Australia/India/Sri Lanka ODI Series

[Grahaml]

Mankad I think it's called. It's when the bowler runs the batsman out instead of bowling the ball. You can't "fake" them out line indoor cricket, once the arm comes over you can't do it. What happened was the batsman was walking off before the bowler even reached the crease, the bowler took the bails and so it would have 100% been out. I think they shouldn't have withdrawn the appeal if the batsman had been warned previously. Leaving that early isn't good backing up, it's cheating. Pure and simple. Just like overstepping as a bowler is cheating and dealt with every time.

[Jim05]

Mankad I think it's called. It's when the bowler runs the batsman out instead of bowling the ball. You can't "fake" them out line indoor cricket, once the arm comes over you can't do it. What happened was the batsman was walking off before the bowler even reached the crease, the bowler took the bails and so it would have 100% been out. I think they shouldn't have withdrawn the appeal if the batsman had been warned previously. Leaving that early isn't good backing up, it's cheating. Pure and simple. Just like overstepping as a bowler is cheating and dealt with every time.

Agree 100%, blatant cheating.
There is a stigma attached to it and most bowlers refuse to do it, i cant understand why.
I would have ordered him off the field

[Grahaml]

Mankad I think it's called. It's when the bowler runs the batsman out instead of bowling the ball. You can't "fake" them out line indoor cricket, once the arm comes over you can't do it. What happened was the batsman was walking off before the bowler even reached the crease, the bowler took the bails and so it would have 100% been out. I think they shouldn't have withdrawn the appeal if the batsman had been warned previously. Leaving that early isn't good backing up, it's cheating. Pure and simple. Just like overstepping as a bowler is cheating and dealt with every time.

Agree 100%, blatant cheating.
There is a stigma attached to it and most bowlers refuse to do it, i cant understand why.
I would have ordered him off the field

I'm half inclined to say there's no warning necessary even. If the guy is going that early you can see it before you bring your arm over then it's not even being really strict. Batsmen don't get warnings on stumpings, bowlers don't get warnings for no balls, captains don't get warnings for too many fielders outside the circle or behind square on the leg, so why is this particular form of cheating seen to need a warning?

[Media Park]

Named after Vinoo Mankad who first did it to Bill Brown in 47-48 (there has only been seven international instances, the last in a One Dayer in 1992-92).

[Media Park]

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[Jim05]

Mankad I think it's called. It's when the bowler runs the batsman out instead of bowling the ball. You can't "fake" them out line indoor cricket, once the arm comes over you can't do it. What happened was the batsman was walking off before the bowler even reached the crease, the bowler took the bails and so it would have 100% been out. I think they shouldn't have withdrawn the appeal if the batsman had been warned previously. Leaving that early isn't good backing up, it's cheating. Pure and simple. Just like overstepping as a bowler is cheating and dealt with every time.

Agree 100%, blatant cheating.
There is a stigma attached to it and most bowlers refuse to do it, i cant understand why.
I would have ordered him off the field

I'm half inclined to say there's no warning necessary even. If the guy is going that early you can see it before you bring your arm over then it's not even being really strict. Batsmen don't get warnings on stumpings, bowlers don't get warnings for no balls, captains don't get warnings for too many fielders outside the circle or behind square on the leg, so why is this particular form of cheating seen to need a warning?

Definately shouldnt be warned. When you are 1 metre down the pitch as the bowler is running in it isnt an accident

[brod]

MS Dhoni has said the team will lose out on about 20 runs in the field if all three of Sachin Tendulkar, Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag are played together....(maybe they are too slow getting into position as well, slowing the over rate down )

[Brodlach]

Brod when was the last Mankad in an international game or even first class game?

[brod]

Sri Lanka made 6/289

India 2/39 (8.2 overs)
Gambhir 15*
Kohli 0*
Tendulkar 22

[Motorboat]

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[brod]

Brod when was the last Mankad in an international game or even first class game?

TEST
Bill Brown by Vinoo Mankad, Australia v India, Sydney, 1947-48
Ian Redpath by Charlie Griffith, Australia v West Indies, Adelaide, 1968-69
Derek Randall by Ewen Chatfield, England v New Zealand, Christchurch, 1977-78
Sikander Bakht by Alan Hurst, Pakistan v Australia, Perth, 1978-79
ODI
Brian Luckhurst by Greg Chappell, England v Australia, Melbourne, 1974-75
Grant Flower by Dipak Patel, Zimbabwe v New Zealand, Harare, 1992-93
Peter Kirsten by Kapil Dev, South Africa v India, Port Elizabeth, 1992-93

[Jim05]

Brod when was the last Mankad in an international game or even first class game?

I remember Kapil Dev and Dipak Patel both doing one in the early 90's, not sure which one was the last.

[Brodlach]

Nice work Brod...took you 7 minutes though

[Jim05]

There was a Bangladesh fella who gave a warning to a Paki in a test match. The Pakis were 9 down and Bangladesh would have won the test but he only warned him. That was early to mid 2000's cant recall one since

[Media Park]

Brod when was the last Mankad in an international game or even first class game?

And I got it five posts up from when you asked...

[Jim05]

6/200(30)

[Jim05]

India all out 238
Lankans up to 2nd on table

[Media Park]

Perera 4/37
Kulasekera 3/40 MOTM
Kohli 66
Irfan Pathan 47 (34 balls)

[RustyCage]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/story/554716.html

India let Thirimanne off the hook

Ashwin had appealed, Thirimanne was not inside his crease, the finger should have gone up immediately. Spirit of cricket should not have been allowed to come in the way of fair cricket

In the 40th over of the Sri Lankan innings at the Gabba, R Ashwin spotted the non-striker Lahiru Thirimanne was about three feet outside the crease even as his back foot was about to land. Ashwin didn't go through with his delivery, turned around, ran Thirimanne out, and appealed.

For some reason though, the umpire Paul Reiffel didn't rule him out immediately, and went on to consult with the leg umpire, or even perhaps ask the Indian captain if they indeed wanted to appeal. That, despite the rule changes last year, which clearly state the bowler is "permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."

During the time that the umpires consulted, the Indian team appeared to have had a change of heart, much like they did with the case of Ian Bell at Trent Bridge last year, and seemed to withdraw the appeal. It was a classical case of this beast called "spirit of cricket" coming in the way of the laws of cricket. We criticise the ICC for not doing enough to address the lack of balance between bat and ball, but it was defeated by the players themselves in this case.

[Jim05]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwealth-bank-series-2012/content/story/554716.html

India let Thirimanne off the hook

Ashwin had appealed, Thirimanne was not inside his crease, the finger should have gone up immediately. Spirit of cricket should not have been allowed to come in the way of fair cricket

In the 40th over of the Sri Lankan innings at the Gabba, R Ashwin spotted the non-striker Lahiru Thirimanne was about three feet outside the crease even as his back foot was about to land. Ashwin didn't go through with his delivery, turned around, ran Thirimanne out, and appealed.

For some reason though, the umpire Paul Reiffel didn't rule him out immediately, and went on to consult with the leg umpire, or even perhaps ask the Indian captain if they indeed wanted to appeal. That, despite the rule changes last year, which clearly state the bowler is "permitted, before releasing the ball and provided he has not completed his usual delivery swing, to attempt to run out the non-striker."

During the time that the umpires consulted, the Indian team appeared to have had a change of heart, much like they did with the case of Ian Bell at Trent Bridge last year, and seemed to withdraw the appeal. It was a classical case of this beast called "spirit of cricket" coming in the way of the laws of cricket. We criticise the ICC for not doing enough to address the lack of balance between bat and ball, but it was defeated by the players themselves in this case.

Yep, disgraceful.
Blatant cheating, should of been out