2nd Ashes Test v England @ Lords, the home of MCC/Cricket

[dedja]

OK cennals, give us a weather report for tomorrow ...

[CoverKing]

That is my exact thought. Yes mitch has bowled crap, but he is still taking wickets, which is a great sign! IF he starts bowling well against the poms, he will have a field day IMO.

5/313 when abd light stops play. clarke 125* and haddin 80*

Great partnership. Great little fightback. Can we score 209 on the last day with 5 wickets in hand against a newish ball aswell?

Our tail has a good record of wagging, mitch to make a 35, hauritz with 20 siddle with 10 and hilf 5. Therefore these two need to put on another 139 for us to win.

A bit optimistic? So may say so, but if Australia are batting to win a game, our fighting spirit should shine through.

There poms are going to have a sleepless nigh, they will be s***ing themselves.

And nice call about Bopara, possibly Man of the series for Australia?

[dedja]

Now not that I'm complaining, but why install lights at the ground and turn them on when its starting to get dark and the umps offer the light to the batsmen???

If we're not going to play under lights for the Tests with a red ball then state that upfront.

Is it just me (with little sleep at 3:05am) or does this make no sense?

[dedja]

Look the Aussies can win but an early wicket or 2 tomorrow will be the nail in the coffin.

[cennals05]

OK cennals, give us a weather report for tomorrow ...

According to the Met Office, there is going to be rain from lunchtime onwards. Have to wait and see because their forecast for today hardly eventuated.

[dedja]

OK cennals, give us a weather report for tomorrow ...

According to the Met Office, there is going to be rain from lunchtime onwards. Have to wait and see because their forecast for today hardly eventuated.

Cheers.

Well that may add to the intrigue tomorrow ...

Can the Poms get quick wickets?
Can the Aussies hang on?
Do the Aussies or the Poms want it to rain?

Apparently they haven't officially called stumps today but that's it for me, I'm going to hit the fart sack.

Back for the finale tomorrow.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Now not that I'm complaining, but why install lights at the ground and turn them on when its starting to get dark and the umps offer the light to the batsmen???

If we're not going to play under lights for the Tests with a red ball then state that upfront.

Is it just me (with little sleep at 3:05am) or does this make no sense?

Someone was talking about this a couple of nights ago. Apparently the red ball under lights creates shadows on the ball which makes it hard to see, so it's inevitable the players would have to come off not long after the lights are deployed. All the lights do with the red ball is keep them out there for a few more overs.

Obviously the lights are there because they play night cricket with a white ball which apparently is a lot easier to see once the lights come on. I've never played cricket under lights so I can only take their word for it.

[Dirko]

That sound right AH, similar reasons as to why they don't use the Red Burley to play night footy....

[MAY-Z]

Where were his fingers. Anyone who honestly thinks Strauss did not think it was a clean catch has as about as much idea as the guy who started the " Hawthorn are overated" thread last year.

The same Strauss who claimed there was confusion when he sent the 12th man out twice and the physio as well because he thought Anderson spilt a drink on his gloves or that he thought one of the batsmen needed the fat f*cks help? Strauss is a dirty cheating piece of crap.

If Strauss genuinely thought that was a clean catch he needs to lay off whatever drugs he's been taking far too much of.

TIME WASTING
India did it in AU last series
England did it this series
And Im thinking that AU will do the same if 9 down in the future ?????????????????????????????
Did STRAUSS cheat ??? YES more than NO
Did STRAUSS show bad sportsmanship YES

As for that catch
Im still not convinced he cheated at the time
Im sure during the lunch break when he saw the replay he would be feeling very uneasy
Strauss might get a short term victory in this Test
But the long term ramifications could be haunting for some time to come
Im sure if Greg Dyer is watching he would know what Strauss is up for

STRAUSS CHEAT ????
BAD SPORTSMAN YES

i think strauss' was a clean catch, as was that of hauritz. i havent botehred reading the previous posts so i dont know how everyone has reacted. hughes was happy to walk off until ponting stuck his oar in and told him to stay, for mine hughes wouldve had a perfect view of the ball from where he was. it is getting to the stage where we will either have to change a rule to say the half-vollies are out or unless it is caught above the ankles it is not out becuase no players / observers are ever getting a balnced view and with the camera hardly ever being able to produce conclusive answers all that happens is we get slanderous accusations every time a low catch is taken.

as for the time wasting in the last test if australia were that botehred about getting overs in how about they bowled at quicker than 12-13 overs for the preceeding hours as the last hour on the last wouldnt start until an hour before the scheduled close.

as for the katich dismissal i didnt see that but it appears to have been a no-ball, katich is unlucky as all through the test there have been no-balls not called, hilfy bowled a few but luckily england didnt get out of any of them so there wasnt a real issue.

hussey's looked and sounded out and when they showed strauss' and hussey's dismissals straight afetr each other tehy looked and sounded exactly the same so its easy to understand why the decision was made.

[Dirko]

i think strauss' was a clean catch
the katich dismissal i didnt see that but it appears to have been a no-ball
hussey's looked and sounded out

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25807226-5009880,00.html

Here you go May-Z. No way was Strauss a clean catch, Kat was a no ball, and Hussey didn't hit it !

[MAY-Z]

i think strauss' was a clean catch
the katich dismissal i didnt see that but it appears to have been a no-ball
hussey's looked and sounded out

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,25807226-5009880,00.html

Here you go May-Z. No way was Strauss a clean catch, Kat was a no ball, and Hussey didn't hit it !

strauss' was a clean catch - you can never go off a replay for deciding the legitamcy of a catch. every catch looks like it bounces on replay due to camera foreshortening. during a sri lanka series a few years ago they did some experiments by placing balls in hands and the getting the camera to view them and they all looked to be bouncing from teh long lensed cameras

yep katc was a no-ball but it wasnt teh only no-ball that went uncalled for the game so he is just unlucky.

watching husseys dismissal live i would suggest everyone wouldve thought it was out

[Dutchy]

I agree May-Z, everyone is carrying on like it was a half volley - he actually had most of his fingers underneath it, he got more of the ball than what hit the ground and I think thats fair enough, you are always going to have similar ones....if it had clearly bounced before acceptance then we would have cause to complain but it didnt....

Has Rod Rooster found his dummy yet?

Aussies will win from here....

[rod_rooster]

Where were his fingers. Anyone who honestly thinks Strauss did not think it was a clean catch has as about as much idea as the guy who started the " Hawthorn are overated" thread last year.

The same Strauss who claimed there was confusion when he sent the 12th man out twice and the physio as well because he thought Anderson spilt a drink on his gloves or that he thought one of the batsmen needed the fat f*cks help? Strauss is a dirty cheating piece of crap.

If Strauss genuinely thought that was a clean catch he needs to lay off whatever drugs he's been taking far too much of.

TIME WASTING
India did it in AU last series
England did it this series
And Im thinking that AU will do the same if 9 down in the future ?????????????????????????????
Did STRAUSS cheat ??? YES more than NO
Did STRAUSS show bad sportsmanship YES

As for that catch
Im still not convinced he cheated at the time
Im sure during the lunch break when he saw the replay he would be feeling very uneasy
Strauss might get a short term victory in this Test
But the long term ramifications could be haunting for some time to come
Im sure if Greg Dyer is watching he would know what Strauss is up for

STRAUSS CHEAT ????
BAD SPORTSMAN YES

i think strauss' was a clean catch, as was that of hauritz. i havent botehred reading the previous posts so i dont know how everyone has reacted. hughes was happy to walk off until ponting stuck his oar in and told him to stay, for mine hughes wouldve had a perfect view of the ball from where he was. it is getting to the stage where we will either have to change a rule to say the half-vollies are out or unless it is caught above the ankles it is not out becuase no players / observers are ever getting a balnced view and with the camera hardly ever being able to produce conclusive answers all that happens is we get slanderous accusations every time a low catch is taken.

as for the time wasting in the last test if australia were that botehred about getting overs in how about they bowled at quicker than 12-13 overs for the preceeding hours as the last hour on the last wouldnt start until an hour before the scheduled close.

as for the katich dismissal i didnt see that but it appears to have been a no-ball, katich is unlucky as all through the test there have been no-balls not called, hilfy bowled a few but luckily england didnt get out of any of them so there wasnt a real issue.

hussey's looked and sounded out and when they showed strauss' and hussey's dismissals straight afetr each other tehy looked and sounded exactly the same so its easy to understand why the decision was made.

Are you for real? If you think Hussey's looked or sounded out you need a medical check up and in a real hurry. When the ball misses the bat by that much i can't see how it could ever look or sound out

Strauss didn't even get close to catching Hughes. That was outright cheating because he would've know perfectly well he didn't catch it.

[wycbloods]

I agree May-Z, everyone is carrying on like it was a half volley - he actually had most of his fingers underneath it, he got more of the ball than what hit the ground and I think thats fair enough, you are always going to have similar ones....if it had clearly bounced before acceptance then we would have cause to complain but it didnt....

Has Rod Rooster found his dummy yet?

Aussies will win from here....

I think that is fine Dutchy if that theory is applied consistently and IMO it hasn't been. If it had of been referred, as Hauritz's was, then i don't think he would've given it out.

[Dirko]

I agree May-Z, everyone is carrying on like it was a half volley - he actually had most of his fingers underneath it, he got more of the ball than what hit the ground and I think thats fair enough, you are always going to have similar ones....if it had clearly bounced before acceptance then we would have cause to complain but it didnt....

Has Rod Rooster found his dummy yet?

Aussies will win from here....

I think that is fine Dutchy if that theory is applied consistently and IMO it hasn't been. If it had of been referred, as Hauritz's was, then i don't think he would've given it out.

Exactly wyc, and that's why the decision stinks.....

[rod_rooster]

I agree May-Z, everyone is carrying on like it was a half volley - he actually had most of his fingers underneath it, he got more of the ball than what hit the ground and I think thats fair enough, you are always going to have similar ones....if it had clearly bounced before acceptance then we would have cause to complain but it didnt....

Has Rod Rooster found his dummy yet?

Aussies will win from here....

Should be easy to find my dummy. I'll just critisise the North Melbourne Football Club and then follow you whilst you go after yours

[mal]

STUMPS DAY4
AU 5/313
KAT NOT OUT 6
SCARDY CAT NOT OUT 17
HUSSEY NOT OUT 27
CLARKE NOT OUT 125
BEST RIGHT HAND BATTING KEEPER FOR AUSTRALIA 80 NOT OUT

HIGHEST TEST CRICKET CHASES AT LORDS
3/329 AU 1975
1/344 WI 1984
397 INDIA 2002
5/313 AU current game

209 for the impossible dream win and we would all be '''''''OVER THE MOON''''
We need some ''''strong arm ''''' tactics
keep attacking the bowlers keep the pressure on them
cause the biggest upset since rocky v '''APOLLO'''

Another few overs lost when bad light stopped play
__________________________________________________________________________
I have the solution to bad light stopping play AGAIN in England
Its a solution that has taken me about 1 second to work out
I should patent the idea but being a cricket buff will offer my solution for nothing
START THE TEST MATCHES IN ENGLAND 30 MINUTES EARLY
__________________________________________________________________________


As for the Manou fan club
HADDIN at this point in time in this series averages over 100 with the bat
He can be sloppy with the gloves, the byes he concedes are insignificant compared to the runs he makes
He just needs to hold his catches
When he does he must be considered the equal of Adam Gilchrist

[MAY-Z]

I agree May-Z, everyone is carrying on like it was a half volley - he actually had most of his fingers underneath it, he got more of the ball than what hit the ground and I think thats fair enough, you are always going to have similar ones....if it had clearly bounced before acceptance then we would have cause to complain but it didnt....

Has Rod Rooster found his dummy yet?

Aussies will win from here....

I think that is fine Dutchy if that theory is applied consistently and IMO it hasn't been. If it had of been referred, as Hauritz's was, then i don't think he would've given it out.

i trhink that is where the problem is i think both were probably out

just thinking on a bit of a comparitve type issue. the lbw law not is interpreted as half of the ball must pitch in line on the hawk-eye summary to be classed as pitchinh in line, maybe if they are going to continue to use videos for catches a similar stance could perhaps be taken whereby the whole of the ball must be seen to be hitting the ground as i believe teh vast majority of catches that get turned down by the third umpire are genuine cataches but look like there is a slight portion of teh ball bouncing

[rod_rooster]

STUMPS DAY4
AU 5/313
KAT NOT OUT 6
SCARDY CAT NOT OUT 17
HUSSEY NOT OUT 27
CLARKE NOT OUT 125
BEST RIGHT HAND BATTING KEEPER FOR AUSTRALIA 80 NOT OUT

HIGHEST TEST CRICKET CHASES AT LORDS
3/329 AU 1975
1/344 WI 1984
397 INDIA 2002
5/313 AU current game

209 for the impossible dream win and we would all be '''''''OVER THE MOON''''
We need some ''''strong arm ''''' tactics
keep attacking the bowlers keep the pressure on them
cause the biggest upset since rocky v '''APOLLO'''

Another few overs lost when bad light stopped play
__________________________________________________________________________
I have the solution to bad light stopping play AGAIN in England
Its a solution that has taken me about 1 second to work out
I should patent the idea but being a cricket buff will offer my solution for nothing
START THE TEST MATCHES IN ENGLAND 30 MINUTES EARLY
__________________________________________________________________________


As for the Manou fan club
HADDIN at this point in time in this series averages over 100 with the bat
He can be sloppy with the gloves, the byes he concedes are insignificant compared to the runs he makes
He just needs to hold his catches
When he does he must be considered the equal of Adam Gilchrist

LMAO

[am Bays]

Can we dare to dream???

Sh!t wouldn't it be magnificent, need one fo these two to make another 100 and the rest to bat around him.

The longer these two can bat for tonight the more the POMs will get nervous and start thinking of saving the game rather than winning it....

IF (big word) these two can be there at lunch.....