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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby brod » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:52 pm

Jim05 wrote:There was a Bangladesh fella who gave a warning to a Paki in a test match. The Pakis were 9 down and Bangladesh would have won the test but he only warned him. That was early to mid 2000's cant recall one since


Courtney Walsh of the West Indies famously refused to mankad last man Saleem Jaffar of Pakistan for backing up too far in a group match in the 1987 World Cup, but let him off with a warning. Pakistan went on to win the match while the defeat cost the West Indies a place in the semi-final.
The same thing was repeated in a 2003 Test match in Multan between Bangladesh and Pakistan. Pakistan eventually won the Test match by just 1 wicket. Mohammad Rafique of Bangladesh did not run out Umar Gul of Pakistan. If Rafique had broken the wicket Bangladesh would have had a famous Test victory.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby brod » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:56 pm

Points: Played: net RR
14 from 5: +.433 Australia
11 from 5: +.481 Sri Lanka
10 from 6: -.733 India
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby mal » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:24 am

Mankading should be legal, batsman are in effect cheating
They can get batters out in baseball if base runners are creepers

Also, I seriously didnt even know this game between SL + IN was being played
15 ODI games in this series and a lack of televising by C9 has waned my interest
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:56 am

Sri Lanka are hitting good form after a slow start to series. They are a decent side, cant believe so many people wrote them off at start of series. They will play Australia in the finals
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Dogmatic » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:30 am

There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:50 am

Dogmatic wrote:There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.

I dont think that is the answer, plenty of batsman bat out of their crease which is in effect a short run. The differance is the batter on strike can be stumped.
I think the solution is to get the ICC cone out and support the Mankad and make it fully legal with no warnings. To many the Mankad is still seen as being not within the spirit of the game, the ICC need to change the views on it.
No warnings, no asking opposition captains. Just instruct players and umpires that it is out. After a few dismissals im sure players will get the message and stop trying to cheat
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Red Rocket » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:01 am

Its cheating pure and simple.
Allow the Mankad, no warnings either
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Dogmatic » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:18 am

Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.

I dont think that is the answer, plenty of batsman bat out of their crease which is in effect a short run. The differance is the batter on strike can be stumped.
I think the solution is to get the ICC cone out and support the Mankad and make it fully legal with no warnings. To many the Mankad is still seen as being not within the spirit of the game, the ICC need to change the views on it.
No warnings, no asking opposition captains. Just instruct players and umpires that it is out. After a few dismissals im sure players will get the message and stop trying to cheat

I don't think the batsmen on strike can get out by a mankad. I was talking about the non striker.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby wycbloods » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:21 am

Dogmatic wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.

I dont think that is the answer, plenty of batsman bat out of their crease which is in effect a short run. The differance is the batter on strike can be stumped.
I think the solution is to get the ICC cone out and support the Mankad and make it fully legal with no warnings. To many the Mankad is still seen as being not within the spirit of the game, the ICC need to change the views on it.
No warnings, no asking opposition captains. Just instruct players and umpires that it is out. After a few dismissals im sure players will get the message and stop trying to cheat

I don't think the batsmen on strike can get out by a mankad. I was talking about the non striker.


They can't and as Jim said the batsmen on strike can be stumped.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:33 am

Dogmatic wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.

I dont think that is the answer, plenty of batsman bat out of their crease which is in effect a short run. The differance is the batter on strike can be stumped.
I think the solution is to get the ICC cone out and support the Mankad and make it fully legal with no warnings. To many the Mankad is still seen as being not within the spirit of the game, the ICC need to change the views on it.
No warnings, no asking opposition captains. Just instruct players and umpires that it is out. After a few dismissals im sure players will get the message and stop trying to cheat

I don't think the batsmen on strike can get out by a mankad. I was talking about the non striker.

I Know but if you called "one short" then there would be plenty of short runs each match because technically a batter batting out of his crease is taking a short run every time. The batter on strike risks being stumped so why cant the non striker be run out
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Grahaml » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:33 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
Dogmatic wrote:There is an easy solution to mankads and batsmen leaving the crease before the bowler has released the ball. The umpire should call a short run.

I dont think that is the answer, plenty of batsman bat out of their crease which is in effect a short run. The differance is the batter on strike can be stumped.
I think the solution is to get the ICC cone out and support the Mankad and make it fully legal with no warnings. To many the Mankad is still seen as being not within the spirit of the game, the ICC need to change the views on it.
No warnings, no asking opposition captains. Just instruct players and umpires that it is out. After a few dismissals im sure players will get the message and stop trying to cheat

I don't think the batsmen on strike can get out by a mankad. I was talking about the non striker.

I Know but if you called "one short" then there would be plenty of short runs each match because technically a batter batting out of his crease is taking a short run every time. The batter on strike risks being stumped so why cant the non striker be run out


Would be impossible to police. At what point is it to be called short? And is the umpire now suddenly to watch the bowler for no balls AND the non striker for leaving too early at the same time? The problem was after he got let off (India's fault for withdrawing the appeal) he kept doing it and India let it happen. I do agree with the writer that the umpire shouldn't have interfered by asking all and sundry whether it was a legitimate appeal. If there's any appeal he makes a decision. It's then up to the captain to withdraw the appeal and recall the batsman.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby MAY-Z » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:13 pm

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealt ... 54716.html

this is quite a good article, i think the appeal should have stood
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Media Park » Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:00 pm

Article in the paper today saying it (trying to run the guy out) was pathetic and against the spirit of cricket.

No-one's name against the article though.
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Jim05 » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 pm

Media Park wrote:Article in the paper today saying it (trying to run the guy out) was pathetic and against the spirit of cricket.

No-one's name against the article though.

Crap article.
Being a cheat and sneaking 3 foot down the pitch is more against the spirit of cricket IMO
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Media Park » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:10 pm

I agree with you and the rest of this site Jim (and most of our country). Just showing that not everyone feels the same...
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Media Park » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:16 am

Question, can our boy Dan Christian fit in the same team as Shane Watson?
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Jim05 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:11 pm

Media Park wrote:Question, can our boy Dan Christian fit in the same team as Shane Watson?

Dont think so.
Where is Watto batting?
Wouldnt mind Warner and Wade to continue together and bat Watto at 3
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Brodlach » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:26 pm

Watson 12th man :shock:

Australia: David Warner, Matthew Wade (wk), Peter Forrest, Michael Clarke (c), Michael Hussey, David Hussey, Daniel Christian, Brett Lee, Ryan Harris, Xavier Doherty, Ben Hilfenhaus, Shane Watson (12th)

Sri Lanka: Mahela Jayawardene (c), Tillakaratne Dilshan, Kumar Sangakkara (wk), Dinesh Chandimal, Lahiru Thirimanne, Angelo Mathews, Farveez Maharoof, Thisara Perera, Nuwan Kulasekara, Rangana Herath, Lasith Malinga, Sachithra Senanayake (12th)
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Re: Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby Johno6 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:34 pm

I thought they said earlier in the week on fox news or maybe on here i dunno, that watson wouldnt play todays game but will 100% play the next game?

id just do straight swap forrest for watson next game also
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Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

Postby the joker » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:36 pm

I think the selectors said that Watto will have one more game off and come back on sunday
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