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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby mal » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:33 am

mal wrote:
mal wrote:The Indian B grader attack was punished
Now its the Australian B grade attacks turn

3/289 thanks to Slam Cams 89*[49]

3/289 very flattering
85 off the last 5 overs

To have MARSH/PAINE/CLARKE batting top 3 is not the right balance as they are too sedate

MARSH and PAINE bat ok when SWATTO is the batting partner
WARNER should be one of the openers

CLARKE 111 * [139] slow but neccessary



India 1/0
Not bad for a B grade attack !!!
Another who spoke tooooooo soon



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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby mal » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:39 am

ICC ODI INTERNATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP

1 AU 132
2 IN 115
3 SA 115
4 SL 115
5 EG 112
6 NZ 100
7 PA 099
8 WI 067
9 BA 064
10 IRELAND 39

This game was a promotors dream the top 2 ranked sides playing against each other
And both sides fielded below full strength teams
AU have sent arguably thier best 3 players home WATTO , PUNTA AND MJ
AU is rightly giving the big guns a better preperation for the Ashes Test games

Perhaps the scheduling of these games needs to be looked at if the teams are going to treat them with contempt
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Jim05 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:48 am

Said all along that on indian grounds 300+ is a must. Postage stamp size grounds with lightning outfields and we got off to crap start. Needs to be going at more than 3 an over in first 10 overs. Open with warner ffs
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby smithy » Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:54 am

mal wrote:AU have sent arguably thier best 3 players home WATTO , PUNTA AND MJ

I'm sure you'll find an argument somewhere with that one MAL. ;)
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Media Park » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:44 am

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Media Park wrote:Also, who are Starc and Hastings? :shock:

Don't need to see them again... :lol:

You sound like the ignorant dumbarse on Triple M (Bris) I heard this morning.

Starc took 0/51 from 8.5 overs at 5.77 per over. Not great, but they're blooding a young player with potential in a series that is meaningless anyway.
Hasting took 2/44 from his 10 overs. Pretty respectable.

Meanwhile the experienced Hopes went for 0/56 off 7 at 8.0 per over!
Who needs to get the flick again? :roll:


I was more referring to the fact that these two seem to have been plucked from nowhere...

If PG is the next prospect for AUS, why is he back at AO and not still in India?

How can you give an international game to someone with 5 ODD games...

But thankyou Interceptor, I can now update my sig... 8)
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby CoverKing » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:38 am

Media Park wrote:
Interceptor wrote:
Media Park wrote:Also, who are Starc and Hastings? :shock:

Don't need to see them again... :lol:

You sound like the ignorant dumbarse on Triple M (Bris) I heard this morning.

Starc took 0/51 from 8.5 overs at 5.77 per over. Not great, but they're blooding a young player with potential in a series that is meaningless anyway.
Hasting took 2/44 from his 10 overs. Pretty respectable.

Meanwhile the experienced Hopes went for 0/56 off 7 at 8.0 per over!
Who needs to get the flick again? :roll:


I was more referring to the fact that these two seem to have been plucked from nowhere...

If PG is the next prospect for AUS, why is he back at AO and not still in India?

How can you give an international game to someone with 5 ODD games...

But thankyou Interceptor, I can now update my sig... 8)


Err Peter George doesnt play OD cricket for SA hence why he is back in Australia!!

Mitchell Starc is going to be a gun for years to come. Will be the next Nathan Bracken!
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Media Park » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:40 am

CoverKing wrote:
Media Park wrote:
Interceptor wrote:
Media Park wrote:Also, who are Starc and Hastings? :shock:

Don't need to see them again... :lol:

You sound like the ignorant dumbarse on Triple M (Bris) I heard this morning.

Starc took 0/51 from 8.5 overs at 5.77 per over. Not great, but they're blooding a young player with potential in a series that is meaningless anyway.
Hasting took 2/44 from his 10 overs. Pretty respectable.

Meanwhile the experienced Hopes went for 0/56 off 7 at 8.0 per over!
Who needs to get the flick again? :roll:


I was more referring to the fact that these two seem to have been plucked from nowhere...

If PG is the next prospect for AUS, why is he back at AO and not still in India?

How can you give an international game to someone with 5 ODD games...

But thankyou Interceptor, I can now update my sig... 8)


Err Peter George doesnt play OD cricket for SA hence why he is back in Australia!!

Mitchell Starc is going to be a gun for years to come. Will be the next Nathan Bracken!


Ahem, He has played 5 games... 8)

That number seems to ring a bell... ;)
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby CoverKing » Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:41 am

LOL true. He should be called up against the Lankans than ;)
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby daysofourlives » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:57 pm

Michael Clarke needs to go, it is clear that even when he does get runs he costs us matches. 111 off 139 is a joke in indian conditions.
IIRC Geoff Marsh was criticised for being to slow back in the 80's yet if he made a ton he would invariably end up at close to a run a ball by the end of it
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Media Park » Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:26 pm

I'm not 100% on the Marsh stat DOOL, had a quick look though:

Career strike rate 55 (averaged 39).

9 tons, 1 with a strike rate of 103, one in the 90's, one in the 80's, the rest between 50 and 70-ish...

Clarke is an interesting one... If he's going to play that "bat time, bat till the end innings," then I think he needs to open, and hopefully end around 130, letting the White, Haddin, Watson-type strikers keep the rate up around him...
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Pup » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:09 pm

daysofourlives wrote:Michael Clarke needs to go, it is clear that even when he does get runs he costs us matches. 111 off 139 is a joke in indian conditions.
IIRC Geoff Marsh was criticised for being to slow back in the 80's yet if he made a ton he would invariably end up at close to a run a ball by the end of it


When you come in at the end of the fourth over and bat through and have a strike rate of just under 80 i would say that is perfectly reasonable especially batting with players like White and co.

How about you blame the ridiculously weak bowling line up we are fielding.
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby brod » Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:36 pm

Media Park wrote:Watched most of the AUS innings, and Cameron White is really a special talent.

North or Hussey OUT of the Test side, WHITE in immediately.
Also, who are Starc and Hastings? :shock:

Don't need to see them again... :lol:


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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby smithy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:29 am

The only thing Geoff Marsh had going for him was his gully fielding.
The rest of his cricket was very ordinary at best.
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby smithy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:35 am

Pup wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:Michael Clarke needs to go, it is clear that even when he does get runs he costs us matches. 111 off 139 is a joke in indian conditions.
IIRC Geoff Marsh was criticised for being to slow back in the 80's yet if he made a ton he would invariably end up at close to a run a ball by the end of it


When you come in at the end of the fourth over and bat through and have a strike rate of just under 80 i would say that is perfectly reasonable especially batting with players like White and co.

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I don;t think making Clarke open is a totally unreasonable move given his strike rate is poor, especially if he is going to captain the side.
I reckon he's done it previously for Australia.
he should be on notice on all forms of the game at the moment though, especially 20-20 and ODI.
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby mal » Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:07 am

Hussey and Bollinger now coming home
Me thinks AU are afr far more concerned about EG ashes tour[and rightly so]
This further throws this ODI series into a farce

QUESTION
Those International OD ratings I posted earlier
How is the points system worked out
When does it end[31/12/2010 ?]

AU were 17 points up on India
How many points do India get everytime it beats AU ?
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:59 am

smithy wrote:The only thing Geoff Marsh had going for him was his gully fielding.
The rest of his cricket was very ordinary at best.


This is a most unfair assessment of Marsh. If you line him up against Slats, Tubby, Haydos and Langer you have a point but at the stage Marshy started we were playing guys like Robbie Kerr in the opening slot. We were so short of openers at one stage we had Fat Cat opening the batting.

Geoff Marsh batted for long periods as an anchor in Australian teams when we were really struggling and his partnership with David Boon helped put Australia back on the road to recovery. Very ordinary? I'd suggest dependable and servicable are more apt adjectives to describe swampy.

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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
smithy wrote:The only thing Geoff Marsh had going for him was his gully fielding.
The rest of his cricket was very ordinary at best.


This is a most unfair assessment of Marsh. If you line him up against Slats, Tubby, Haydos and Langer you have a point but at the stage Marshy started we were playing guys like Robbie Kerr in the opening slot. We were so short of openers at one stage we had Fat Cat opening the batting.

Geoff Marsh batted for long periods as an anchor in Australian teams when we were really struggling and his partnership with David Boon helped put Australia back on the road to recovery. Very ordinary? I'd suggest dependable and servicable are more apt adjectives to describe swampy.

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I remember him getting belted from pillar to post by a 4 pronged Windies attack many a time. My only criticism of him would be that he batted too slow in ODI's, sure enough he'd get the occasional ton, but it would soak 220 balls to do so.
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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:26 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:I remember him getting belted from pillar to post by a 4 pronged Windies attack many a time. My only criticism of him would be that he batted too slow in ODI's, sure enough he'd get the occasional ton, but it would soak 220 balls to do so.


No roped off grounds in those days lightning and bar the Windies nearly every side had a player who played this role. Australia persisted with a similar role until Tubby and for a time Katich were the last of the breed.

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Re: 2nd ODI Australia vs India

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:40 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I remember him getting belted from pillar to post by a 4 pronged Windies attack many a time. My only criticism of him would be that he batted too slow in ODI's, sure enough he'd get the occasional ton, but it would soak 220 balls to do so.


No roped off grounds in those days lightning and bar the Windies nearly every side had a player who played this role. Australia persisted with a similar role until Tubby and for a time Katich were the last of the breed.

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Yeah, and 200 was a competitive total. How things have changed. The Windies had Larry to play the sheet anchor role.
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