Brad Hodge

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Is Brad Hodge one of Australia's top 6 batsmen

Poll ended at Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:37 am

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Brad Hodge

Postby Ned » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:28 am

I feel for this guy, clearly has been one of this countrys best batsmen over the years, age is not on his side but I would love to see him come into the test team for a couple of years. The must have a allrounder policy ( even though im not good enough ) has cruely stopped Hodge from forging a prominent test career.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:03 am

REB to thread.

IMHO Hodge is a very good player at Shield level but not quite good enough for Test cricket.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Adelaide Hawk » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:23 am

Of course he isn't .. why do you ask?
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby heater31 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:28 am

Time to bring some youth into the side. Not blokes who are 30 + who are hanging on for the cash that this game generates
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:32 am

I don't feel sorry for Hodge. He has been living off a double century made at Perth when he was dropped before he made fifty against a side with no spinner. He has been found out by spinners even at the domestic level and even though he has improved in this area in recent seasons in the domestic scene the thought of selecting Hodge to play against Murali, Harbijhan or Vettori does not inspire a lot of confidence.

Hodge has been an excellent player for Victoria and is one of those unlucky players but his recent comment about playing lawn bowls for Australia has effectively finished his career. Think back to Dean Jones, Wayne Phillips and David Hookes. Some ill timed comments saw them shut out of the international scene as soon as they were made.

As for playing in the test side, Hodge is not better than Hussey times two, Clarke, Ponting and he doesn't open the batting. He doesn't bowl so why should he be in the side.

With everyone fit my side would like this. Instead of trying to play dodgy 'all rounders' like McDonald it's time to elevate Haddin and Johnson and select five bowlers.

Katich
Jaques
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Haddin
Johnson
Lee
Siddle
McGain
Clark

Problem is a few of those blokes are injured or are carrying injuries of course so our next test side won't look like that. Maybe the next test side will look like this

Katich
M Hussey
Ponting
Clarke
D Hussey
Haddin
Johnson
Hauritz (unfortunately)
Siddle
Hilfenhaus
Bollinger

Either way. No room for Hodge. I reckon Rogers will have more right to be upset than Hodge if they select D Hussey in the middle or Marsh as the opener.

Nick Hodge, have a whinge.

regards,

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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Ned » Sat Jan 17, 2009 10:49 am

Adelaide Hawk wrote:Of course he isn't .. why do you ask?


He's played 6 Tests at a average of 56, is the all time leading run scorer for Victoria. Is a better batsmen than Symonds, Watson, McDonald,D.Hussey. Made a fighting 60 odd in his last test when Australia was under the pump. Got out to spin a couple of times in a Indian ODI tournament, he cant play spin was everyones excuse for him not getting picked after that. Got out to a couple of short balls against South Africa in Test cricket and he cant play short bowling was their excuse even though two games earlier ahd made a double ton. There is no doubt he is in our top six batsmen.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby rod_rooster » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:24 am

If you think there is no doubt then why ask the question? Seems to me that most of the people who have replied here agree that Hodge is not in the best 6 batsmen and the poll currently stand at 3 yes and 4 no. I'd say that indicates some doubt.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby stan » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:11 pm

Hodge is a nicker. Get a ball that moves a bit and hes gone.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:29 pm

Ned wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Of course he isn't .. why do you ask?


He's played 6 Tests at a average of 56, is the all time leading run scorer for Victoria. Is a better batsmen than Symonds, Watson, McDonald,D.Hussey. Made a fighting 60 odd in his last test when Australia was under the pump. Got out to spin a couple of times in a Indian ODI tournament, he cant play spin was everyones excuse for him not getting picked after that. Got out to a couple of short balls against South Africa in Test cricket and he cant play short bowling was their excuse even though two games earlier ahd made a double ton. There is no doubt he is in our top six batsmen.


I knew he couldn't play spin before the Indian one dayers. It just confirmed what I already knew. When the Bushrangers were playing the Blues in a Franger cup match a few years ago Hodge came to the crease and Katich threw the ball to Hauritz and it was bye bye Bradley. It's not an excuse, it is a well known flaw. And no way is Nick Hodge a better bat than D Hussey IMO.

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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby NFC » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:44 pm

Very good player, extremely unlucky, but sorry he's not what we need. Pass.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby hearts on fire » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:52 pm

NFC wrote:Very good player, extremely unlucky, but sorry he's not what we need. Pass.

well said.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby gadj1976 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:01 pm

I never heard Siddons question the selectors about their reasoning of not picking him. In my opinion, with Australia in the situation they are in, he'd be about the last bloke I'd call upon - based on form and age.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Ned » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:50 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Ned wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Of course he isn't .. why do you ask?


He's played 6 Tests at a average of 56, is the all time leading run scorer for Victoria. Is a better batsmen than Symonds, Watson, McDonald,D.Hussey. Made a fighting 60 odd in his last test when Australia was under the pump. Got out to spin a couple of times in a Indian ODI tournament, he cant play spin was everyones excuse for him not getting picked after that. Got out to a couple of short balls against South Africa in Test cricket and he cant play short bowling was their excuse even though two games earlier ahd made a double ton. There is no doubt he is in our top six batsmen.


I knew he couldn't play spin before the Indian one dayers. It just confirmed what I already knew. When the Bushrangers were playing the Blues in a Franger cup match a few years ago Hodge came to the crease and Katich threw the ball to Hauritz and it was bye bye Bradley. It's not an excuse, it is a well known flaw. And no way is Nick Hodge a better bat than D Hussey IMO.

regards,

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If hodge cant play spin then it just shows how bad Australia's spin bowling stocks have been in the past 15 years. Here is a guy that has made more runs than any other Victorian at shield level, yet the way REB makes it sound is if u bring on any spin bowler Hodge will be on his way to the pavillion next ball, what a joke, he plays spin better than Ponting and he's captain and the best batsmen in the world.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Rik E Boy » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:55 pm

Ned wrote:
Ponting cant play spin either


No need for another then.

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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Gozu » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:06 am

Top six batsman my foot. It's not just the spin thing but the guy has always been far too self-centred. He almost always puts himself ahead of the team and if the team situation calls for it will try his hardest not to hit anything in the air and too often in one dayers and 20/20 cricket leaves up to whoever is at the other end to play the risky shots.

An extreme version of Damien Martyn.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby wycbloods » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:03 pm

Ned wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:
Ned wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Of course he isn't .. why do you ask?


He's played 6 Tests at a average of 56, is the all time leading run scorer for Victoria. Is a better batsmen than Symonds, Watson, McDonald,D.Hussey. Made a fighting 60 odd in his last test when Australia was under the pump. Got out to spin a couple of times in a Indian ODI tournament, he cant play spin was everyones excuse for him not getting picked after that. Got out to a couple of short balls against South Africa in Test cricket and he cant play short bowling was their excuse even though two games earlier ahd made a double ton. There is no doubt he is in our top six batsmen.


I knew he couldn't play spin before the Indian one dayers. It just confirmed what I already knew. When the Bushrangers were playing the Blues in a Franger cup match a few years ago Hodge came to the crease and Katich threw the ball to Hauritz and it was bye bye Bradley. It's not an excuse, it is a well known flaw. And no way is Nick Hodge a better bat than D Hussey IMO.

regards,

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If hodge cant play spin then it just shows how bad Australia's spin bowling stocks have been in the past 15 years. Here is a guy that has made more runs than any other Victorian at shield level, yet the way REB makes it sound is if u bring on any spin bowler Hodge will be on his way to the pavillion next ball, what a joke, he plays spin better than Ponting and he's captain and the best batsmen in the world.


Are u serious he would have faced as much of Shane Warne as any as he played state cricket with him for a long time. Also he has played against Stuart Mcgill for a long time and i am pretty sure they are handy spin bowlers.
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Rik E Boy » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:20 am

Please don't put words in my mouth Nedwin. All I said it is a well known flaw. I've seen it against the Bluebaggers and we all saw against India. Bye bye Nick.

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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby MatteeG » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:25 am

Its nice having REB bagging a DIFFERENT Hodge :D
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby Pidge » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:10 pm

This poll should have a third option. He is good enough to be in the top six, but im not sure if he is at the moment. Tough one imo
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Re: Brad Hodge

Postby MagicKiwi » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:51 pm

Hodge will tell you himself he's one of the country's top six.
And that he's the only one who works hard enough to be there...

Another flaw.
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