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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:03 am

Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby heater31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:04 am

cripple wrote:
stampy wrote:shits me even more that the scoreline could've been the same but our way 3-1



England aren't flash but they have never seriously been in any real risk of losing any of the matches they have won, only exception being the washed out test. Australia have had a good session occasionally that has papered over the massive issues this side currently faces.



Exactly, Australia are lacking consistency which has cost them dearly. Prime example was the poor bowling to England's tail (Ryan Harris is excused mostly). It was like watching the Redbacks bowl to a tail end :oops: Remove the top order then let the tail off the hook and get easy runs which leaves the Batsmen behind the 8 ball trying to make up for that poor bowling.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby heater31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:07 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:16 am

heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


My corrugated automatic wicky fence is far more reliable that Haddin behind the pegs though.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby MatteeG » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:34 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:My corrugated automatic wicky fence is far more reliable that Haddin behind the pegs though.


Would probably be harder to get out too....
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:31 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.


Bairstow vs Watson - nil all draw for mine.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby gadj1976 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:34 pm

Doesn't the state of our international side imitate itself at the domestic level?

Oppositions bottom order get a stack of runs that ultimately turns the game.

When batting, we can't play spin and can't occupy the crease.

All stems from our suburban level I feel - that an 20/20 and the quick buck it derives.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:42 pm

Clarke claiming a positive out of the fact we got within 75 runs
WADH!!!! :evil:
Pull your head in Pup it was a friggin disgrace
That was the 3rd time in our last 7 tests that the last 9 wickets have fallen for under 100.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Footy Smart » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:48 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Player for player they are a better side than us.

Cook vs Rogers
Root vs Warner (50/50 perhaps)
Trott vs Khawaja
Pieterson vs Clarke
Bell vs Smith
Bairstow vs Watson
Prior vs Haddin
Bresnan vs Siddle (50/50)
Broad vs Harris
Swan vs Lyon
Anderson vs Bird.



Matt Prior is struggling for runs at the minute.

But Chappeli has it right during lunch break last night we have some massive problems brewing with Clarke and his back issues, Haddin not getting any younger. Rogers in the same boat. He even suggested that the next Captain could be Steve Smith :shock: . FFS let him cement his spot in the side before start talking about leading the side :roll:


My corrugated automatic wicky fence is far more reliable that Haddin behind the pegs though.


Prior with 2 drop catches and a missed run out, don’t think Haddin has put a foot wrong with the gloves.... well not that i can remember! but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of you pre conceived vendetta :lol:
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby MAY-Z » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:10 pm

Footy Smart wrote:Prior with 2 drop catches and a missed run out, don’t think Haddin has put a foot wrong with the gloves.... well not that i can remember! but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of you pre conceived vendetta :lol:


and almost winning australia the game in the first test with the bat, plus the quality of some of his leg side catching - he has cleearly been the superior keeper in this series
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:30 pm

MAY-Z wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Prior with 2 drop catches and a missed run out, don’t think Haddin has put a foot wrong with the gloves.... well not that i can remember! but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of you pre conceived vendetta :lol:


and almost winning australia the game in the first test with the bat, plus the quality of some of his leg side catching - he has cleearly been the superior keeper in this series

Must of missed his dropped catches in the first few tests.
Terrible keeper, 5th test should be his farewell match
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby heater31 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:31 pm

Jim05 wrote:
MAY-Z wrote:
Footy Smart wrote:Prior with 2 drop catches and a missed run out, don’t think Haddin has put a foot wrong with the gloves.... well not that i can remember! but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of you pre conceived vendetta :lol:


and almost winning australia the game in the first test with the bat, plus the quality of some of his leg side catching - he has cleearly been the superior keeper in this series

Must of missed his dropped catches in the first few tests.
Terrible keeper, 5th test should be his farewell match



Well Wade didn't exactly glove them cleanly in India either....
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Jim05 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:37 pm

Thats because Wade is garbage.
Wade and Haddin are probably the two worst glovesman in Australia.
Time to pick the best keeper not the best batter who can handle the gloves a little
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Vulcan » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:41 pm

C'mon lads time for tim Paine now surely.
Good luck with top 6.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby topsywaldron » Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:44 pm

Lost at the selection table in the first two tests IMHO.

Agar's selection was the kind of bold masterstroke/panicked throw a dart at any spinner's name good teams may be able to take but not ones clinging on perilously to past glorious times like the Aussies are.

Bird should have played earlier, Hughes deserved more chances than he got and Starc's inclusion will always baffle me.

England aren't that good and will probably go on to win the series 4 - 0.

Bring back Digger. :D
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:32 pm

Footy Smart wrote:
Prior with 2 drop catches and a missed run out, don’t think Haddin has put a foot wrong with the gloves.... well not that i can remember! but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of you pre conceived vendetta :lol:



I have no pre-conceived vendetta against him, I just think he's a poo keeper, I've seen a few drops this season by him, he did take a great catch last test though.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm

heater31 wrote:

Well Wade didn't exactly glove them cleanly in India either....


They both keep like they are wearing oven mits. I'm not sold on Paine either, could he last 5 days without getting injured?
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:34 pm

topsywaldron wrote:Lost at the selection table in the first two tests IMHO.

Agar's selection was the kind of bold masterstroke/panicked throw a dart at any spinner's name good teams may be able to take but not ones clinging on perilously to past glorious times like the Aussies are.

Bird should have played earlier, Hughes deserved more chances than he got and Starc's inclusion will always baffle me.

England aren't that good and will probably go on to win the series 4 - 0.

Bring back Digger. :D


Lyon could've been the difference.
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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:42 pm

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:sack chuck ffs

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Re: England v Australia 4th Test

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:43 pm

Surely Hughes should play ahead of Khawaja? Would rather see them persist with Hughes even through lean times over Khawaja - at least Hughes looks like he has the ability to take a game on and score big scores, Khawaja just looks like he is batting to survive!

The CA selectors should just create a FB survey/poll or something and let the public select the side :D
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