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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby westcoastpanther » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:12 am

Footy Smart wrote:
westcoastpanther wrote:Trent Kelly will replace Putland down in Tassie



Pretty sure Jake Haberfield is.


Interesting to see what they do, pick a guy taking wickets or one with a contract.....
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby eags » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:23 am

westcoastpanther wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:
westcoastpanther wrote:Trent Kelly will replace Putland down in Tassie



Pretty sure Jake Haberfield is.


Interesting to see what they do, pick a guy taking wickets or one with a contract.....


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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:31 am

westcoastpanther wrote:
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westcoastpanther wrote:Trent Kelly will replace Putland down in Tassie



Pretty sure Jake Haberfield is.


Interesting to see what they do, pick a guy taking wickets or one with a contract.....


Will be, Jake had an injury in the pre season and has been bowling reasonably well without luck this year. Perfromed pretty well in the one dayers last year. Hopefully gets another shot.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby tigerpie » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:25 am

kelly must play. i dont think he's had a game where he hasnt impacted majorly for west torrens with the ball. in form....pick him!!!!
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby bloods08 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:37 am

tigerpie wrote:kelly must play. i dont think he's had a game where he hasnt impacted majorly for west torrens with the ball. in form....pick him!!!!


He's also had plenty of chances (both with SA and WA) and hasn't performed. I'd be looking at someone younger imo.

Opie form Kensington looks promising.
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South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby the joker » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:45 pm

You have to think steve marks will get a chance soon. Averaging 15 with the ball and 35 with the bat. After a big year last year
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby supersonicgun » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:09 pm

the joker wrote:You have to think steve marks will get a chance soon. Averaging 15 with the ball and 35 with the bat. After a big year last year

Yeah but I think marksy doesn't take his cricket to seriously,he is just concentrating on his footy at nth pines :D
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South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby the joker » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:56 pm

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the joker wrote:You have to think steve marks will get a chance soon. Averaging 15 with the ball and 35 with the bat. After a big year last year

Yeah but I think marksy doesn't take his cricket to seriously,he is just concentrating on his footy at nth pines :D

yeah..... Bigshow would be happy to see that.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby tigerpie » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:16 pm

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tigerpie wrote:kelly must play. i dont think he's had a game where he hasnt impacted majorly for west torrens with the ball. in form....pick him!!!!


He's also had plenty of chances (both with SA and WA) and hasn't performed. I'd be looking at someone younger imo.

Opie form Kensington looks promising.

Pick blokes who are in form as he's not that old. Best performed bowler in town right now along with George maybe. He has experience on his side also which helps.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Brodlach » Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:43 pm

Dougall scored another hundred in grade cricket yesterday. Maybe he does deserve a little more time in the Redback SS team.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Media Park » Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:56 pm

Tom Cooper and Jake Haberfield were the positives from todays game, and Richardson didn't bowl too badly either.

Dan Harris needs to come back and open with Crosthwaite, so that Klinger, Ferguson and Cooper can bat three to five.

Doropolous at six would be alright, coming in earlier than he did in this game, where he needed to rock up and go bang straight away.

Then you have Dan Christian at seven, O'Brien at 8, and the batting looks a little bit more assured.

The only change would be Harris for Borgas, but shuffle it around a bit.

Putland when fit comes in, as should George.

The positive is that Mennie, George, Haberfield and Richardson will have a couple of games to fight it out for the two slots left in the attack.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby whufc » Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:28 pm

Personally i would be happy to see the Redbacks get the spoon the next 3-4 years in the shield if they were serious about promoting South Australian youth.

Recruting second stringers from other states is the wrong direction for SA to be heading and to be honest will make us nothing more than a mid table side at absolute best who wont produce any cricketers to the aussie set-up.

Example being, O'Brien goes alright but surely given time and experience there would be a young South Aussie who would be able to produce equal if not better results over time.

Sorry guys but the likes of Crosthwaite, O'Brien, Blizzard, Ludeman arent going to move SA cricket forward in years to come.

Just my two cent worth but currently it appears to me SA cricket isnt certain about where they stand as far as developing a squad is concerned.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby helicopterking » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:10 pm

Sorry guys but the likes of Crosthwaite, O'Brien, Blizzard, Ludeman arent going to move SA cricket forward in years to come.

Just my two cent worth but currently it appears to me SA cricket isnt certain about where they stand as far as developing a squad is concerned.[/quote]

Crosthwaite, Blizzard are 26, so they should have the pin pulled on them? I wouldnt have thought so and a bit extreme. How would depth go if you booted everyone out over 25 years of age.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Ewok » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:09 pm

whufc wrote:Personally i would be happy to see the Redbacks get the spoon the next 3-4 years in the shield if they were serious about promoting South Australian youth.
Recruting second stringers from other states is the wrong direction for SA to be heading and to be honest will make us nothing more than a mid table side at absolute best who wont produce any cricketers to the aussie set-up.
Example being, O'Brien goes alright but surely given time and experience there would be a young South Aussie who would be able to produce equal if not better results over time.
Sorry guys but the likes of Crosthwaite, O'Brien, Blizzard, Ludeman arent going to move SA cricket forward in years to come.
Just my two cent worth but currently it appears to me SA cricket isnt certain about where they stand as far as developing a squad is concerned.

I wouldn't be happy to see them bottom at any time but understand your point.O'Brien, what is his role? Allrounder? He doesn't do enough with the ball or bat to justify a spot on either, an allrounder should be able to perform well enough in one discipline to be able to earn a spot on that alone. He does neither. How would blokes like Bailey and Chadd Sayers feel after performing in grade cricket and getting constantly overlooked, how do weknow if they're good enough if they don't get a decent run?Seriously what's the worst that could happen by giving these kids an extended run, we're bottom for f**ksake.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby heater31 » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:39 pm

Ewok wrote:
whufc wrote:Personally i would be happy to see the Redbacks get the spoon the next 3-4 years in the shield if they were serious about promoting South Australian youth.
Recruting second stringers from other states is the wrong direction for SA to be heading and to be honest will make us nothing more than a mid table side at absolute best who wont produce any cricketers to the aussie set-up.
Example being, O'Brien goes alright but surely given time and experience there would be a young South Aussie who would be able to produce equal if not better results over time.
Sorry guys but the likes of Crosthwaite, O'Brien, Blizzard, Ludeman arent going to move SA cricket forward in years to come.
Just my two cent worth but currently it appears to me SA cricket isnt certain about where they stand as far as developing a squad is concerned.

I wouldn't be happy to see them bottom at any time but understand your point.O'Brien, what is his role? Allrounder? He doesn't do enough with the ball or bat to justify a spot on either, an allrounder should be able to perform well enough in one discipline to be able to earn a spot on that alone. He does neither. How would blokes like Bailey and Chadd Sayers feel after performing in grade cricket and getting constantly overlooked, how do weknow if they're good enough if they don't get a decent run?Seriously what's the worst that could happen by giving these kids an extended run, we're bottom for f**ksake.



Sayers is in the side currently and if he is the best we have....he hasn't set the world on fire yet.



it gets back to high performance and funding. I'm sure other states have high performance programs attached to their state sports institute yet South Australia has nothing. Cricket sit on their hands letting the AFL and SANFL get hold of our youngsters before cricket even realises what the hell is going on :oops:


How many Grade clubs have players on their seniors lists playing for the club? I know at my Grade club we have none from our zone but 4 from other country zones (2 of which joined before zones were around). Why isn't there many country kids playing cricket in town?? its the lack of $$$ the clubs have to promote themselves and identify the talent available.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Ewok » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:10 pm

Yes Sayers is in this game and he may or may not become an effective shield player but he's done the job in grade cricket over the past few yrs and deserved a go. By not picking a Bradman medallist who has taken plenty of wickets the SACA are basically saying the grade comp is shit. This IMO is true but it's in the SACA's hands to fix the problem. Funding is a prblem but would reduce if they culled a few A-Grade teams,and the standard of play should improve as well.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Footy Smart » Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:15 pm

heater31 wrote:
Ewok wrote:
whufc wrote:Personally i would be happy to see the Redbacks get the spoon the next 3-4 years in the shield if they were serious about promoting South Australian youth.
Recruting second stringers from other states is the wrong direction for SA to be heading and to be honest will make us nothing more than a mid table side at absolute best who wont produce any cricketers to the aussie set-up.
Example being, O'Brien goes alright but surely given time and experience there would be a young South Aussie who would be able to produce equal if not better results over time.
Sorry guys but the likes of Crosthwaite, O'Brien, Blizzard, Ludeman arent going to move SA cricket forward in years to come.
Just my two cent worth but currently it appears to me SA cricket isnt certain about where they stand as far as developing a squad is concerned.

I wouldn't be happy to see them bottom at any time but understand your point.O'Brien, what is his role? Allrounder? He doesn't do enough with the ball or bat to justify a spot on either, an allrounder should be able to perform well enough in one discipline to be able to earn a spot on that alone. He does neither. How would blokes like Bailey and Chadd Sayers feel after performing in grade cricket and getting constantly overlooked, how do weknow if they're good enough if they don't get a decent run?Seriously what's the worst that could happen by giving these kids an extended run, we're bottom for f**ksake.


Sayers is in the side currently and if he is the best we have....he hasn't set the world on fire yet.



it gets back to high performance and funding. I'm sure other states have high performance programs attached to their state sports institute yet South Australia has nothing. Cricket sit on their hands letting the AFL and SANFL get hold of our youngsters before cricket even realises what the hell is going on :oops:


How many Grade clubs have players on their seniors lists playing for the club? I know at my Grade club we have none from our zone but 4 from other country zones (2 of which joined before zones were around). Why isn't there many country kids playing cricket in town?? its the lack of $$$ the clubs have to promote themselves and identify the talent available.



having just travelled to our (TTGDCC) country zone for a 2 day camp with SACA I went with the simplistic view that it was all about money or distance etc. Infact, many of these kids, talented and in Jnr State squads, just wanna play with their mates and play both Jnr and Snrs for their town. We found that many feel they 'cant' not play for their town side as they wont have enough numbers to fill a side. These kids are also playing A grade country and under 16s, the country comp especially Murray Districts is going under slowly. They play a large amount of games on turf and Renmark/Waikerie etc have wonderful facilities
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Media Park » Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:45 am

Bupa Sheffield Shield
South Australia lose by 182 runs

Tasmania Innings 1
PR George 4/112 (31)- He's our best quick, our genuine wicket taking option, but if he has to bowl 30 overs every first dig, he's going to get injured. Needs Putland back quick.
DT Christian 3/73 (27)- The lion-hearted seamer went alright, if we can get an extra Shield standard batsman, then he can drop back to seven or eight in the line-up.
Sayers, Kelly and O'Brien- Didn't dominate, but kept it tight, built pressure, and with wicket taking bowlers at the other end, that's all you need.

SA Innings 1
First wicket partnership- to put on 67 was solid, sort of what we'd expect from Harris and Klinger, but the less that's said about the rest of the top order, the better.
M Klinger- 86- Try as he might, he couldn't get anyone to stick with him, which is a major reason behind the sub par score.
Seventh wicket partnership- Also a 67 run partnership, O'Brien joined Crosthwaite with the score at 6/170, and they were a dogged pair, the type of partnership you would like to see from your lower order players. They gave me hope.
Aaron O'Brien 51*- The bit part player was producing his best efforts on this day, and glad he got over the line for a fifty.

Tasmania Innings 2
Sayers 1/41 (17)- Bowled well for what was going on around him, reasonably tight, it was impressive considering the domination of the Tas batters. But lets not talk about anyone else in this dig- You cannot polish a turd.

SA Innings 2
First wicket partnership 88- A solid effort yet again, these two will get us off to a good start more often than not, perhaps we need to give up on finding a new opener, keep Maxie up there, and groom a new middle order player.
Dan Harris- A half century is handy anytime, but we did need more, did soak up 98 balls as we battled unsuccessfully for a draw.
M Klinger 43- Kept out 78 deliveries, and along with Harris they should have done enough for the others to see us to the draw.
Sayers and Kelly- We need tail enders who are not spuds, they have to be able to hold a bat, either to see us home for a few runs, or block out a draw. Sayers 14 from 65 balls, and Kelly 18 from 25 balls, played contrasting knocks, but they will be effective in later matches I believe. Sayers especially I would stick with...

Aside from this, I would like to make special mention of a Victorian in our side, Mr Adam John Crosthwaite.
TAS INNINGS 1: 1 bye (in 116 overs) and a catch
SA INNINGS 1: 23 (88 balls)
TAS INNINGS 2: 0 byes (71.3 overs)
SA INNINGS 2: 22 (62 balls)

These are not startling numbers, but you need bowlers to produce edges for more catching opportunities, and compared to our last wicket keeper/batsman, the fact that he is able to defend over time, and accumulate runs over that time, he is a keeper.
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Re: South Australian Cricket general discussion

Postby Media Park » Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:38 pm

There is hope, Thornton... :D

A batsman who can survive is a blessing for us, they just need to stick with him...
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