Ricky Ponting to Retire

[eaglehaslanded]

Tubs is easily the best we've had since the late 70's.

I have to disagree with that statement, yes Taylor was a fine captain but he inherited a damn good side. The best captain i've seen in my time is AB he turned around a struggling side into a world powerhouse. He led from the front with the bat and then chimed in when he needed to with the ball as well.

Why is Australia's best cricketer each year named the Alan Border Medallist.

[on the rails]

Tubs is easily the best we've had since the late 70's.

I have to disagree with that statement, yes Taylor was a fine captain but he inherited a damn good side. The best captain i've seen in my time is AB he turned around a struggling side into a world powerhouse. He led from the front with the bat and then chimed in when he needed to with the ball as well.

Why is Australia's best cricketer each year named the Alan Border Medallist.

I agree 100 percent!

[Rik E Boy]

Tubs is easily the best we've had since the late 70's.

I have to disagree with that statement, yes Taylor was a fine captain but he inherited a damn good side. The best captain i've seen in my time is AB he turned around a struggling side into a world powerhouse. He led from the front with the bat and then chimed in when he needed to with the ball as well.

Why is Australia's best cricketer each year named the Alan Border Medallist.

You answered your own question. He led by example but Pugsley did let the game drift at times. Tubby thought outside the box and was a bit more adventorous than AB. AB has been rightly recognised for his overall contribution to Australian Cricket during some very dark times and rightly so. But arguably Bobby Simpson has had as much influence in rebuilding our team.

regards,

REB

[Rik E Boy]

Agreed REB. However, Clarke does have a big say in selection does he not? Have the bowling changes in this match all worked?

Everyone was singing the selectors praises after the first innings.. How fickle supporters can be and i am not talking about you by the way.

You can see where the selectors were coming from though. They had no choice with Patto and Hilfy looked decidely unthreatening and Siddle was rooted. Not sure what else they could have done.

regards,

REB

[JK]

Steve Waugh for mine, Tub and AB were obviously great skippers though .. Chappelli a bit before my time

[FlyingHigh]

Tubs is easily the best we've had since the late 70's.

I have to disagree with that statement, yes Taylor was a fine captain but he inherited a damn good side. The best captain i've seen in my time is AB he turned around a struggling side into a world powerhouse. He led from the front with the bat and then chimed in when he needed to with the ball as well.

Why is Australia's best cricketer each year named the Alan Border Medallist.

I agree 100 percent!

You answered your own question. He led by example but Pugsley did let the game drift at times. Tubby thought outside the box and was a bit more adventorous than AB. AB has been rightly recognised for his overall contribution to Australian Cricket during some very dark times and rightly so. But arguably Bobby Simpson has had as much influence in rebuilding our team.

regards,

REB

Good call REB.

Sure, it was a reasonable side, but Slater was only a year into his career, the fast bowling was unsettled and in transition and we won in the Windies without McDermott and Fleming.
It was Taylor and Greg Matthews who had such a profound impact on a self-doubting Warne in Sri Lanka in 1992 and tactically Taylor captaincy with Warne was superior.
Perhaps Taylor had more off-field support around him with the game becoming increasingly professional.

[FlyingHigh]

Has Chappelli been wiped from memory as well... WTF?

A legend in his own mind.
He definitely rates himself as our best; I'm not sure his record stacks up & he did have some outstanding players at his disposal.

Don't know about that. The side was ordinary when he took over and Marsh, Lillee and Greg Chappell were only starting their careers, Walker and Thomson hadn't played. Out of the 30 tests he captained, he only had Thomson and Lillee together in 10 of them.

Just about every player who played with and against him rate him as the best they played with or against.

[Media Park]

I think waugh and ponting had the better players which made it easier. Me or reb could have captained wins with hayden langer m waugh lehmann gilchrist lee gillespie warne and mcgrath at our disposal.

[JK]

I think waugh and ponting had the better players which made it easier. Me or reb could have captained wins with hayden langer m waugh lehmann gilchrist lee gillespie warne and mcgrath at our disposal.

Definitely Waugh had an established side .. Had some record runs of consecutive victories etc, and loved his attacking nature.

Taylor had plenty of time with an established side also, and was perfect at building on the platform AB had created for him.

Tugga is my favourite player, so I admit to bias, for sure.

[Media Park]

And waugh leaves only for clarke to come in to punters side. S clark, bollinger knocking on the door, hodge and hussey floating around. How sad for ricky.

[Ruben Carter]

Stats still say Ponting has the best record as Aussie captain - we all have an opinion on how "lucky" or "unlucky" he was with the players, yada yada - but the record is there & its indisputable. I could argue that Sydney weren't the best AFL team last season but I don't think they'd really care...

[on the rails]

Stats still say Ponting has the best record as Aussie captain - we all have an opinion on how "lucky" or "unlucky" he was with the players, yada yada - but the record is there & its indisputable. I could argue that Sydney weren't the best AFL team last season but I don't think they'd really care...

Stats also show he is the only Australian skipper to lose 2 Ashes series as well. So stats are the basis of your argument?

[smac]

Won most tests as captain isn't best captain. Still best bat I've seen.

[Rik E Boy]

Stats still say Ponting has the best record as Aussie captain - we all have an opinion on how "lucky" or "unlucky" he was with the players, yada yada - but the record is there & its indisputable. I could argue that Sydney weren't the best AFL team last season but I don't think they'd really care...

Stats also show he is the only Australian skipper to lose 2 Ashes series as well. So stats are the basis of your argument?

Stats also show he is the only Australian skipper to lose 3 Ashes series.

regards,

REB

[Q.]

Wasn't my favourite, but was one of the best I'll ever get to see. Got tingles as he left the field for the last time. Well done Punter

[RustyCage]