South Africa in England

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England vs South Africa
First Test
Match Drawn

ENGLAND 8d/593
IR Bell 199
KP Pietersen 152
SCJ Broad 76
AN Cook 60
Exrtas 48
M Morkel 4/121
PL Harris 3/129
SOUTH AFRICA 247
AG Prince 101
MS Panesar 4/74
SOUTH AFRICA 3/393
ND McKenzie 138
GC Smith 107
HM Amla 104*

Man of the Match : Ian Bell

4 match series level 0-0

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Andrew Flintoff has been brought into the squad for the Second Test, replacing Chris Tremlett

England squad Michael Vaughan (capt), Tim Ambrose (wk), James Anderson, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Alastair Cook, Andrew Flintoff, Monty Panesar, Kevin Pietersen, Ryan Sidebottom, Andrew Strauss

[Rik E Boy]

A Pieterson 99 would enough to beat an Ian Bell 199 for man of the match honours. Just hate watching Bell edge and nick his way to huges scores. **** of a batsman.

regards,

REB

[mighty_tiger_79]

A Pieterson 99 would enough to beat an Ian Bell 199 for man of the match honours. Just hate watching Bell edge and nick his way to huges scores. c*** of a batsman.

regards,

REB

BELL will ding dong past KP this test too!!!!!!

[MAY-Z]

2nd test about to start- south africa unchanged
england out collingwood and sidebottom (inj) in flintoff and PATTINSON for his debut, very interesting selection that with him only having his first season in england having played for victoria in our summer

smith has won the toss and elected to bowl- the only decison he could make as you need 20 wickets to win a test and bowling first in these conditions will give them the best chance

[MAY-Z]

pattinson profile:

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/engvrsa ... 70253.html

only 11 first class matches and 40 wickets at an average of 28

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England vs South Africa
Second Test
Day 1 - Session 2

ENGLAND 8/185 (46.5 overs)
KP Pietersen 45
IR Bell 31
M Morkel 3/39
DW Steyn 3/71

[Rik E Boy]

A bit of cheating going on in the second test....

Devilliers attempts to claim a catch off Strauss when he clearly dropped the ball...a real Greg Dwyer job.

AND

Vaughan0 attempts to claim a catch of that dud Amla and the up goes the finger and off goes the bearded clam. It's dodgy as once again and the Jarpie manager walks out and demands that Amla is re-instated. The video replay shows that Vaughan0 grassed it and Amala bats on.

WTF???

regards,

REB

[Pidge]

Yeah heard about this on 5aa this morning. Sounds like England are very poor sports of late.

[jackpot jim]

Having seen the Vaughan non-catch on telly last night from every angle, it did appear doubtful and rightly given Not Out BUT u can't Blame Vaughan for claiming it a catch as it was a brilliant effort and he would have felt he caught it cleanly at the time. Any criticism of Vaughan is certainly NOt warranted in this instance.
Havent seen the DeVilliers catch yet but it didn't sound good.

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England vs South Africa
Second Test
Stumps day One

ENGLAND 203
KP Pietersen 45
M Morkel 4/52
DW Steyn 4/76

SOUTH AFRICA 3/101
GC Smith 44
JM Anderson 2/39

[jackpot jim]

Having seen the Vaughan non-catch on telly last night from every angle, it did appear doubtful and rightly given Not Out BUT u can't Blame Vaughan for claiming it a catch as it was a brilliant effort and he would have felt he caught it cleanly at the time. Any criticism of Vaughan is certainly NOt warranted in this instance.
Havent seen the DeVilliers catch yet but it didn't sound good.

Seen the DeVilliers catch now and whilst it Doesn't look that great in SSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWWWW Motion on telly, the fielders should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Questioning their Integrity as things look a lot different at Normal speed and i just can't imagine fieldsmen these days trying to put it over the Batsmen and umpires considering they know that it's going to be reviewed from 20 different camera angles.

[rod_rooster]

Having seen the Vaughan non-catch on telly last night from every angle, it did appear doubtful and rightly given Not Out BUT u can't Blame Vaughan for claiming it a catch as it was a brilliant effort and he would have felt he caught it cleanly at the time. Any criticism of Vaughan is certainly NOt warranted in this instance.
Havent seen the DeVilliers catch yet but it didn't sound good.

Seen the DeVilliers catch now and whilst it Doesn't look that great in SSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWWWW Motion on telly, the fielders should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Questioning their Integrity as things look a lot different at Normal speed and i just can't imagine fieldsmen these days trying to put it over the Batsmen and umpires considering they know that it's going to be reviewed from 20 different camera angles.

So are you saying that it should have been given out despite the fact that he clearly didn't catch it??

[jackpot jim]

NO.

Just saying that the criticism the players are getting for not playing within the spirit of the game is NOT justified. thats all.

Right decision was made on both occassions going on the video evidence available.

[mal]

Have always considered Ian Bell a very overrated cricketer.
2591 runs at 41.79 (before this Test), with seven centuries (averages a century every ten innings) and 18 fifties (just under every four innings).
His averages against the decent bowling attacks are 25.10 (v Australia), and 26.75 (v India). He has not scored a century against those sides.
The South African attack simply isn't what it used to be, and that shows, with a substandard cricketer performing as he did.

SSSSTEYN
NTINI
MORKEL
KALLIS
HARRIS

Thats a pretty good attack
They will cause some damage b4 the series finishes
They were clobbered by KP and BELL did some damage as well
When they get KP cheap EG will falter in this series

PS
SMITH
Another absolute DUMBO captain that wins a toss in Tests and bowls first

EG all out 203 next innings
regards
NostraMALdamaus

[mal]

MAL - Besides Steyn and the unproven SNorkel that test attack has a bully boy reputation about it.
Ntinin and Kallis are crap and only prey upon the likes of NZ.etc.
Harris from what I saw was shite and nothing to work with.


Snorkel has plenty of potential I agree but besides Steyn the SAfrican attack is borish and ordinary much like their captain.

EG all out 203 next innings


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[stan]

Guys I was watching a bit of the cricket earlier and I just wonder about the english attack. When the ball is not doing much they look a bit flat, like they havent got much to give and I believe knocking over SA in the first inns of the first test isnt something im expecting to see again. More like the second inn's and of course the first inn's of this test. I have this opinion about the english bowlers at the moment. Well

I'll start talking about Pattinson, at 29 years of age he goes alright. Hes a strong bowler at around 130 - 135 km/h, has a strong action and when the ball isnt doing much he has the ability to hit the pitch hard and work the batsmen a bit. Got the batsmen jumping around abit. Although his wicket ball was a terrible decision I think he adds more to the attack than some of the others.

Jimmy anderson, well hes still jimmy anderson, strange bowler, when the ball isnt doing much I think hes in a bit of striff. Picked up some early wickets but when he came back he looked a bit ordinary. Feel hes one that really needs the new ball to make some damage.

The next is Flintoff. He looked good, new ball old ball had plenty to give. England really need him going well in there attack to do some damage. Looks like hes starting to get match fit again. Really need him to take the new ball at the moment with Pattinson.

Now broad. Looked like poo all day, was all over the shop and at 130 - 135 km/h he needs to get it right. I thought that his figures actually flattered the way he bowled.

Monty, Monty Monty, not much turn but did manage to keep it tight and do an alright job at the moment. Prince went after him a bit but I feel he held his own. It was a good job with a pitch with little turn at the moment.

Thats my view. One last thing I though Amila was unlucky to be given out but thats cricket, he was looking good and so far has been havinga good series. Definitly one to watch.

[MAY-Z]

Having seen the Vaughan non-catch on telly last night from every angle, it did appear doubtful and rightly given Not Out BUT u can't Blame Vaughan for claiming it a catch as it was a brilliant effort and he would have felt he caught it cleanly at the time. Any criticism of Vaughan is certainly NOt warranted in this instance.
Havent seen the DeVilliers catch yet but it didn't sound good.

Seen the DeVilliers catch now and whilst it Doesn't look that great in SSSSSLLLLLLLOOOOOOWWWWWWWW Motion on telly, the fielders should be given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to Questioning their Integrity as things look a lot different at Normal speed and i just can't imagine fieldsmen these days trying to put it over the Batsmen and umpires considering they know that it's going to be reviewed from 20 different camera angles.

So are you saying that it should have been given out despite the fact that he clearly didn't catch it??

cook was given out caught in the first innings even though he clearly didnt hit it

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England vs South Africa
Second Test
Stumps - Day Two

ENGLAND 203
M Morkel 4/52
DW Steyn 4/76

SOUTH AFRICA 4/322
AG Prince 134*
AB de Villiers 70*

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England vs South Africa
Second Test
Stumps - Day Three

ENGLAND 203
M Morkel 4/52
DW Steyn 4/76
SOUTH AFRICA 522
AB de Villiers 174
AG Prince 149
MS Panesar 3/65
JM Anderson 3/136
DJ Pattinson 2/95 (on debut)
A Flintoff 1/77 (40 overs) (return from injury)
ENGLAND 2/50
AJ Strauss 0
AN Cook 23*
MP Vaughn 21
M Ntini 2/16