SMA - the lies now start to surface

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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:02 pm

Plus $300 saca membership joining fee if you want an associate pass :-)
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby gossipgirl » Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:55 pm

Hard to believe its so cheap. I suspect prices will go up dramatically in a couple of years time.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:52 am

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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby whufc » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:02 am

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Mmmmmmmm....... Was always gonna happen there will be a few people walking around with rise coloured glasses feeling a tad silly at the moment

Say you split the 6000 expected loses in half 3000 crows 3000 power that's a loss of around $10k each, I didn't think either club is in a position to throw away 10k
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Ecky » Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:20 am

It shouldn't be an issue as I honestly can't see who would possibly want an Ultimate Membership.

The only way it is value is for people who go to all Port, Crows and Cricket games. How many would currently do that? Maybe 100 people??? (the Baymans of the AFL and cricket world :lol: ) But even they would be turned off by the money going to the SMA and not to their AFL club(s).

The only people who will buy them are the upper class to whom money isn't an issue and are conned into thinking that it is some sort of prestigious club.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Dutchy » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:59 am

Lies and mis-truths...a few of us could see this happening. Others voted YES.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby whufc » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:15 pm

Dutchy wrote:Lies and mis-truths...a few of us could see this happening. Others voted YES.


That's half the issue do u know anyone who did vote yes I dont
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Booney » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:17 pm

Ecky wrote:It shouldn't be an issue as I honestly can't see who would possibly want an Ultimate Membership.

The only way it is value is for people who go to all Port, Crows and Cricket games. How many would currently do that? Maybe 100 people??? (the Baymans of the AFL and cricket world :lol: ) But even they would be turned off by the money going to the SMA and not to their AFL club(s).

The only people who will buy them are the upper class to whom money isn't an issue and are conned into thinking that it is some sort of prestigious club.


Absolutely agree. Which begs the question - The state is spending over $600m on this development, why not charge more to be an ultimate member?
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Footy Smart » Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:19 pm

whufc wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Lies and mis-truths...a few of us could see this happening. Others voted YES.


That's half the issue do u know anyone who did vote yes I dont


I do, I know a fair few. 99% port supporters who were purely looking at the survival of their club
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby daysofourlives » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:24 pm

Does anyone know if there is going to be a cricket membership linked with one of the footy clubs (not both) and if that would be transferrable?
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Ecky » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:12 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Does anyone know if there is going to be a cricket membership linked with one of the footy clubs (not both) and if that would be transferrable?

If there is I doubt they will admit it until after this notso-Ultimate Membership registration period closes as they want to get as many $75 joining fees as possible!
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby lutz » Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:08 am

Ecky wrote:It shouldn't be an issue as I honestly can't see who would possibly want an Ultimate Membership.

The only way it is value is for people who go to all Port, Crows and Cricket games. How many would currently do that? Maybe 100 people??? (the Baymans of the AFL and cricket world :lol: ) But even they would be turned off by the money going to the SMA and not to their AFL club(s).

The only people who will buy them are the upper class to whom money isn't an issue and are conned into thinking that it is some sort of prestigious club.


I woulda thought a few people would get this membership. The cricket only membership offered by Adelaide Oval is expensive enough (I don't know the exact amount), but that's not really great value either, but they still sell out every season. If I was a member at Adelaide Oval previously, I would probably upgrade to the ultimate package. Hopefully I can afford one in a couple of years haha.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby MAY-Z » Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:43 am

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Ecky wrote:It shouldn't be an issue as I honestly can't see who would possibly want an Ultimate Membership.

The only way it is value is for people who go to all Port, Crows and Cricket games. How many would currently do that? Maybe 100 people??? (the Baymans of the AFL and cricket world :lol: ) But even they would be turned off by the money going to the SMA and not to their AFL club(s).

The only people who will buy them are the upper class to whom money isn't an issue and are conned into thinking that it is some sort of prestigious club.


I woulda thought a few people would get this membership. The cricket only membership offered by Adelaide Oval is expensive enough (I don't know the exact amount), but that's not really great value either, but they still sell out every season. If I was a member at Adelaide Oval previously, I would probably upgrade to the ultimate package. Hopefully I can afford one in a couple of years haha.


but unless you are a crows and power fan it will cost more than buying a saca + one of the football teams

and if you buy an ultimate for football you lose privalleges of your club football membership such as finals tickets preferences and guaranteed grand final tickets as per the gold class tickets
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:07 am

The infighting about $$$$ between SMA and SANFL/AFL clubs has started already.

For $800 I get to catch a train to the stadium, no bbqs , no saved seat, no access to finals , my money doesn't go to the club, I can't share my ticket with my mate who is a power supporter like I have for the past 15 years.

I can't even take my wife to football and then take my mate to cricket as tickets are non transferable .

And as we know all crows/power supporters need is one excuse and they will stop attending.

Now PAFC who are struggling to get sponsors now has only 29000 members as opposed to 35000. 15% drop off in its membership base.

This has got imminent disaster written all over it.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Jimmy_041 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:54 pm

I read the offer document last night - no expense spared by the looks of it (the brochure)
I really wonder how many people are going to want to go to all footy and cricket matches.
But, you get first dibs on tickets to other events - whoopee
I cant wait to see the take up rate.

Also, $150,000 pa for a corporate box :shock:
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:05 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:I read the offer document last night - no expense spared by the looks of it (the brochure)
I really wonder how many people are going to want to go to all footy and cricket matches.
But, you get first dibs on tickets to other events - whoopee
I cant wait to see the take up rate.

Also, $150,000 pa for a corporate box :shock:


Yeah but the novelty factor especially in the first year will have alot considering it.

Plus it's still pretty good value for someone who is planning on going to all of one AFL teams home matches plus an away showdown and all days of the test match and one one dayer which isn't an unrealistic amount for a mad sports fan especially with the ashes coming up.
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Booney » Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:58 pm

Jimmy_041 wrote:I read the offer document last night - no expense spared by the looks of it (the brochure)
I really wonder how many people are going to want to go to all footy and cricket matches.
But, you get first dibs on tickets to other events - whoopee
I cant wait to see the take up rate.

Also, $150,000 pa for a corporate box :shock:


I believe there are 12,200 Ultimate Memberships on offer, correct? ( Please correct me if I am wrong )

I simply fail to see 12,200 people taking up this offer and using it to the full capacity it offers.

It really is looking like a disaster before it even gets close to being completed....
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby Ecky » Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:30 pm

Booney wrote:
I believe there are 12,200 Ultimate Memberships on offer, correct? ( Please correct me if I am wrong )

I simply fail to see 12,200 people taking up this offer and using it to the full capacity it offers.

It really is looking like a disaster before it even gets close to being completed....

Correct,

BUT, the SMA propaganda machine somehow convinced over 80% of the SACA members to vote yes to a proposal that was also full of lies and distortions of the truth. So they may be able to convince them this time too - remember it is the same crowd they are targeting.

In which case they won't care if most of them don't turn up, in fact that would be part of their strategy, to oversubscribe the members and sell as many tickets as possible and reinvest the money on more and more dodgy glossy brochures to suck them in again the following year :lol:
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby lutz » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:51 pm

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Ecky wrote:It shouldn't be an issue as I honestly can't see who would possibly want an Ultimate Membership.

The only way it is value is for people who go to all Port, Crows and Cricket games. How many would currently do that? Maybe 100 people??? (the Baymans of the AFL and cricket world :lol: ) But even they would be turned off by the money going to the SMA and not to their AFL club(s).

The only people who will buy them are the upper class to whom money isn't an issue and are conned into thinking that it is some sort of prestigious club.


I woulda thought a few people would get this membership. The cricket only membership offered by Adelaide Oval is expensive enough (I don't know the exact amount), but that's not really great value either, but they still sell out every season. If I was a member at Adelaide Oval previously, I would probably upgrade to the ultimate package. Hopefully I can afford one in a couple of years haha.

and if you buy an ultimate for football you lose privalleges of your club football membership such as finals tickets preferences and guaranteed grand final tickets as per the gold class tickets


Ok I see, yea that changes it a bit.
but unless you are a crows and power fan it will cost more than buying a saca + one of the football teams
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Re: SMA - the lies now start to surface

Postby UK Fan » Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:24 am

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