Aus vs SAF Series

[whufc]

so u listen to sledging when you bat do you.

[OnSong]

When did this become about sledging.

[Phantom Gossiper]

so u listen to sledging when you bat do you.

I love having a chat to the fielding side, and if moment arises sledge back

[RustyCage]

as the saying goes, play the ball not the man. No more attacks on other posters - mods

[OnSong]

Bugger, I was sure I had a mental edge then too.

[whufc]

When did this become about sledging.

Its part of the mental battle isnt it?

What im saying is alot of times these mental battles are exaggerated by media outlets etc etc to create stories.

How much will we hear this week about the Smith/Pattinson battle, isnt Smith having a battle with all the Aussie bowlers? Im sure if he was asked which bowler he would prefer to get out to i bet the answer would be 'none of them'

Were the Saffies mentally weak against Aus all those years ago, or was it the fact they simply werent good enough against one of the best test sides in History?

I think the most important aspect of a mental game is the preparation which definatly exsists heading into a match but once the game is underway im sure the Saffie bowlers wont be running up to the stumps thinking 'im not gonna try this ball because i dont think i can get x player out.'

This is a piece still have from one of my old lectures which i really liked

'To suggest that athlete won because "they wanted it more" is actually disrespectful to the other athletes. One will win, and trying to explain why they did often subjects us, to the error of hindsight analysis, where we can pull out reasons that are simply not there or glorified in the aftermath of defeat.'

[OnSong]

I sat here contemplating my response, reading through your fundamentally flawed argument and then I realised, I can't win.
Sure, I'm undoubtedly superior with English and despite sound argument against your point of view, from more than one poster I might add, you keep coming back for more.
You don't quit.
You want it more.
You win.

And there ends the example of how the mental edge works. Thank you, and good night.

[whufc]

I sat here contemplating my response, reading through your fundamentally flawed argument and then I realised, I can't win.
Sure, I'm undoubtedly superior with English and despite sound argument against your point of view, from more than one poster I might add, you keep coming back for more.
You don't quit.
You want it more.
You win.

And there ends the example of how the mental edge works. Thank you, and good night.

if your not already a politician you should become one, very good at not answering simple questions.

[Media Park]

We need a mental disintegration thread to see which poster is the best (I'm backing REB or PG in).

For what it's worth, I see two changes in each side for the next Test.

Australia: Rob Quiney and Ben Hilfenhaus out, Shane Watson (if fit, otherwise Usman Khawaja) and Mitchell Starc in

Rob Quiney was the best available, but long term prospect Khawaja ripped out a great ton, and is the only Aussie that does not want Watto to pull up fit. Watto of course would be straight back in for Quiney if fit. Hilfenhaus was ordinary, no question, and the next best choice is Starc.

South Africa: JP Duminy (injury) and Klienveldt out, Faf Du Plessis and Imran Tahir in

Tahir is a spud of the highest order, and Clarke will rape his bowling, but you need a specialist spinner in the long batting innings that King William Oval produce (and Klienveldt was shit), and Du Plessis was the back up batsman originally, and is also a handy bowler.

[The Dark Knight]

We need a mental disintegration thread to see which poster is the best (I'm backing REB or PG in).

For what it's worth, I see two changes in each side for the next Test.

Australia: Rob Quiney and Ben Hilfenhaus out, Shane Watson (if fit, otherwise Usman Khawaja) and Mitchell Starc in

Rob Quiney was the best available, but long term prospect Khawaja ripped out a great ton, and is the only Aussie that does not want Watto to pull up fit. Watto of course would be straight back in for Quiney if fit. Hilfenhaus was ordinary, no question, and the next best choice is Starc.

South Africa: JP Duminy (injury) and Klienveldt out, Faf Du Plessis and Imran Tahir in

Tahir is a spud of the highest order, and Clarke will rape his bowling, but you need a specialist spinner in the long batting innings that King William Oval produce (and Klienveldt was shit), and Du Plessis was the back up batsman originally, and is also a handy bowler.

That he will.

Fingers crossed watson will be fit. Agreed with you there MP- Hilf out Starc in.

[whufc]

We need a mental disintegration thread to see which poster is the best (I'm backing REB or PG in).

For what it's worth, I see two changes in each side for the next Test.

Australia: Rob Quiney and Ben Hilfenhaus out, Shane Watson (if fit, otherwise Usman Khawaja) and Mitchell Starc in

Rob Quiney was the best available, but long term prospect Khawaja ripped out a great ton, and is the only Aussie that does not want Watto to pull up fit. Watto of course would be straight back in for Quiney if fit. Hilfenhaus was ordinary, no question, and the next best choice is Starc.

South Africa: JP Duminy (injury) and Klienveldt out, Faf Du Plessis and Imran Tahir in

Tahir is a spud of the highest order, and Clarke will rape his bowling, but you need a specialist spinner in the long batting innings that King William Oval produce (and Klienveldt was shit), and Du Plessis was the back up batsman originally, and is also a handy bowler.

That he will.

Fingers crossed watson will be fit. Agreed with you there MP- Hilf out Starc in.

Agree starc in is the way to go.

I reckon the Saffies will bring in Tahir for the medium pace hack. Though I think duminy will be replaced with the back up keeper, apparently there has been some out cry about him continually not selected because of his skin colour.

[Jim05]

Starc has to play instead of Hilf.
If Watson doesnt come up then Quiney deserves another crack.
Reckon the Saffers will bring in Tahir for Kleinveldt and play a genuine keeper which allows DeVilliers to play as a batsman. I think his batting has suffered since taking the gloves and IMO he is nothing special with the gloves.

[Media Park]

Showed a graphic of his career
average 50 without the gloves
average 30 with them

obviously a shorter period keeping, but 20 runs less is huge.

[Pup]

Showed a graphic of his career
average 50 without the gloves
average 30 with them

obviously a shorter period keeping, but 20 runs less is huge.

That was a hugely flawed stat!

He has had now 8 innings as a keeper including that lost not out.. You just can not compare averages over such a short time, It was ridiculous for the commentators to do so but i can hardly be surprised with people like Heals and Tubby running the show.

He needs more time if that comparison is going to be reasonable.

[CoverKing]

All this talk about Starc, he has dominated with the white ball but barely bowled with a red ball for 6 months. I would keep Hilf. Starc at present has 1/50 off 14 overs. If the keeps up this test, I am unsure how that will get him test selection

[Johno6]

IMO Hilfy is a good short game bowler, dont rate him in the longer games as much.

[CoverKing]

IMO Hilfy is a good short game bowler, dont rate him in the longer games as much.

that for real? he is completely opposite. Too expensive in the shorter forms, not enough variation. Clearly a better longer form bowler

[Johno6]

South Africa should not be disappointed
Most touring teams are usually 0-1 down after the Gabba Tests
In racing terms , South Africa will be better for the run

IF is an intangible word
But what IF Michael Clarke was out cheap and AU ends up being about 4/50
I reckon SA would have romped in

This is a crock of shit because Horses don't have to worry about pyschological advantage. The Saffers surrended this mental initiative when their run rate died in the ar5e during the middle session on day three. Instead of trying to make something happen the scoring dried up under pressure and they didn't look like trying to win the game after that.

After four sessions I was a worried fan as I thought 'these blokes are number one and they are all over us'. By the end of day three I was thinking 'Smith lacks belief'. If I sensed that, you can beat your bottom gold coin that Pup and Arthurs did too. Remember how England batted us out of that Gabba test a few years ago and maintained that mental edge? South Africa didn't do that and all that 'the run' might have achieved is a dimishing of the aura they had started to build up around themselves after beating England and being 3/333 in Australia.

regards,

REB

i heard a trainer say a horse wasnt mentally the same after black caviar chased it down n beat it./........


also serious about hilf.

i dont think he does much when the ball doesnt swing...

[mal]

Rogers c Dawson b STARc 125
The Dave B STARc 0
White C 2nd best batsman keeper in Australia B STARc 72
Cameron B STARc 0

STARc 4/72 [22.3]
May not have been selected in the First Test, IF underdone , because he played Nightgown cricket
But no excuses now
Will he be selected ?


PS : The guy who caught White made 108 not out

[MightyEagles]

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