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Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:02 pm
by spell_check
Not even the Murali rule can accomodate for him it appears:
http://www.cricinfo.com/australia/conte ... 43440.html
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

Posted:
Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:03 pm
by CoverKing
This would be his 3rd or 4th time Spelly??
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:08 pm
by spell_check
CoverKing wrote:This would be his 3rd or 4th time Spelly??
Three, I remember him for the same reason in the ING Cup Final in 2006. Probably all I remember him for actually.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:01 am
by Adelaide Hawk
My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:36 am
by catchisthecry
Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
Aaron Bird does
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:09 am
by Lightning McQueen
Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:10 am
by Lightning McQueen
catchisthecry wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
Aaron Bird does
I was thinking the same thing every time I watch him in the big bash.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:37 am
by The Sleeping Giant
Lightning McQueen wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:51 am
by Lightning McQueen
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Yes, you try and gain extra spin by throwing the ball, no advantage. The chucking rule got introduced to outlaw players gaining extra pace by throwing the ball.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:52 am
by shoe boy
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Muri pings that quick one!!!
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:11 am
by rod_rooster
Lightning McQueen wrote:The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:My standard response: If Murali doesn't throw, nobody does.
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Yes, you try and gain extra spin by throwing the ball, no advantage. The chucking rule got introduced to outlaw players gaining extra pace by throwing the ball.
You have to be joking surely?
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

Posted:
Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:16 am
by Hondo
It's a fair point that LM makes and one that often gets forgotten. The chucking rule was mainly about stopping pace bowlers pitching the ball like baseballers and getting unfair extra speed rather than an offspinner getting extra tweak. Off-spinners are arguably usually the least threatening and least successful of all the bowling types. That doesn't mean Murali doesn't throw (I am not convinced he does) but it's just an observation and I understand what LM is getting at.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:28 am
by shoe boy
hondo71 wrote:It's a fair point that LM makes and one that often gets forgotten. The chucking rule was mainly about stopping pace bowlers pitching the ball like baseballers and getting unfair extra speed rather than an offspinner getting extra tweak. Off-spinners are arguably usually the least threatening and least successful of all the bowling types. That doesn't mean Murali doesn't throw (I am not convinced he does) but it's just an observation and I understand what LM is getting at.
What u mean like Tait??
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 am
by Lightning McQueen
rod_rooster wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Yes, you try and gain extra spin by throwing the ball, no advantage. The chucking rule got introduced to outlaw players gaining extra pace by throwing the ball.
You have to be joking surely?
Go and try it mate.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 am
by Lightning McQueen
shoe boy wrote:hondo71 wrote:It's a fair point that LM makes and one that often gets forgotten. The chucking rule was mainly about stopping pace bowlers pitching the ball like baseballers and getting unfair extra speed rather than an offspinner getting extra tweak. Off-spinners are arguably usually the least threatening and least successful of all the bowling types. That doesn't mean Murali doesn't throw (I am not convinced he does) but it's just an observation and I understand what LM is getting at.
What u mean like Tait??
Ahhh here we go again, your mate Tait. No bent arm there mate, just an unorthodox slinging action.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:32 am
by Lightning McQueen
shoe boy wrote:The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:
IMO it's a big difference when you are throwing to gain pace.
As opposed to throwing to gain spin?
Muri pings that quick one!!!
Yeah, must reach 90 at least.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:34 am
by Lightning McQueen
Murali has double-jointed wrists, that's why his action looks so suss, if someone had five fingers and a thumb would they be not allowed to play cricket?
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:37 am
by rod_rooster
Lightning McQueen wrote:
Go and try it mate.
Are you honestly suggesting you can't put more spin on a ball by throwing it than when bowling it?
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:44 am
by Lightning McQueen
rod_rooster wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:
Go and try it mate.
Are you honestly suggesting you can't put more spin on a ball by throwing it than when bowling it?
Accurately, yes. You'd be using too many muscles/ joints simultaneously and they would have to go against each other. You use less muscles/ joints with a straight arm.
Re: Aaron Bird once again reported for throwing

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Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:03 pm
by Booney
Watch Kieron Pollard 'bowl' the next time he plays.