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I get very disappointed that hear that Cossie appears to have done his dash with the Redbacks. A massive talent (no pun intended) that appears to have wasted it. What's everyones thoughts ?

I create an argument every time I discuss this guy so all I'll say is until he changes his attitude in many ways, he's gone. People have done everything they can, it's now up to him.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:I create an argument every time I discuss this guy so all I'll say is until he changes his attitude in many ways, he's gone. People have done everything they can, it's now up to him.

It disappoints me that he appears to make minimal effort to change his ways.... most kids growing up would give their left aggot to be a professional sportsman but he seems to take it for granted IMO...

if he doesnt retain his contract for next season i think it could be a huge wake up call for him to lose about 10 to 15 and really concentrate on his cricket....i dont know the guy though and he could be working is arse off now for all i know?

Whatever it takes for him to get back into the side i hope he does it because he is a talent that we can't afford to lose. Hopefully he understands that his cricket future is at stake and pulls his finger out of his you know what and gets on with becoming the best he can be.

What is Cosgrove's future?



Well, we've just been bowled out for **** all yet again to lose to the Tigers today and lesser players in Christian and O'Brien have lobbed at the Redbacks. We could and are doing worse.

regards,

REB

Personally I'm over Cosgrove. Had a very short time as a decent player but too many failures. Has cost us a lot in the effort we've put in for little return. We're better putting the money, time and effort into someone who actually gives a sh*t. Cricket is no longer (if it ever was) a game where you could work as little as he does and have any success. Even Warnie, for all his failings, was less trouble than this guy. And even as great as he was, Warnie was chastised (no captaincy, suspension, loss of sponsorships etc). Let NSW have him. I'll happily swap any of their currently listed players for him.

Well if he dosent start making a bag of runs in the grade comp then thats where he will be staying for a while. even if he goes to NSW or Vic or whatever. If he cant get runs for Northerns then heck he might not play first class cricket again.

Grahaml wrote:Personally I'm over Cosgrove. Had a very short time as a decent player but too many failures. Has cost us a lot in the effort we've put in for little return. We're better putting the money, time and effort into someone who actually gives a sh*t. Cricket is no longer (if it ever was) a game where you could work as little as he does and have any success. Even Warnie, for all his failings, was less trouble than this guy. And even as great as he was, Warnie was chastised (no captaincy, suspension, loss of sponsorships etc). Let NSW have him. I'll happily swap any of their currently listed players for him.

Peter Forrest? I've got my doubts about that player.

regards,

REB

I have come to the conclusion that its the media that has the issue with Mark's perceived weight problem. I walked past him on the Saturday of the Test in the members area and in no way did he look grossly overweight. Agreed that he is not going to win a marathon in world record time but it is now up to Mark to apply himself in the 2nd XI matches and Grade cricket to post those big scores that we would all love him to get and force his way into the firsts and use that talent where it belongs at the highest level.

heater31 wrote:I have come to the conclusion that its the media that has the issue with Mark's perceived weight problem. I walked past him on the Saturday of the Test in the members area and in no way did he look grossly overweight. Agreed that he is not going to win a marathon in world record time but it is now up to Mark to apply himself in the 2nd XI matches and Grade cricket to post those big scores that we would all love him to get and force his way into the firsts and use that talent where it belongs at the highest level.

Mate, Cosgrove is obese by "man in the street" standards. For an elite athlete, he's a disgrace. The guy simply values a midnight feed higher than playing for South Australia, and while that continues you can forget about him.

I'm no fan of the media, but it's not just them who have the issue with Cosgrove's weight, it's the Redbacks coaching panel and selectors.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

heater31 wrote:I have come to the conclusion that its the media that has the issue with Mark's perceived weight problem. I walked past him on the Saturday of the Test in the members area and in no way did he look grossly overweight. Agreed that he is not going to win a marathon in world record time but it is now up to Mark to apply himself in the 2nd XI matches and Grade cricket to post those big scores that we would all love him to get and force his way into the firsts and use that talent where it belongs at the highest level.

Mate, Cosgrove is obese by "man in the street" standards. For an elite athlete, he's a disgrace. The guy simply values a midnight feed higher than playing for South Australia, and while that continues you can forget about him.

I'm no fan of the media, but it's not just them who have the issue with Cosgrove's weight, it's the Redbacks coaching panel and selectors.

for an elite Athlete he is a disgrace? Do you know what Mark's scores are for the various fitness tests they do every pre season? I think you might be in for a bit of a surprise

heater31 wrote:

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

heater31 wrote:I have come to the conclusion that its the media that has the issue with Mark's perceived weight problem. I walked past him on the Saturday of the Test in the members area and in no way did he look grossly overweight. Agreed that he is not going to win a marathon in world record time but it is now up to Mark to apply himself in the 2nd XI matches and Grade cricket to post those big scores that we would all love him to get and force his way into the firsts and use that talent where it belongs at the highest level.

Mate, Cosgrove is obese by "man in the street" standards. For an elite athlete, he's a disgrace. The guy simply values a midnight feed higher than playing for South Australia, and while that continues you can forget about him.

I'm no fan of the media, but it's not just them who have the issue with Cosgrove's weight, it's the Redbacks coaching panel and selectors.

for an elite Athlete he is a disgrace? Do you know what Mark's scores are for the various fitness tests they do every pre season? I think you might be in for a bit of a surprise

Go ahead, surprise me ... what are they?
.... and off he goes to make up a load of BS figures.

Steady on AH, haing worked in the fitness industry Cosgrove is not as bad (size wise) as the average bloke in teh streetm however he is not what I would call fit enough for elite cricket. I don't expect him to run level 15s in teh beep test or sub 10 mins for a 3 km run but he needs to fitter than what he is based on my observations.... mind you cream is not a flattering colour...

i've seen cosgrove more than once on the street & he isn't as big as most think & he looks bigger playing cricket in creams, this has been covered a lot.

but tell me this when the bloke was making runs where were all his knockers then ? very bloody quiet, it is more about his form than his weight, i think all this hype about his weight has put a lot more pressure on him than is/was necessary & ffs the bloke is a human being & has feelings

bayman wrote: but tell me this when the bloke was making runs where were all his knockers then ?

Exactly right bayman, If he is making a shitload of runs thats all I care about. His loss of form is more concerning than fitness IMO

MatteeG wrote:

bayman wrote: but tell me this when the bloke was making runs where were all his knockers then ?

Exactly right bayman, If he is making a shitload of runs thats all I care about. His loss of form is more concerning than fitness IMO

I'm just staggered that people draw no parallel between weight gain and loss of form. When he was making runs (many years ago), although he was a solid boy he was nowhere near as big as he is now. Since he came back from England three years ago, his weight has been unacceptable for a 1st class cricketer.

England is a dangerous place to go if you are a young man with a penchant for fast foods, just ask Ian Chappell and Shane Warne. The difference is, the first two players realised their weight was unacceptable and did something about it. The third person has not.

Cosgrove does not have the fitness to endure long periods at the crease, that is why he is not being selected for South Australia. Cosgrove would be a vastly improved cricketer if he introducted strict control over his diet and I cannot see how anyone can argue with that.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

MatteeG wrote:

bayman wrote: but tell me this when the bloke was making runs where were all his knockers then ?

Exactly right bayman, If he is making a shitload of runs thats all I care about. His loss of form is more concerning than fitness IMO

I'm just staggered that people draw no parallel between weight gain and loss of form. When he was making runs (many years ago), although he was a solid boy he was nowhere near as big as he is now. Since he came back from England three years ago, his weight has been unacceptable for a 1st class cricketer.

England is a dangerous place to go if you are a young man with a penchant for fast foods, just ask Ian Chappell and Shane Warne. The difference is, the first two players realised their weight was unacceptable and did something about it. The third person has not.

Cosgrove does not have the fitness to endure long periods at the crease, that is why he is not being selected for South Australia. Cosgrove would be a vastly improved cricketer if he introducted strict control over his diet and I cannot see how anyone can argue with that.

so ah, you know what he eats & drinks you wouldn't have a clue (neither would i) his weight when making runs to now isn't much different & this was said by mark sorrel on the radio

Enough said..

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

MatteeG wrote:

bayman wrote: but tell me this when the bloke was making runs where were all his knockers then ?

Exactly right bayman, If he is making a shitload of runs thats all I care about. His loss of form is more concerning than fitness IMO

I'm just staggered that people draw no parallel between weight gain and loss of form. When he was making runs (many years ago), although he was a solid boy he was nowhere near as big as he is now. Since he came back from England three years ago, his weight has been unacceptable for a 1st class cricketer.

England is a dangerous place to go if you are a young man with a penchant for fast foods, just ask Ian Chappell and Shane Warne. The difference is, the first two players realised their weight was unacceptable and did something about it. The third person has not.

Cosgrove does not have the fitness to endure long periods at the crease, that is why he is not being selected for South Australia. Cosgrove would be a vastly improved cricketer if he introducted strict control over his diet and I cannot see how anyone can argue with that.

Well i while the Northern District lads feast on a smorgas board at Tea time, cozzie nibbles on his salad. Ive seen it myself.

Cozzy is and endomorph. Endomorphs have a body type that isnt easily changed. Yeah fair enough you can say loose weight but it isnt that easy for some people.

I draw little between his weight and his form i draw more from the media beat up of his weight and a severe lack of confidence.

Boof, Boon and Warne all competed above the average with a less than flattering skin fold test.

Lets not forget weight and fitness can be 2 different things. for some people the hard hand in hand with others they are worlds apart.