SA v TAS - Sheffield Shield @ Adelaide Oval 9/10-12/10

[Lightning McQueen]

We did get the raw end of the stick though in this game, it was warm and sunny when Tassie batted, first sign of rain and they declared then we had to bat in overcast conditions with some moisture in the pitch.
Not the reason for the loss but we didn't need any handicap's along the way, hopefully something goes right at some stage throughout the season.

Good post LM
Had SA won the toss the result may have differed

Joke thread!!!

At no stage did I write that we would've won, just didn't need anything else to go against us.

[Lightning McQueen]

So the same set of players have the talent to win a ODD competition, but can not get within an innings of any side in the SS... You think it is purely the players and not the way they go about it and approach their game?

FFS they are all pathetic and sub standard - the coach, the players, the admin...

Sure the weather didn't go our way but how long are people going to keep making up excuses to warrant the p!ss poor performance of this side week in week out! I've had enough... time for action!

Yeah, lack the mental capacity and patience to execute plans in the longer form, batting for 100+ overs and waiting on the scoring opportunities versus only having to last 45 overs and create scoring opportunities are worlds apart IMO.

[overloaded]

plenty of excuses.... like there has been the last 3 seasons. getting a bit tired of them!

whats Chuck going to say today?

[Ecky]

we have now lost 9 out of our last 10 games outright

We are not just losing them we are getting deadset flogged!

Tas 3/403
SA 20/373

This is NOT good enough... not even in the same ball park as these sides... Surely the coach of this side has to hold some responsiblity over the teams performances!

I have never seen a coach take wickets or make runs. Its the players

Why do we have a coach then?

My view is that while the ability of our players is probably the lowest out of the state teams, we shouldn't be that bad that we haven't scored a single point in the Shield in over a year, and have been flogged in so many of those games. I don't have the stats (Brod?) but I presume our 4-day batting average is quite a lot less than our 1-day batting average over the past year. There is no way a team should be averaging less in a format without any Over restrictions, so this indicates a large component of it is mental. In which case it is up to the coaches to create an environment where confidence exists.

[Ecky]

So the same set of players have the talent to win a ODD competition, but can not get within an innings of any side in the SS... You think it is purely the players and not the way they go about it and approach their game?

FFS they are all pathetic and sub standard - the coach, the players, the admin...

Sure the weather didn't go our way but how long are people going to keep making up excuses to warrant the p!ss poor performance of this side week in week out! I've had enough... time for action!

Yeah, lack the mental capacity and patience to execute plans in the longer form, batting for 100+ overs and waiting on the scoring opportunities versus only having to last 45 overs and create scoring opportunities are worlds apart IMO.

So maybe they should bat like there are only 50 overs then, at least we might score 250 sometimes. (We haven't reached 250 in the first innings of a Shield game since November last year)

[Lightning McQueen]

So the same set of players have the talent to win a ODD competition, but can not get within an innings of any side in the SS... You think it is purely the players and not the way they go about it and approach their game?

FFS they are all pathetic and sub standard - the coach, the players, the admin...

Sure the weather didn't go our way but how long are people going to keep making up excuses to warrant the p!ss poor performance of this side week in week out! I've had enough... time for action!

Yeah, lack the mental capacity and patience to execute plans in the longer form, batting for 100+ overs and waiting on the scoring opportunities versus only having to last 45 overs and create scoring opportunities are worlds apart IMO.

So maybe they should bat like there are only 50 overs then, at least we might score 250 sometimes. (We haven't reached 250 in the first innings of a Shield game since November last year)

Good point.

[Johno6]

i said that a few pages back they should treat them like ODD or T20, cant do any worse
and the games go for about that long for them anyway

[Rik E Boy]

we have now lost 9 out of our last 10 games outright

We are not just losing them we are getting deadset flogged!

Tas 3/403
SA 20/373

This is NOT good enough... not even in the same ball park as these sides... Surely the coach of this side has to hold some responsiblity over the teams performances!

Bloody hell that IS a flogging!

regards,

REB

[scoob]

i said that a few pages back they should treat them like ODD or T20, cant do any worse
and the games go for about that long for them anyway

Will no doubt have better results then what is currently being served up, but you can't seriously think that is the way forward?

I would think a mentor or even a coach ( ) that instills a mental discipline that sees our players concentrate and apply themselves for long periods as well as a never say die attitude would be a decent start. Talent or no talent if you are good enough to play at that level you shouldnt consistantly collapse like the Jellybacks do - and I believe that is as much the coaches fault as the players.

F@#k off Chuck!!!!

[stampy]

plenty of excuses.... like there has been the last 3 seasons. getting a bit tired of them!

whats Chuck going to say today?

probs you to get ******!!!!

[shoe boy]

We did get the raw end of the stick though in this game, it was warm and sunny when Tassie batted, first sign of rain and they declared then we had to bat in overcast conditions with some moisture in the pitch.
Not the reason for the loss but we didn't need any handicap's along the way, hopefully something goes right at some stage throughout the season.

Did we have no luck against QLD??

[Lightning McQueen]

We did get the raw end of the stick though in this game, it was warm and sunny when Tassie batted, first sign of rain and they declared then we had to bat in overcast conditions with some moisture in the pitch.
Not the reason for the loss but we didn't need any handicap's along the way, hopefully something goes right at some stage throughout the season.

Did we have no luck against QLD??

I don't know, we did get beaten, we had our chances and let them slip, at least there were some signs of hope.

[test]

They're just finished training on the oval, all 4 of them, when you finish a game 6 hours early surely there's some harsh work to be done?? They should be running 400's.... Hitting half pace balls to 2 fielders all afternoon isn't gonna change anything!! Need some boot camp. FFS

[overloaded]

WAP

[Jim05]

Its always the pitches fault, bad weather or bad luck that costs them games. What cop out, sick of their excuses.
Truth is it wouldnt matter if they played on hardwicket indoors they would still get beaten most weeks. Just a crap side, not up to standard

[heater31]

Its always the pitches fault, bad weather or bad luck that costs them games. What cop out, sick of their excuses.
Truth is it wouldnt matter if they played on hardwicket indoors they would still get beaten most weeks. Just a crap side, not up to standard

The way they play we need everything in our favor, going back to the Queensland game apparently we had Cutting caught & bowled not given when he was on stuff all. Umpire gave it not out without using any technology. As we know had it gone our way the result might have been different. Same with this game lost the toss and had to bowl on King William rd.


Last year majority of catches in the slips were low and diving fieldsmen couldn't get them to stick.


How about some luck FFS!

[Jim05]

Its always the pitches fault, bad weather or bad luck that costs them games. What cop out, sick of their excuses.
Truth is it wouldnt matter if they played on hardwicket indoors they would still get beaten most weeks. Just a crap side, not up to standard

The way they play we need everything in our favor, going back to the Queensland game apparently we had Cutting caught & bowled not given when he was on stuff all. Umpire gave it not out without using any technology. As we know had it gone our way the result might have been different. Same with this game lost the toss and had to bowl on King William rd.


Last year majority of catches in the slips were low and diving fieldsmen couldn't get them to stick.


How about some luck FFS![/quote]
Good teams make their own luck.
No guarantee we would have gone any better if we had batted first this game

[brod]

Tas 3/403
SA 20/373

Not just the score but look at the overs faced by both teams

Tas 112 overs...3 wickets
SA 118.4 overs....20 wickets (and 28 of those were for the 9th wicket in the 1st Inn)

[therisingblues]

South Australia vs Tasmania

Adelaide Oval
9 October 2012 -
Tasmania won by an innings and 30 runs
South Australia
224 & 149
Tasmania
3/403 dec

Tasmania - 1st Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Ed Cowan lbw J.Botha 35 78 4 0 0 44.87
Mark Cosgrove run out (C.Ferguson) 104 214 14 1 0 48.6
Alex Doolan lbw G.Putland 149 226 23 2 0 65.93
Ricky Ponting not out 85 126 5 7 0 67.46
Aiden Blizzard not out 16 29 2 0 0 55.17
Tim Paine
James Faulkner
Luke Butterworth
Jason Krejza
Jackson Bird
Adam Maher
Extras: 14 b: 5, lb: 7, w:1, nb: 1
Total: 3/403 dec (Overs 112)

Fall of Wickets
1/66 Ed Cowan (35) (Mark Cosgrove)
2/232 Mark Cosgrove (104) (Alex Doolan)
3/373 Alex Doolan (149) (Ricky Ponting)

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Gary Putland 23.1 / 2 / 81 / 1 / 3.50
Chadd Sayers 22 / 9 / 53 / 0 / 2.41
Daniel Christian 18 / 4 / 64 / 0 / 3.56
Nathan Lyon 30.5 / 9 / 97 / 0 / 3.15
Johan Botha 15 / 2 / 63 / 1 / 4.20
Sam Miller 3 / 0 / 33 / 0 / 11.00

South Australia - 1st Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Sam Miller c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 23 63 3 0 0 36.51
Phillip Hughes c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 3 3 0 0 0 100
Tom Cooper lbw L.Butterworth 0 3 0 0 0 0
Callum Ferguson c T.Paine b J.Faulkner 48 73 10 0 0 65.75
Travis Head c T.Paine b L.Butterworth 4 11 1 0 0 36.36
Daniel Christian c sub b J.Faulkner 4 5 1 0 0 80
Johan Botha lbw L.Butterworth 0 4 0 0 0 0
Tim Ludeman lbw J.Krejza 85 126 12 1 0 67.46
Nathan Lyon c A.Doolan b L.Butterworth 11 30 1 0 0 36.67
Chadd Sayers not out 38 78 4 0 0 48.72
Gary Putland lbw J.Krejza 4 10 1 0 0 40
Extras: 4 b: 0, lb: 0, w:0, nb: 4
Total: 224 (Overs 67)

Fall of Wickets
1/9 Phillip Hughes (3) (Sam Miller)
2/9 Tom Cooper (0) (Sam Miller)
3/74 Sam Miller (23) (Callum Ferguson)
4/78 Callum Ferguson (48) (Travis Head)
5/82 Daniel Christian (4) (Travis Head)
6/82 Travis Head (4) (Johan Botha)
7/84 Johan Botha (0) (Tim Ludeman)
8/111 Nathan Lyon (11) (Tim Ludeman)
9/218 Tim Ludeman (85) (Chadd Sayers)
10/224 Gary Putland (4) (Chadd Sayers)

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Luke Butterworth 21 / 8 / 49 / 6 / 2.33
Jackson Bird 15 / 5 / 51 / 0 / 3.40
Adam Maher 9 / 0 / 41 / 0 / 4.56
Mark Cosgrove 5 / 1 / 17 / 0 / 3.40
James Faulkner / 12 / 1 / 41 / 2 / 3.42
Jason Krejza 5 / 0 / 25 / 2 / 5.00

South Australia - 2nd Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Sam Miller c R.Ponting b J.Bird 1 7 0 0 0 14.29
Phillip Hughes c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 37 66 4 0 0 56.06
Tom Cooper c T.Paine b J.Bird 14 32 3 0 0 43.75
Callum Ferguson c T.Paine b J.Faulkner 22 42 2 0 0 52.38
Travis Head c L.Butterworth b M.Cosgrove 4 32 0 0 0 12.5
Daniel Christian lbw L.Butterworth 14 53 2 0 0 26.42
Johan Botha c J.Krejza b L.Butterworth 5 18 0 0 0 27.78
Tim Ludeman c and b J.Bird 19 24 3 0 0 79.17
Nathan Lyon c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 0 1 0 0 0 0
Chadd Sayers c J.Faulkner b A.Maher 17 25 2 0 0 68
Gary Putland not out 7 11 1 0 0 63.64
Extras: 9 b: 0, lb: 8, w:0, nb: 1
Total: (Overs 51.4)

Fall of Wickets
1/3 Sam Miller (1) (Phillip Hughes)
2/37 Tom Cooper (14) (Phillip Hughes)
3/80 Callum Ferguson (22) (Phillip Hughes)
4/80 Phillip Hughes (37) (Travis Head)
5/95 Travis Head (4) (Daniel Christian)
6/103 Johan Botha (5) (Daniel Christian)
7/110 Daniel Christian (14) (Tim Ludeman)
8/110 Nathan Lyon (0) (Tim Ludeman)
9/130 Tim Ludeman (19) (Chadd Sayers)
10/149 Chadd Sayers (17) (Gary Putland)

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Luke Butterworth 20 / 7 / 40 / 4 / 2.00
Jackson Bird 16 / 1 / 53 / 3 / 3.31
Adam Maher 3.4 / 0 / 16 / 1 / 4.36
Jason Krejza 3 / 0 / 12 / 0 / 4.00
James Faulkner 6 / 2 / 18 / 1 / 3.00
Mark Cosgrove 3 / 2 / 2 / 1 / 0.67

[therisingblues]

South Australia vs Tasmania
Adelaide Oval
9 October 2012 -

Tasmania won by an innings and 30 runs
South Australia
224 & 149
Tasmania
3/403 dec

Tasmania - 1st Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Ed Cowan lbw J.Botha 35 78 4 0 0 44.87
Mark Cosgrove run out (C.Ferguson) 104 214 14 1 0 48.6
Alex Doolan lbw G.Putland 149 226 23 2 0 65.93
Ricky Ponting not out 85 126 5 7 0 67.46
Aiden Blizzard not out 16 29 2 0 0 55.17
Tim Paine
James Faulkner
Luke Butterworth
Jason Krejza
Jackson Bird
Adam Maher
Extras: 14 b: 5, lb: 7, w:1, nb: 1
Total: 3/403 dec (Overs 112)

Fall of Wickets
1/66 Ed Cowan (35) (Mark Cosgrove)
2/232 Mark Cosgrove (104) (Alex Doolan)
3/373 Alex Doolan (149) (Ricky Ponting) d

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Gary Putland 23.1 / 2 / 81 / 1 / 3.50
Chadd Sayers 22 / 9 / 53 / 0 / 2.41
Daniel Christian 18 / 4 / 64 / 0 / 3.56
Nathan Lyon 30.5 / 9 / 97 / 0 / 3.15
Johan Botha 15 / 2 / 63 / 1 / 4.20
Sam Miller 3 / 0 / 33 / 0 / 11.00

South Australia - 1st Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Sam Miller c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 23 63 3 0 0 36.51
Phillip Hughes c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 3 3 0 0 0 100
Tom Cooper lbw L.Butterworth 0 3 0 0 0 0
Callum Ferguson c T.Paine b J.Faulkner 48 73 10 0 0 65.75
Travis Head c T.Paine b L.Butterworth 4 11 1 0 0 36.36
Daniel Christian c sub b J.Faulkner 4 5 1 0 0 80
Johan Botha lbw L.Butterworth 0 4 0 0 0 0
Tim Ludeman lbw J.Krejza 85 126 12 1 0 67.46
Nathan Lyon c A.Doolan b L.Butterworth 11 30 1 0 0 36.67
Chadd Sayers not out 38 78 4 0 0 48.72
Gary Putland lbw J.Krejza 4 10 1 0 0 40
Extras: 4 b: 0, lb: 0, w:0, nb: 4
Total: 224 (Overs 67)

Fall of Wickets
1/9 Phillip Hughes (3) (Sam Miller)
2/9 Tom Cooper (0) (Sam Miller)
3/74 Sam Miller (23) (Callum Ferguson)
4/78 Callum Ferguson (48) (Travis Head)
5/82 Daniel Christian (4) (Travis Head)
6/82 Travis Head (4) (Johan Botha)
7/84 Johan Botha (0) (Tim Ludeman)
8/111 Nathan Lyon (11) (Tim Ludeman)
9/218 Tim Ludeman (85) (Chadd Sayers)
10/224 Gary Putland (4) (Chadd Sayers)

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Luke Butterworth 21 / 8 / 49 / 6 / 2.33
Jackson Bird 15 / 5 / 51 / 0 / 3.40
Adam Maher 9 / 0 / 41 / 0 / 4.56
Mark Cosgrove 5 / 1 / 17 / 0 / 3.40
James Faulkner / 12 / 1 / 41 / 2 / 3.42
Jason Krejza 5 / 0 / 25 / 2 / 5.00

South Australia - 2nd Innings
Batsman Runs Balls 4s 6s SS SR
Sam Miller c R.Ponting b J.Bird 1 7 0 0 0 14.29
Phillip Hughes c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 37 66 4 0 0 56.06
Tom Cooper c T.Paine b J.Bird 14 32 3 0 0 43.75
Callum Ferguson c T.Paine b J.Faulkner 22 42 2 0 0 52.38
Travis Head c L.Butterworth b M.Cosgrove 4 32 0 0 0 12.5
Daniel Christian lbw L.Butterworth 14 53 2 0 0 26.42
Johan Botha c J.Krejza b L.Butterworth 5 18 0 0 0 27.78
Tim Ludeman c and b J.Bird 19 24 3 0 0 79.17
Nathan Lyon c R.Ponting b L.Butterworth 0 1 0 0 0 0
Chadd Sayers c J.Faulkner b A.Maher 17 25 2 0 0 68
Gary Putland not out 7 11 1 0 0 63.64
Extras: 9 b: 0, lb: 8, w:0, nb: 1
Total: (Overs 51.4)

Fall of Wickets
1/3 Sam Miller (1) (Phillip Hughes)
2/37 Tom Cooper (14) (Phillip Hughes)
3/80 Callum Ferguson (22) (Phillip Hughes)
4/80 Phillip Hughes (37) (Travis Head)
5/95 Travis Head (4) (Daniel Christian)
6/103 Johan Botha (5) (Daniel Christian)
7/110 Daniel Christian (14) (Tim Ludeman)
8/110 Nathan Lyon (0) (Tim Ludeman)
9/130 Tim Ludeman (19) (Chadd Sayers)
10/149 Chadd Sayers (17) (Gary Putland)

Bowler Overs Maidens Runs Wickets Econ
Luke Butterworth 20 / 7 / 40 / 4 / 2.00
Jackson Bird 16 / 1 / 53 / 3 / 3.31
Adam Maher 3.4 / 0 / 16 / 1 / 4.36
Jason Krejza 3 / 0 / 12 / 0 / 4.00
James Faulkner 6 / 2 / 18 / 1 / 3.00
Mark Cosgrove 3 / 2 / 2 / 1 / 0.67