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Postby matt » Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:38 am

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Then he was offered the captaincy if he transfered to Universtiy. I would have liked to have seen him stay at Sturt and work through the problem, but he decided to play for University. I consider this to be a soft option for Nathan which didn't improve his cricket at a time when the state selectors were watching him closely.
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Good write up A/H.

Need to point out that one of the reasons he moved to the AUCC is that Sturt is a club of nuff-nuffs. ;) The recent avalanche of players from Sturt to Uni has been phenomenal and further proves this!

Anyhoo, I saw his hundered v Sturt/Tait/Bailey earlier in the season. He looked in imperious form that day.
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Postby Max » Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:35 am

It would be interesting to create a list of ex-Sturt players that have gone on to bigger and better things at other clubs. Would make a pretty impressive list. Not sure this is the forum for it though...

I could start with...

Adcock (Uni)
King (Uni)
Maraun (Adelaide)
Marsh (Port)

Any others spring to mind?
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Postby heater31 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:00 pm

Max wrote:It would be interesting to create a list of ex-Sturt players that have gone on to bigger and better things at other clubs. Would make a pretty impressive list. Not sure this is the forum for it though...

I could start with...

Adcock (Uni)
King (Uni)
Maraun (Adelaide)
Marsh (Port)

Any others spring to mind?


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Postby Max » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:26 pm

Ritossa (West Torrens?)
Bevan (Southerns)

Not sure about Ben Johnson. Wasn't he always at Adelaide?
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Postby heater31 » Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:36 pm

Max wrote:Ritossa (West Torrens?)
Bevan (Southerns)

Not sure about Ben Johnson. Wasn't he always at Adelaide?



only played juniors but they still were not happy about him leaving
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:08 pm

Max wrote:Ritossa (West Torrens?)
Bevan (Southerns)

Not sure about Ben Johnson. Wasn't he always at Adelaide?


Sturt junior "stolen" by Adelaide.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:12 pm

Max wrote:It would be interesting to create a list of ex-Sturt players that have gone on to bigger and better things at other clubs. Would make a pretty impressive list. Not sure this is the forum for it though...

I could start with...

Adcock (Uni)
King (Uni)
Maraun (Adelaide)
Marsh (Port)

Any others spring to mind?


I hardly think King has moved on "bigger and better". He was a state 2nd XI bowler at Sturt.

Stiffy Harden has done well at Prospect. He was in the same boat as Maraun, too many pace bowlers at Sturt at the time. Jaime Marsh went to Port because Evan Arnold was the leggie with Sturt.

I guess you could also add Blocker Wilson to the list. Went to University after a season with Sturt. I really don't know how University would have survived without the Sturt District Cricket Club to recruit from.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:14 pm

Max wrote:Ritossa (West Torrens?)
Bevan (Southerns)

Not sure about Ben Johnson. Wasn't he always at Adelaide?


You couldn't say Ritossa went onto bigger and better things. He played his best cricket at Sturt.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:26 pm

matt wrote:

Need to point out that one of the reasons he moved to the AUCC is that Sturt is a club of nuff-nuffs. ;) The recent avalanche of players from Sturt to Uni has been phenomenal and further proves this!
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And I just need to point out that most of the players who went to University from Sturt weren't good enough to make the Sturt team at the time. Even Nathan Adcock fits that bill. He was playing in the Sturt 2nds before being offered the captaincy at University.

Matthew King got his nose out of joint because Sturt had Matthew Thomas and a young bloke named Shaun Tait taking the new ball. King went to Uni because they guaranteed him the new ball. Another one who took the easy option.

Chris Slattery was playing C grade at Sturt because he never applied himself at practice. He would hardly ever bowl when asked, and quite often mysteriously "disappeared" after having a hit.

There was another player named Johnson who played as a batsman for Sturt. He went to Uni and bowled 1st change. There was an article in the paper about him. He said he was never given a bowl at Sturt. Hardly surprising because he never wanted a bowl at practice, so we didn't know he COULD bowl.

Guys like Patton, Cunningham, etc were all good players but didn't last long with University anyway.

These guys were all products of the Sturt JUNIOR development system .. something University would know nothing about. I also want to point out that Sturt won the 2005-06 premiership, despite this "avalanche" of talent to the Univeristy club. Hardly proves anything.

Sturt are a club who tries to prepare cricketers for 1st class cricket. University is a social club, and one of the reasons SACA cricket is in decay.
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Postby rod_rooster » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:32 pm

Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Matthew King got his nose out of joint because Sturt had Matthew Thomas and a young bloke named Shaun Tait taking the new ball. King went to Uni because they guaranteed him the new ball.


You mean Oliver Thomas don't you AH? Matt is Oli's brother who as far as i'm aware has never played A grade. He's played most of his cricket in Adelaide Turf and still is now.
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:34 pm

rod_rooster wrote:
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
Matthew King got his nose out of joint because Sturt had Matthew Thomas and a young bloke named Shaun Tait taking the new ball. King went to Uni because they guaranteed him the new ball.


You mean Oliver Thomas don't you AH? Matt is Oli's brother who as far as i'm aware has never played A grade. He's played most of his cricket in Adelaide Turf and still is now.


Yes, I did mean Oliver Thomas :) Too many Thomas boys around these days.
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Postby Max » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:47 pm

I still think that Sturt has a high proportion of players that leave simply because they are not valued by the club. Perhaps 'bigger and better' is not always the best description - but more opportunities at 'A-Grade' level certainly fits the bill.

And, while Sturt has won one recent premiership, they hardly set the world on fire during most of the period they lost these players.

A couple more...

Buckey (Prospect)
Rayner (Kensington)

Very good point about Uni not helping with junior development though. Perhaps a merger of the 'social' Uni and the 'junior developing' Sturt is on the cards!!!
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Postby Aerie » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:48 pm

What's happened to Sturt this year? 10th in A Grade and sitting 9th in the Club Championship?
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Postby Aerie » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:50 pm

Max wrote:Very good point about Uni not helping with junior development though. Perhaps a merger of the 'social' Uni and the 'junior developing' Sturt is on the cards!!!


The Uni Blues ... I like it! Gets rid of the bye!
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Postby rod_rooster » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:54 pm

Max wrote:I still think that Sturt has a high proportion of players that leave simply because they are not valued by the club. Perhaps 'bigger and better' is not always the best description - but more opportunities at 'A-Grade' level certainly fits the bill.

And, while Sturt has won one recent premiership, they hardly set the world on fire during most of the period they lost these players.

A couple more...

Buckey (Prospect)
Rayner (Kensington)

Very good point about Uni not helping with junior development though. Perhaps a merger of the 'social' Uni and the 'junior developing' Sturt is on the cards!!!


Rayner went to Kensington from PAOCCC. He went back to district cricket after taking 52 wickets for PAOCCC and then being offered an oppourtunity by Kensington. Back with PAOCCC now.
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Postby Max » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:59 pm

Yep - but Rayner still started at Sturt before PAOCCC, and they didn't play him higher than D-grade
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Postby rod_rooster » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:01 pm

Max wrote:Yep - but Rayner still started at Sturt before PAOCCC, and they didn't play him higher than D-grade


Yeah, my point was though that he didn't leave Sturt to go to Kensington. Left because he preferred to play with PAOCCC than D grade for Sturt. I guess it makes your point regarding lack of opportunities.
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Postby matt » Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:40 pm

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And I just need to point out that most of the players who went to University from Sturt weren't good enough to make the Sturt team at the time. Even Nathan Adcock fits that bill. He was playing in the Sturt 2nds before being offered the captaincy at University.

Matthew King got his nose out of joint because Sturt had Matthew Thomas and a young bloke named Shaun Tait taking the new ball. King went to Uni because they guaranteed him the new ball. Another one who took the easy option.

Chris Slattery was playing C grade at Sturt because he never applied himself at practice. He would hardly ever bowl when asked, and quite often mysteriously "disappeared" after having a hit.

There was another player named Johnson who played as a batsman for Sturt. He went to Uni and bowled 1st change. There was an article in the paper about him. He said he was never given a bowl at Sturt. Hardly surprising because he never wanted a bowl at practice, so we didn't know he COULD bowl.

Guys like Patton, Cunningham, etc were all good players but didn't last long with University anyway.

These guys were all products of the Sturt JUNIOR development system .. something University would know nothing about. I also want to point out that Sturt won the 2005-06 premiership, despite this "avalanche" of talent to the Univeristy club. Hardly proves anything.

Sturt are a club who tries to prepare cricketers for 1st class cricket. University is a social club, and one of the reasons SACA cricket is in decay.[/quote]





Would you like Slats back? Seems to be travelling aok at the moment.

Seems funny that they weren't able to prosper at Sturt but did aok at Uni.

You need to look further afar than the AUCC. Consistent finalists over the last 15 years with 3 A-grade flags to boot. Club Champiosnhip in 01/02.

I have always, and will continue to, get great satisfaction in beating Sturt on the cricket field. Not hard to guess why.
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Postby stampy » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:12 pm

well i am back from the west and may i say i was embarrassed to say i was from sa and follow the cricket, i went to the one dayer and saw adcock bat beautifully he deserved a ton, as for the rest of our batsmen the less said the better, we had them struggling at 4/48 but the turning point came when dizzy dropped a dolly at backward point off pomersbasch or whatever his name is, i left thinking what might have been, but we would get revenge in the 4 dayer which i had planned to go on sunday (day 3) with the brother inlaw BUT WE COULDNT MAKE IT INTO DAY 3 WTF!!!!!!!! an utterly disgraceful batting exhibition. I am a proud croweater but it wasnt any fun being in perth last weekend i can tell you by the way adelaide oval shits all over the waca biased mayber but true
Go The Tiges!!!
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Postby Adelaide Hawk » Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:52 pm

matt wrote:Would you like Slats back? Seems to be travelling aok at the moment.

Seems funny that they weren't able to prosper at Sturt but did aok at Uni.

You need to look further afar than the AUCC. Consistent finalists over the last 15 years with 3 A-grade flags to boot. Club Champiosnhip in 01/02.

I have always, and will continue to, get great satisfaction in beating Sturt on the cricket field. Not hard to guess why.


Who exactly are you inferring has prospered at Uni? Adcock hasn't done any better than his early days at Sturt. Players such as King have gone backwards, as have most other who have taken the easy option of a guaranteed spot at Uni rather than working for a spot at Sturt.

Let's talk about University shall we? Since their 1992-93 premiership (the first in 70 years), they have missed the finals no less than 7 times. Consistent finalists? I don't think so. And in the 30 years prior to that, they never made the finals ONCE. Still, not bad for a social club. It's an ideal environment for Slattery. He doesn't have to work very hard, and that's his forte.

I've never particularly enjoyed beating University, because you don't feel as though you've beaten anyone. Enjoy the few years University have left, because hopefully one day soon, the SACA will realise that Uni have contributed nothing to SA cricket and boot them out of the competition.
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