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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:47 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:They both keep like they are wearing oven mits. I'm not sold on Paine either, could he last 5 days without getting injured?

Whose the best gloveman in domestic cricket currently? Pick the best keeper regardless of his batting ability and make the batsmen PERFORM FFS
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby wristwatcher » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:49 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D



Hughes has actually made test hundreds albeit a while ago now. Also did score an 80 odd not out in the first test.

Gee Quinney and Maxwell better not make runs in the early shield games this summer or we could be in real strife. Id rather see Uzi make painful single figure scores than either of those two international duds get another crack :oops:
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:54 pm

heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


Didn't see him at the lunch break yesterday, but have heard him make the point before that virtually all of Australia's long-term leaders have been into the Test side at pretty young ages. Smith or Hughes are the only two at the moment, and currently there's not even a ready short-term captain amongst the current senior players.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:56 pm

gadj1976 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.


Bairstow vs Watson - nil all draw for mine.


Bairstow hasn't set the world on fire, but has made three or four pretty important contributions as support for Bell and others when their innings has been teetering, so has been far better than any Aussie number 6, apart from perhaps Hughes in the first Test IMO.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:58 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D


Have always been keen on Khawaja, and thought he was pretty stiff to be left out at other times, but this series has had plenty of opportunities to make his name, but hasn't, so agree time to look elsewhere.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:38 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:They both keep like they are wearing oven mits. I'm not sold on Paine either, could he last 5 days without getting injured?

Whose the best gloveman in domestic cricket currently? Pick the best keeper regardless of his batting ability and make the batsmen PERFORM FFS

Have said this for years.
Nevill and Hartley miles ahead IMO
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby the wonder elephant » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:13 pm

FlyingHigh wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


Didn't see him at the lunch break yesterday, but have heard him make the point before that virtually all of Australia's long-term leaders have been into the Test side at pretty young ages. Smith or Hughes are the only two at the moment, and currently there's not even a ready short-term captain amongst the current senior players.

George Baily ????
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:27 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D

Agreed, I'd like to see Hughes come in for Khawaja in the 4th test.

And I think that's a great idea PG. :lol:
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby heater31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:36 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D

Agreed, I'd like to see Hughes come in for Khawaja in the 4th test.

And I think that's a great idea PG. :lol:



5th Test TDK or are we replaying the 4th? ;)
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:39 pm

heater31 wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Phantom Gossiper wrote:Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D

Agreed, I'd like to see Hughes come in for Khawaja in the 4th test.

And I think that's a great idea PG. :lol:

5th Test TDK or are we replaying the 4th? ;)

Ah yes the 5th test, that's a typo, my mistake.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby FlyingHigh » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:30 pm

the wonder elephant wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


Didn't see him at the lunch break yesterday, but have heard him make the point before that virtually all of Australia's long-term leaders have been into the Test side at pretty young ages. Smith or Hughes are the only two at the moment, and currently there's not even a ready short-term captain amongst the current senior players.

George Baily ????


Thought he was worth a try this series at 6, even if he only produced Bairstow-like figures it would have been worthwhile, but it's not really the Australian way to pick a team around a captain a la Mike Brealey, but I suppose if the situation was desperate enough the selectors might.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby the wonder elephant » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:15 pm

George Baily ????[/quote]

Thought he was worth a try this series at 6, even if he only produced Bairstow-like figures it would have been worthwhile, but it's not really the Australian way to pick a team around a captain a la Mike Brealey, but I suppose if the situation was desperate enough the selectors might.[/quote]
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby ORDoubleBlues » Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:54 pm

Yes AmBays, you were right about that Harris/Bird comment back in the first test thread.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Johno6 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:16 am

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby heater31 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:20 am

What paper published that Johno??? :shock: :oops:
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Johno6 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:23 am

apparently it was in the telegraph?

but was deleted before final print.

but someone got a copy of a hard copy or something along those lines.

saw it on twittr
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Failed Creation » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:40 am

the wonder elephant wrote:
FlyingHigh wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


Didn't see him at the lunch break yesterday, but have heard him make the point before that virtually all of Australia's long-term leaders have been into the Test side at pretty young ages. Smith or Hughes are the only two at the moment, and currently there's not even a ready short-term captain amongst the current senior players.

George Baily ????


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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:20 pm

bring back Matty Wade

you blokes a harsh on your critique about his keeping
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby whufc » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:27 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:bring back Matty Wade

you blokes a harsh on your critique about his keeping


His a better batsmen than our current number 3,5,6,7
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby FlyingHigh » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:32 am

the wonder elephant wrote:George Baily ????


Thought he was worth a try this series at 6, even if he only produced Bairstow-like figures it would have been worthwhile, but it's not really the Australian way to pick a team around a captain a la Mike Brealey, but I suppose if the situation was desperate enough the selectors might.[/quote]
astute tactical brain for mine contributes with the bat could do worse .... steve smith , usman phil .......??[/quote]

Whilst I don't necessarily disagree, if hasn't even been picked in this squad, I doubt he'll ever play test cricket. Also, can you imagine him being captain after 4 tests if Clarke gets injured?
Think Steve Smith is now in there for the long haul. get the feeling selectors see him a bit like S Waugh in his early years, and that he'll iron out his problems.
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