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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby OnSong » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:22 pm

bays09 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Peter Roebuck


If some of those things are true then I think him dying is a positive to humanity in some regards

I'm not sure what to think.
Innocent until proven guilty but what if the accused jumps out a window before guilt is proven?
Do we just assume guilt?
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby CoverKing » Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:29 pm

OnSong wrote:
bays09 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Peter Roebuck


If some of those things are true then I think him dying is a positive to humanity in some regards

I'm not sure what to think.
Innocent until proven guilty but what if the accused jumps out a window before guilt is proven?
Do we just assume guilt?


I think it shows a lot of guilt on his behalf
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Gozu » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:21 pm

I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:24 pm

My grandfather always said, "innocent people don't dive out 6th floor windows, while being questioned by police."
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby smac » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:26 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:My grandfather always said, "innocent people don't dive out 6th floor windows, while being questioned by police."

That old chestnut gets rolled out everytime it happens.
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Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:27 pm

Gozu wrote:I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.

Does he have different political views Gozu? Give it a rest ffs. Keep your political views on the politics board.
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Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:29 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Gozu wrote:I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.

Does he have different political views Gozu? Give it a rest ffs. Keep your political views on the politics board.


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Re: Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:32 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Gozu wrote:I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.

Does he have different political views Gozu? Give it a rest ffs. Keep your political views on the politics board.


Are you the opinion police?

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Re: Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:38 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Gozu wrote:I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.

Does he have different political views Gozu? Give it a rest ffs. Keep your political views on the politics board.


Are you the opinion police?


Nope. Gozu has that badge. Politics has its own board.



Correct, you're the one who brought political allegiance into this debate, however.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:39 pm

smac wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:My grandfather always said, "innocent people don't dive out 6th floor windows, while being questioned by police."

That old chestnut gets rolled out everytime it happens.


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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:40 pm

OnSong wrote:
bays09 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Peter Roebuck


If some of those things are true then I think him dying is a positive to humanity in some regards

I'm not sure what to think.
Innocent until proven guilty but what if the accused jumps out a window before guilt is proven?
Do we just assume guilt?


We assume he knew nothing good was going to come of this.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby OnSong » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:43 pm

Booney wrote:
OnSong wrote:
bays09 wrote:
Punk Rooster wrote:Peter Roebuck


If some of those things are true then I think him dying is a positive to humanity in some regards

I'm not sure what to think.
Innocent until proven guilty but what if the accused jumps out a window before guilt is proven?
Do we just assume guilt?


We assume he knew nothing good was going to come of this.

Or just took a wrong turn coming out of the bathroom.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:44 pm

Seems as though he took loads of wrong turns.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:27 pm

Booney wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:[quote="Gozu"]I don't like the sounds of what Roebuck was like behind the scenes but a word of warning take anything from Vex News with a large grain of salt run by the odious Andrew Landeryou.

Does he have different political views Gozu? Give it a rest ffs. Keep your political views on the politics board.


Are you the opinion police?


Nope. Gozu has that badge. Politics has its own board.



Correct, you're the one who brought political allegiance into this debate, however.[/quote]
By asking them not be raised here?
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Johno6 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:30 pm

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Re: Re: Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Gozu » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:30 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:By asking them not be raised here?


Calm down TSG, Vex News is an agenda-leiden muckraking gossip site. That's why I'm saying don't take anything from there as fact.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Punk Rooster » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:05 pm

Gozu wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:By asking them not be raised here?


Calm down TSG, Vex News is an agenda-leiden muckraking gossip site. That's why I'm saying don't take anything from there as fact.

they seem to be singing the same tune as the others, just a bit louder...
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby redandblack » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:19 pm

I'll leave the character angle to others, but I enjoyed his commentary. I read one of his early books, "All tangled up in white", or something similar, and found it a great read, especially from a player's point of view.

I liked his commentary for the very reason that he didn't follow the herd. That didn't make him right, but it made you think. So many of the Australian commentators are a bit wallpaperish and follow the established line, not daring to criticise those players on the inner sanctum.

I heard Mike Coward and Gideon Haigh talking about Peter Roebuck on radio the other night - first class discussion.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby McAlmanac » Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:06 pm

redandblack wrote:I liked his commentary for the very reason that he didn't follow the herd. That didn't make him right, but it made you think. So many of the Australian commentators are a bit wallpaperish and follow the established line, not daring to criticise those players on the inner sanctum.

Bang on.

As for the article by Andrew Landeryou - his rant against Francis Leach showed what kind of writer he is, regardless of any facts or otherwise about Roebuck.
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Re: RIP Peter Roebuck

Postby Media Park » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:48 am

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