrote:Absolute rubbish. Either stop playing ODI's altogether or just leave the 50 over game as is.

Agreed.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:39 am

Gozu wrote:Absolute rubbish. Either stop playing ODI's altogether or just leave the 50 over game as is.


At least the 50 over game has some strategy behind it, I compare it to a mid-distance swimming event, jump out the gates at a decent rate, maintain a steady rate during the middle section without burning too much energy(wickets) and conserve for the final sprint.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Media Park » Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:11 pm

Aren't the ICC happy with the raft of 300, 350 + scores in International 50 over cricket?

And CA happy with the high-200's and odd 300's that occur domestically?

The 20 over cricket in Aus hasn't been too inspiring, and they want to bastardise our game to appease the Gods of cricket, the BCCI?
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby MAY-Z » Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:44 am

this is a terrible decision for cricket and the first step in removing test and 50 over cricket from the world so that all that is left if twenty20.

all this effectively does is create 2 t20 matches which provide little patience and strategy which is wht the game of cricket is all about.

there have been so many good 50 over games of late - just last night between sri lanka and pakistan which would not be possible, even in the domestic game their are so many games tat get decided in the last over after 100 overs of fluctuations
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:35 pm

MAY-Z wrote:All this effectively does is create 2 t20 matches which provide little patience and strategy which is what the game of cricket is all about.

Agreed. Cricket is like a game of chess, that's what makes it so fun and interesting. To kill that off would just be killing the game, for the present and future.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Pidge » Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:17 am

MAY-Z wrote:this is a terrible decision for cricket and the first step in removing test and 50 over cricket from the world so that all that is left if twenty20.

all this effectively does is create 2 t20 matches which provide little patience and strategy which is wht the game of cricket is all about.

there have been so many good 50 over games of late - just last night between sri lanka and pakistan which would not be possible, even in the domestic game their are so many games tat get decided in the last over after 100 overs of fluctuations


Couldn't agree more.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:40 am

Pidge wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:this is a terrible decision for cricket and the first step in removing test and 50 over cricket from the world so that all that is left if twenty20.

all this effectively does is create 2 t20 matches which provide little patience and strategy which is wht the game of cricket is all about.

there have been so many good 50 over games of late - just last night between sri lanka and pakistan which would not be possible, even in the domestic game their are so many games tat get decided in the last over after 100 overs of fluctuations


Couldn't agree more.


just thinking about this a bit more - would sa have appointed klinger if they knew this was going to happen? they didnt see him as an automatic t20 choice but after 1 minor hiccup he was an automtaic 50 over choice. now with the 50 over stuff being basically 2 t20s is there a place for him?

also would victoria have let blizzard go? with 2 formats he can dominate him now as opposed to 1 he might be a better pickup than first thought

the next point is plenty of test players get blooded in the 50 over games - hussey, m clarke, hauritz, johnson, haddin, etc all played 50 over internationals before playing test cricket - greg blewett played test cricket almost exclusively because of his 50 over form for australia a. players can be blooded in 50 over cricket as there is time to show temprement and technique which is not possible in teh shorter forms

cricket is n unique sport that can be showcased in 3 different ways and still provide some quality so killing off one format cant be a good idea.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:19 pm

Gozu wrote:Absolute rubbish. Either stop playing ODI's altogether or just leave the 50 over game as is.


Disagree. One Dayers used to be 60 overs a side (1975 World Cup). It's not Test Cricket so who cares if they mix it up a little?

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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Drop Bear » Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:55 pm

Bad idea. Just cuts another 20 overs of drinking time.
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Re: 40 over cricket in Australia ??

Postby Hondo » Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:25 pm

There's a lot of attachment to the 50 over format and I'm not really sure why? As REB said, it was the first attempt to barstardise test cricket and now it's close to run it's course (in the opinion of some) so we look for a new way to barstardise the original. Don't forget what 50 over cricket is and what it isn't (test cricket). It's almost as though 50 over cricket has become "traditional" somehow.

50 over games have a wasted 10 overs per innings where very little happens. When it started, there was stuff happening all the time because teams hadn't worked out the right way to go about it. Nowadays the tactics have outsmarted the format IMO. Who truly sits down and watches every single ball of a 50 over game, glued to the screen? Obviously some still do, but a whole lot don't anymore.
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