The Ashes 25/26

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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby RB » Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:54 am

This is a good one:

200 - Overseas Test defeats for England. They have lost 101 Test matches in Australia now. In the rest of the world (barring England), they have lost 99 matches combined.

It also coincides with the Gabba test being Ben Stokes' 200th first class match.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 9:58 am

RB wrote:
This is a good one:

200 - Overseas Test defeats for England. They have lost 101 Test matches in Australia now. In the rest of the world (barring England), they have lost 99 matches combined.

It also coincides with the Gabba test being Ben Stokes' 200th first class match.


Was a good read.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:01 am

Whilst obviously enjoying the Poms imploding before our very eyes, I’d prefer a series akin the 2005 tour of England, up there with one of the best series I’ve seen.

Pity Billy Bowden didn’t know the rules otherwise it would have been 2-1 Australia’s way, and there’d be a few less Poms with Royal honours.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:25 am

whufc wrote:I'm not sure our bowling attack is getting enough credit.

Yes we have a few out but .....

-Mitchell Starc is proving his above world class and can lead the attack on his own.
-Scott Boland is the perfect foil to Mitchell Starc, with consistent line and length. In his own right has been a very handy test bowler.
-Michael Neser was/is the perfect horses for courses selection. In his small amount of tests has proven his more than capable at test level and if he was born in any other country would have been a test regular.

I said it when Cummins went down but the one area, we do have depth is our bowling.


You reckon? Take out Neser and Starc and I feel as though the Poms have had the better of the rest.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby whufc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:43 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:I'm not sure our bowling attack is getting enough credit.

Yes we have a few out but .....

-Mitchell Starc is proving his above world class and can lead the attack on his own.
-Scott Boland is the perfect foil to Mitchell Starc, with consistent line and length. In his own right has been a very handy test bowler.
-Michael Neser was/is the perfect horses for courses selection. In his small amount of tests has proven his more than capable at test level and if he was born in any other country would have been a test regular.

I said it when Cummins went down but the one area, we do have depth is our bowling.


You reckon? Take out Neser and Starc and I feel as though the Poms have had the better of the rest.


I mean Starc destroyed them in the first innings, first test but Doggett chipped in with 2/27
First Test second innings Boland got 4/33 at 2.83 and then Doggett chipped in with some late ones to get 3/51
Yeah, in the first innings of the second test if it wasnt for Starc we were stuffed but then in the second innings Neser starred with 5/42 and Boland 2/47 at 2.76.

Starc 18 at 14
Doggett 7 at 31
Boland 7 at 32
Neser 6 at 14.

Boland and Doggett have been got to a tad but they also have had 2 innings each out of the 4 where they have bowled well. Everyone is doing their bit when they need to.

Doggett- 2/27, 3/51, 1/81, 1/56
Boland- 0/62, 4/33, 1/87, 2/47
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:46 am

Carey standing up to the stumps means the Whineys can't advance down the pitch to Boland & Neser, bringing their line and length into play nicely
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby am Bays » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:55 am

wenchbarwer wrote:Carey standing up to the stumps means the Whineys can't advance down the pitch to Boland & Neser, bringing their line and length into play nicely


You can’t emphasised this enough.

It was an a obvious ploy by England to bat out of their crease and push forward to cover their stumps (even batting on off) They took LBW and bowled out of the equation and opened up runs on legside.

Carey comes up and immediately that allows Neser and Boland more latitude with length, gives the ball more of a chance to swing and makes the batsman having to think about the keeper. Automatically three additional modes of dismissal are possible compared to when Carey was standing back.

It was brilliant work by “Lucky”
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby whufc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:56 am

What are England going to do with their side.

Neither of their spinners are any good but Jacks is 'ok' with the bat in hand. 1/34 and an economy of 2.96 probably keeps him in the side.

They haven't got many options keeping wise. Maybe at the point that they have to go with Pope and bring in another genuine bat. Bethell is probably the only option with the bat to come in, scoring runs for the Lions and averaging 38 in his first four tests with 3 x 50's.

Atkinson doesnt look like getting wickets and at 2 nil down probably have to take the punt on Wood and Archer coming alive. Maybe just maybe Smith has sparked something in Archer. Funny people had a crack at Konstas going at Bumrah last year but i would have thought Australia might wanted to have kept Archer in his shell given his about Englands only hope of bowling well and not sparked him up albeit what Smith said was right.......surprised more people haven't had a crack at Archer.

We know Archer picks and chooses when to apply effort. Could be an interesting first spell this week......albeit he probably only has one decent spell as day in him.

I'm guessing...........

Crawley
Duckett
Bethell
Root
Brook
Stokes
Pope
Jacks
Carse
Wood
Archer
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 10:58 am

Don’t be so stupid, everything is going to plan nicely, no changes required … say no-one other than Baz
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:08 am

whufc wrote:What are England going to do with their side.

Neither of their spinners are any good but Jacks is 'ok' with the bat in hand. 1/34 and an economy of 2.96 probably keeps him in the side.

They haven't got many options keeping wise. Maybe at the point that they have to go with Pope and bring in another genuine bat. Bethell is probably the only option with the bat to come in, scoring runs for the Lions and averaging 38 in his first four tests with 3 x 50's.

Atkinson doesnt look like getting wickets and at 2 nil down probably have to take the punt on Wood and Archer coming alive. Maybe just maybe Smith has sparked something in Archer. Funny people had a crack at Konstas going at Bumrah last year but i would have thought Australia might wanted to have kept Archer in his shell given his about Englands only hope of bowling well and not sparked him up albeit what Smith said was right.......surprised more people haven't had a crack at Archer.

We know Archer picks and chooses when to apply effort. Could be an interesting first spell this week......albeit he probably only has one decent spell as day in him.

I'm guessing...........

Crawley
Duckett
Bethell
Root
Brook
Stokes
Pope
Jacks
Carse
Wood
Archer


The difference between Bumrah & Archer is that Jasprit has ticker...
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:10 am

The Pommy version of Shaun Tait.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby whufc » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:11 am

wenchbarwer wrote:
whufc wrote:What are England going to do with their side.

Neither of their spinners are any good but Jacks is 'ok' with the bat in hand. 1/34 and an economy of 2.96 probably keeps him in the side.

They haven't got many options keeping wise. Maybe at the point that they have to go with Pope and bring in another genuine bat. Bethell is probably the only option with the bat to come in, scoring runs for the Lions and averaging 38 in his first four tests with 3 x 50's.

Atkinson doesnt look like getting wickets and at 2 nil down probably have to take the punt on Wood and Archer coming alive. Maybe just maybe Smith has sparked something in Archer. Funny people had a crack at Konstas going at Bumrah last year but i would have thought Australia might wanted to have kept Archer in his shell given his about Englands only hope of bowling well and not sparked him up albeit what Smith said was right.......surprised more people haven't had a crack at Archer.

We know Archer picks and chooses when to apply effort. Could be an interesting first spell this week......albeit he probably only has one decent spell as day in him.

I'm guessing...........

Crawley
Duckett
Bethell
Root
Brook
Stokes
Pope
Jacks
Carse
Wood
Archer


The difference between Bumrah & Archer is that Jasprit has ticker...


Couldnt agree more. Archer can have a ticker for about one spell when all conditions are in his favour and he chooses to do so.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:16 am

whufc wrote:Couldnt agree more. Archer can have a ticker for about one spell when all conditions are in his favour and he chooses to do so.


When your fast bowler rocks up the ground with a pillow under his arm, it's pretty hard to take his dedication seriously...

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And McCullum reckons they train too hard!! :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:19 am

wenchbarwer wrote:
whufc wrote:Couldnt agree more. Archer can have a ticker for about one spell when all conditions are in his favour and he chooses to do so.


When your fast bowler rocks up the ground with a pillow under his arm, it's pretty hard to take his dedication seriously...

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And McCullum reckons they train too hard!! :lol: :lol:



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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby am Bays » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:20 am

SAw thhis comment on the socials "Archer, the Temu Ambrose"
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby dedja » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:22 am

Look, I love his action and he’s great when on song, but …
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby wenchbarwer » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:22 am

am Bays wrote:SAw thhis comment on the socials "Archer, the Temu Ambrose"


That's disrespectful to both Curtley and Temu!
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:27 am

dedja wrote:The Pommy version of Shaun Tait.


Ease up Turbo, Tait lacked ability not heart, he gave it everything, just couldn't control the ball with that action and the body was always going to be strained.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:28 am

am Bays wrote:SAw thhis comment on the socials "Archer, the Temu Ambrose"

Noooooooooooooooo!! Leave big Curtly out of this.
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Re: The Ashes 25/26

Postby Jimmy_041 » Mon Dec 08, 2025 11:29 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:I'm not sure our bowling attack is getting enough credit.

Yes we have a few out but .....

-Mitchell Starc is proving his above world class and can lead the attack on his own.
-Scott Boland is the perfect foil to Mitchell Starc, with consistent line and length. In his own right has been a very handy test bowler.
-Michael Neser was/is the perfect horses for courses selection. In his small amount of tests has proven his more than capable at test level and if he was born in any other country would have been a test regular.

I said it when Cummins went down but the one area, we do have depth is our bowling.


You reckon? Take out Neser and Starc and I feel as though the Poms have had the better of the rest.


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